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2HUNGRY!
05-01-2007, 02:08 PM
Okay, I am holding my breath and posting this! This thread is for those TTC 6 months or more or those with known fertility issues.

Should we do stats? I'm 29, off the pill since July 2005, really trying since March 2005, diagnosed with PCOS in April 2005. I am finishing up my 2nd round of clomid (100 mg). Neither round has worked so I am waiting for my Dr's appointment on Tuesday to see what is next. I am currently taking prometrium to bring on a period.

Now, somebody respond to this thread so I am not hanging out all by myself!

cangoss
05-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Me: Candace 33
DH: almost 39
off the pill since December 2005
Prometrium and Clomid summer 2006
Diagnosed with PCOS and put on Metformin in November 2006

currently: will be trying OPK this month; assuming that doesn't work I'll have an HSG next month and if that doesn't show any problems I'll start on Femara.

DH just had his SA - the part that they do at the clinic came back "above average" - the other part will take 3 weeks to get results.

I've gotten over my "blues" of AF arriving. I'm trying to be positive!

mst
05-01-2007, 09:59 PM
I am not mentally ready to be a member of this thread, but I will join to cheer you all on!

((Delanl)) Sorry to hear about what is going on with you. It sounds to me like an early miscarriage. Glad to hear that your husband is supporting you. I am sure this is tough on both of you.

Candace- interesting about the SA. I think my clinic only does the advanced one. That's great if your DH is above average. At least that is one less thing to worry about. If it makes you feel less alone, I still get sad every time AF comes.

2HUNGRY!
05-02-2007, 12:34 PM
Candace -- Horray for your husband! Above average, I'm impressed :) Let us know how the femera works. I have read that it doesn't have the same side effects or lining issues as clomid.

Hi mst! I think you are the head TTC cheerleader of this board!

Delanl -- I wanted to post here too how sorry I am . I really sorry you had to go through that at work of all places.

As for me I had a full out crying fit in CVS yesterday when I saw the Mother's Day cards. I went home, yelled at the DH and then locked myself in the bedroom that will be our nursery and cried for two hours. Then I was fine and watched ESPN sportscenter. That's right, I'm on prometrium again. One more night and I'll be done thank goodness.

My Dr's appointment moved from tomorrow to next Monday. I am dissapointed but what can you do?

I wanted to ask: what have you all told your work? I am so unsure about what to do. They must wonder why I am always at the Dr. I almost told my boss today (male) while we were at lunch but chickened out. I have the feeling that once I tell all of the good raises and promotions that had come my way in years past will be over. I kind of feel that if I can't have a baby at least I can have a good job. I hope some post TTC vetrans will chime in too.

cangoss
05-02-2007, 05:58 PM
I told my boss because I have to schedule travel around more important schedules! She asked last week if I could go to LA this week and I told her that would be great timing if for no other reason than DH is in Greece. So I'm currently poolside in LA.

SusanPC
05-03-2007, 12:17 PM
If you have a minute will you follow the link and fill out the form to send a letter to your local rep in the House. They are considering a bill that would mandate infertility coverage in most insurance plans. This took like 2 minutes to complete and they will send the letter via fax/email to your rep.


https://secure2.convio.net/res/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=112

bbpizzapro
05-04-2007, 08:16 AM
Good morning ladies.....

If we are doing stats...
3 preganancies in 3 years, 2 ectopics and 1 miscarriage.
I really hate when you go to the doctor and they say....ever had a pregnancies...how many children..?
Anyhow.
I am on day 8 of my stimulation injectables, and have produced 10 eggs. I am schedued for egg retrieval for ivf on either Monday or Tuesday. (then the embryos will be put in 3 days later)
The doctor will let me know Saturday when he measures them again.

I am so excited...I know this will work. I am kind of greedy..I decided I really want twins!

I had to tell my boss what I was going through...Started the conversation with how valuable my job is ...

Good thoughts to all

Bridget

ChristineB
05-04-2007, 08:17 AM
2Hungry, I just wanted to let you know that starting this thread was a terrific idea. There have been so many times that I use to read the other thread and wished to talk to others in the same boat who had been trying for a while. Eventually it became to hard for me to read and participate on the other thread.

My story is long but basically I have been doing IVF for a number of years with no success. I just completed another cycle a week ago and I am in the two week wait until my pregnancy test. This to me is the worst part! I hate the waiting and analyzing every twinge in your body.

Wanted to suggest a few things if you haven't checked out RESOLVE please do so. I actually host a Peer Led Support Group at my house which has been so helpful to me during this process. Getting to meet other people that know exactly what you are going through when sometimes you feel all alone can be a great support.

Make sure you treat yourself extra well during this time. Infertility can be so physically, psychologically, emotional & financially exhausting. So remember to do things you love to do or that make you feel happy. And don't be afraid to talk to a therapist, take care of yourself!

As far as what you say at work....be careful. Once you put information out there you can't take it back. I would be very vague and say that you are having some medical issues or procedures. It really isn't anyone's business. If you feel it is someone you need to confide in because you need their support in going through this process than that is fine. But in general I don't think work needs to know all of your personal medical business.

Holidays and baby showers are really difficult during this roller coaster of a ride. Give yourself permission to "opt out" if you feel you need to. I don't host or attend baby showers anymore b/c it is too difficult for me to talk about how cute and wonderful babies are for 3 hours knowing that I am trying so hard to have one and can't. Last mothers day I decided to honor my mother, grandmother and mother in law by having a brunch at my house. It kept me busy and kept me off focusing that I wasn't a mother. Rather celebrating the wonderful mother's in my life. I think you just have to protect yourself and do what makes you feel okay with celebrating the holiday.

I have a friend in my support group with PCOS that just got pregnant on her 3rd month of metformin so hang in there cangoss!

Okay I have rambled on enough. Hope you all are doing well!

ChristineB

SusanPC
05-04-2007, 09:07 AM
Christine: First off, good luck during your 2ww! I had no idea there were RESOLVE support groups in our areas. I get fliers in the mail each month but generally they seem to focus on adoption! That's great.

2Hungry: I told my boss because I wanted the flexibility when going through the process (the appts aren't bad at my clinic b/c they can mostly be done before work). But, when I was in my cycle one of the meds, Lupron, gave me crippling headaches and I had the support to work from home, etc. I also worked from home after ET/ER to keep stress down, etc. But, I didn't broadly advertise to my team what I was doing....they probably think I was dying there for a while!!!!

Also, you all are probably more than aware of this but I am going to plug it again b/c it has been a lifesaver for me (www.ivfconnections.com). When I started down the IVF path I found the woman so helpful with all of my questions, etc. I now have a good friend that I finally met in real life, as she and I were cycling at the same time and discovered we lived 10 minutes from each other.

For any situation you could be dealing with, there is someone around who has been there!

I really wish each of you the best!

2HUNGRY!
05-04-2007, 10:27 AM
Hi Christine -- Thanks for the tips. I am leaning towards saying something vague as you suggested. I work for a very small company owned by a very stingy man and I know they will take my possible maternity leave as an insult and a reason not to give me a bonus this summer. Good luck stayng sane on your 2WW. When do you test?

I think this thread was the idea of newcook, who I believe just posted that she is 14 weeks pg!

bbpizzapro -- I am totally counting on twins! I say I deserve double for all of my trouble. I know there is probably a twin mom out there who is shaking her head at me, but this may be my only shot! How are you feeling?

I took a personal day today because I had an a/c guy coming this morning and because I have been insane all week. I've spent most of the week sitting at my desk in tears reading infertility blogs. I need to get a grip!

Cangoss -- what meds are you doing this cycle? Femera and met? or just met in preperation for your HSG?

cangoss
05-04-2007, 10:39 AM
hungry, I understand why you wouldn't want to disclose info in that case. I work for a major state university, so it's a totally different environment. I hope your tears end soon - I think mine lasted a week last summer.

Right now I'm just on metformin. They won't start me on femara until I've had the HSG - so it will be June at the earliest. It is supposed to be much better than clomid in terms of side-effects and also negative effects on pregnancy. It only stays in your system for 40 hours, so it's gone by the time you ovulate. The clinic I'm working with doesn't use clomid anymore because of Femara.

I have had the same thoughts about twins - let's just get this all done in one shot! Especially because of the fact that I've now been off my rheumatoid arthritis drugs for a year and a half and I'm having joint damage issues.

mst
05-04-2007, 10:50 AM
Christine- I have my fingers crossed that this is the lucky cycle! Please feel free to share whatever you are feeling with us. I know it makes everyone feel less alone.

2Hungry. In general, I am an open book. Everyone IRL knows that we did IVF. However, I would really, really discourage telling at work. As a pregnant woman, people definitely judge whether or not you are going to return. It does affect things, and while people pretend that it doesn't- it does. As an HR person, I can promise you that barely any people returned to their job without trying for an alternate schedule or some other form of accomodation. Why add more time to the time that they are questioning your committment? Once I annouced my pregnancy, I told that it was IVF. Truthfully, having TTC changes you as a person. I am a very different person now that I have gone through this.

Candace- can I lay by the pool with you? Sounds so good...

Delanl- still thinking of you. Hope you are holding on ok.

Bridget- 10 eggs sound great! Keep growing them!

SusanPC
05-04-2007, 11:30 AM
2Hungry---Sounds like your work situation is much different than mine. I work for a large company and have been here 6 years. I 100% believe that my telling my boss was appreciated and will not affect my bonuses (in fact, I got a 50% bonus in Jan when they knew I was in the middle of fertility treatments). But, you have to do what is best for YOU and your situation! The last thing you need is to add more stress where it isn't needed!

cangoss
05-05-2007, 09:12 AM
I just found out that my sister-in-law, whom I absolutely adore and generally get along with better than my own sister, is pregnant by accident. She's now getting married May 16. I can't figure out if I'm bawling because I'm happy for her, I'm sad for me, I'm jealous, or I'm sad that I can't be at the wedding. I guess it's a combination of all of the above.

bbpizzapro
05-05-2007, 04:51 PM
It is so hard when you hear other people around you are getting pregnant without even a second thought.


I am scheduled tuesday for the withdrawl!!!
The doctor even said my lining was excellent!!
bb

mst
05-05-2007, 08:27 PM
Candace- I'm so sorry. That stinks. Both my sister and sister-in-law got pregnant while we were TTC. In fact, both of them had their babies before we were pregnant. Why can't you go to the wedding? Too soon to be able to make it? It's perfectly ok to be jealous of her, sad for you about the pregnancy, and sad about not making the wedding. How does SIL feel about being pregnant/quick wedding etc?

Bridget- Sounds like things are coming along nicely...

2HUNGRY!
05-06-2007, 05:07 AM
Candace -- I think what you are feeling is perfectly normal. Its hard to see your deepest desire happen so easily for someone when it doesn't for you. Take care of yourself.

BB -- Good luck!

cangoss
05-06-2007, 10:07 AM
I've gotten a grip on myself today. I realized that the news yesterday opened a floodgate of emotions that I was holding back, and they were bound to come out sometime.

The wedding is in San Francisco. She clearly doesn't want us to be there (or she wouldn't be getting married across the country with ten days' notice) and airfare is over $700. It just hurts to know she's getting married and I won't be there. My husband is in Greece right now and I had to tell him on the phone last night. He is really upset too.

Bridget - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and sending good vibes your way.

On a different note, did anyone else watch Grey's Anatomy last week and notice the absurdity of Addison's fertility testing? I was yelling at the TV that you can't just walk in and get your FSH tested - it has to be day three!

bbpizzapro
05-06-2007, 02:36 PM
Thanks guys for the nice thoughts....I need them.
I 'll keep you all posted..

bb

2HUNGRY!
05-07-2007, 01:37 PM
Hello from limbo land.

You may remember that I have been taking prometrium to end an unsucessful clomid cycle. I went to the RE today to discuss the next steps (clomid + met + a trigger shot on day 14ish in combination with a post coitial test, yay). The last step was to do an internal ultraound to check for cysts. Well, the dr saw "what might be an early pregnancy" so I had to do a blood test to see and the results will be in tomorrow. So, I really don't think I'm pg and its driving me crazy that it was even brought up (yes, I have taken millions of tests). I'm rational now but I know I won't sleep tonight and that tomorrow when I have to call to get the results I will be sad all over again for a failure of a cycle that I had already come to terms with. I was ready to move on to the next thing dang it.

I know I just have to get over it and that there will be much harder things to come, but I'm just so frustrated that I can't even fail a clomid cycle normally!

BB -- Good luck tomorrow. We'll be thinking of you.

Candace -- Sorry about the wedding. If you don't mind my asking, how pregnant is she? Is it to the point where she'll have to wear a bed sheet down the aisle if she doesn't get it done in the next 10 days?

bbpizzapro
05-07-2007, 01:44 PM
2hungry-
Is this your first ultrasound....?
I am really interested to hear what the blood test says.
Try and get some sleep tonight....I will try too...I am so excited about my retrieval.

How many clomid cycles have you been on?
bb

cangoss
05-07-2007, 01:45 PM
Hungry - so sorry to hear about your frustration. But let's keep small hopes that there really is something happening....



She is three weeks pregnant. Yes, three weeks. She saw the father for the first time in a year three weeks ago, and boom she was pregnant.

So no need to wear a bedsheet. But she is a "starving artist" and only has catastrophic health insurance, so she is getting married so she'll have insurance. She's 36, so she's technically high risk.

SusanPC
05-07-2007, 02:23 PM
BB--Just wanted you to know I am thinking of you tomorrow. I am sure it will all go great!

2Hungry--Hang in there....positive thoughts for you and your results tomorrow!

Cangoss--I am sorry the emotional toll from your SIL. I hope you are feeling better.

Hope you all are well. I have a mjor headache today....just watching the clock until it is a respectible hour to go home :rolleyes:

2HUNGRY!
05-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Hi all -- the beta was negative as I thought. Now I just wait for my period and then call on cd 1. Although she did say my progesterone was high meaning I ovulated (and this apparently had nothing to do with the prometrium I took). Weird. I wonder if it is possible to ovulate on prometrium because I'm pretty sure I didn't before I started taking it. Oh, and if I don't get my period in a week they'll re-do the beta. Let's hope it doesn't come to that! I hate blood work.

Candace -- Wow, only 3 weeks? I didn't even know you could find out that early. Has she been to the doctor and everything? I guess it would make sense to get the insurance, but sounds kind of scary if she hasn't seen him in a year.

Susan -- sorry about your headache. I hope you are feeling better today.

BB -- I'm thinking of you today. I hope everything goes well!

bbpizzapro
05-08-2007, 04:15 PM
Hi all....

I am back from the retrieval, still a bit woosy and I have some cramping. All went well, they got 11 eggs..
Tomorrow they will let me know how many fertilized.


Susan, hope your head is feeling better.

bb

SusanPC
05-08-2007, 05:32 PM
BB-Congrats! 11 eggs is awesome!!!! Rest up!

mst
05-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Bridget- Yay! Take good care of yourself. Have to be as good as you can be for the transfer. :)

Candace- I have to say- I am fascinated by this whole story. Is she marrying the father of the baby, or someone else? I am sorry for you and your DH. It's too bad you will be missing the wedding.:( I am a bit confused about the three weeks pregnant. Generally, you don't know until four weeks pregnant. Maybe your SIL is counting from her ovulation date, rather than the first day of AF?

2HUNGRY!
05-09-2007, 06:35 AM
BB -- Wow! 11 eggs is great! Congrats!

cangoss
05-09-2007, 07:49 AM
BB - that is great! I kept wondering about how it was going yesterday.
Hungry - sorry to hear about the negative beta, but at least you have an answer.


About the SIL situation - I think she is counting from the day of conception - since she only saw the guy for two days she knows when that happened. She hasn't been to a doctor yet since it is so early and she also doesn't have the insurance yet. She has very regular cycles so she tested a day after she missed her period.

Yes, she is marrying the father of the child, who she has been dating on and off since high school. I have convinced her to have a ketubah signing ceremony this summer so that we can have some sort of family gathering. They are now letting the two mothers go to the ceremony, so my MIL is flying out there Wednesday morning, going to city hall for the ceremony, and then flying back on the red eye Wednesday night. I can't believe how well my FIL is taking this. He is someone who wouldn't let DH and I sleep in the same room at the family's summer house until we were married (and we were living together at the time), and now he has to deal with his daughter getting pregnant before she is married.

I have gotten over my tears. I'm still not happy about the whole situation, and I know that as long as I'm not pregnant it will hurt to have her be pregnant, but looking on the bright side - hopefully something will work and I'll be pregnant within the next six months, and we'll have kids that are the same age growing up.

bbpizzapro
05-09-2007, 08:19 AM
Candace,

What a great idea about the Ketubah signing..
I think it is only natural in our circumstances feeling jealous of other peoples preganancies.
What I find so unusual is when I know someone who has been really trying like all of us I am filled with happiness for them.
My friends sister has 3 kids 5, 3 and almost 2,. When I found out she was preganant with her third I felt so much jealousy. I couldn't stop thinking how unfair things are.

Anyhow...
Let's hope we all will be fussing moms soon.
Later today I find out how many eggs fertilized. Think large quantities please!!!
bb

2HUNGRY!
05-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Candace -- I'm glad there will be some way for the family to get together.

BB-- Good luck! Let us know when you hear.

bbpizzapro
05-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Hi there!!

Well from my 11 eggs they were able to fertilize 10 !!!!!!!

I am so happy........
bb

2HUNGRY!
05-09-2007, 02:50 PM
BB!!!! That's great! How many will they transfer and on what day will that occur? Great news!

bbpizzapro
05-09-2007, 06:02 PM
Hi all.....
I called the doctors office and they will look at the embryos on Friday to decide which ones look the best...
At that time they will decide how many to put in. I think either 3 or 4....
bb

mst
05-09-2007, 06:48 PM
Bridget- Let your doctors advise you on how many to put in. When I did IVF, they only put one embryo back in (and I had many other good ones- I have seven frozen). Although multiple children sound great, it it a more high risk pregnancy. Follow your doctors advice, even though you might be ready to put all of those beauties back in!

Candace- I think the Ketubah signing is a great idea. We had a nice Ketubah ceremony, and we have our Ketubah hanging over our bed. It is very special to us. Sorry about the whole situation. It all really stinks.

bbpizzapro
05-09-2007, 10:06 PM
Dear mst,

Did your one embryo stick?
I am new to the ttc thread.
I am prepared to do whatever the dr says. He his the expert!
Thank you for your advice!!!!
bb

mst
05-10-2007, 10:10 AM
Bridget- Yes, my embryo did stick, and I have a beautiful little girl. I don't talk about her very much on this thread since I know how tough it can be when TTC. I have my fingers crossed for you!

bbpizzapro
05-10-2007, 10:43 AM
mst-

I truly hope I am as lucky as you!!
bb

2HUNGRY!
05-11-2007, 08:21 AM
BB -- Let us know what the Dr. says today.

Well, I started a new cycle today (CD 42, not bad for a PCOSer!). I talked to the nurse this morning and she will call in my prescriptions this afternoon. I am doing met + clomid this cycle. I am treating myself to a brownie today since I don't know how my stomach will do with the met! Also, they think I ovulated last cycle, right after I gave up on the OPKs and started on the prometrium. Go figure. I'm going back to temping this cycle since I found it way more stressful to not know last cycle. In my effort to make things stress free I actually made things more stressful for myself.

Christine -- If you are still reading, when's your beta?

Candace -- I'm glad your mood is improving. I think what you are feeling is totally normal.

bbpizzapro
05-11-2007, 08:38 AM
2hungry-

Good luck on this cycle. I agree that doing the least stressful is very important. How many cycles of clomid have you done?



I will be seeing the embryos they will be putting in today.....
I am really excited.
I'll be on bed rest for 3 days to help avoid a third ectopic preg...
I'll post when I can to let you all know how many they used!!


Christine!!
How are you feeling?
bb

cangoss
05-11-2007, 09:58 AM
bb- thinking "sticky" thoughts for your embryos - let us know how it goes!

hungry - I have found that with the met, I can get away with something like one brownie or one cookie, but bigger portions really upset my stomach. I've also found that things are better overall if I balance things out with lots of fiber - I've been upping my fiber intake quite a bit. I have lost about ten pounds since starting the drug, and I think that's as much because of having to be careful about what I eat to avoid stomach problems as it is because my body is processing sugars differently. I still have other PCOS symptoms though - my hair seems to be falling out of my head at alarming rates and growing like weeds in places like my chin where I don't want it:eek:

As for me - I'm at CD 12 and I'm going to start OPK's today. Last month I ovulated on day 15.

SusanPC
05-11-2007, 10:16 AM
Hi ladies, just checking in. I hope you don't mind my posting here as I still identify myself so much more with the TTC side of things than the pregnancy ladies.

Well, I had a 7w0d u/s yesterday and it wasn't very good. I had a sac measuring 18mm but at first, the RE couldn't find a fetus at all. He searched and searched with the wand and finally found a fetus measuring about 4.5mm. And, we saw a flickering heartbeat. I guess I should be farther along by now so I have to go back in on Wed for another u/s. RE gives us a 50/50 shot of this being a viable pregnancy. I was pretty crushed yesterday but today am doing a bit better. At home resting (I also had quite a bit of bleeding a couple of days ago, but thankfully that has tapered off and we could see the area in the uterus and it isn't near the sac, which he said is good news.)

BB--Great news about your fert! You should have some great embroys to choose from. For comparison, we had 6 eggs (my RE waits longer than most to get more mature eggs so the ER rate is lower than most clinics). Four fertilized and we transferred on Day 3 an 8 and 9 cell embryo. One made it to blast so we have one frostie!

cangoss- I am glad you are feeling better about the SIL and I think the ceremony sounds like a lovely idea.

2HUNGRY!
05-11-2007, 01:22 PM
I'm sorry to hear that Susan. I will think good thoughts for you and your family.

mst
05-11-2007, 08:10 PM
Susan- I think this is the most unfair thing ever. Seriously. I am so very sorry. If this pregnancy doesn't work out, I hope your frostie will. (())

bbpizzapro
05-12-2007, 09:33 AM
Susan....
I will be hoping good thoughts for you...

I am in bed through Monday
They put 4 in!

bb

wallingjan1
05-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Susan, I am delurking to wish you well. I'm not quite sure where to post either. I technically have been trying to conceive for over six months. I had one miscarriage and am now on my second pregnancy, only 5 1/2 weeks and I'm terrified and not very optimistic. I've never posted anywhere because I've either felt not pregnant enough for the pregnancy threads or guilty about posting on the trying to conceive boards because conceiving doesn't seem to be my problem. I have an ultrasound next week and am hoping to start having symptoms soon. They were much worse in my other pregnancies but I've never had a normal pregnancy so I'm not sure what it would feel like.

Good luck, Pam

valchemist
05-12-2007, 07:14 PM
Susan....
I will be hoping good thoughts for you...

I am in bed through Monday
They put 4 in!

bb

wow, bridget, that is great. can't wait to hear how things go. I have been glued to your story and am always looking for updates. best of luck.

susan, I am really thinking good thoughts for you. I will hope for some good news.

pam, same with you. I know how nervewracking the first few weeks can be. hang in there.

candace, good luck with this cycle. and also to you, Hungry. hoping all your patience and perserverence will pay off big time soon!

leigh, if you are out there... thinking of you, too.

Delanl
05-12-2007, 08:17 PM
Just popping in to say good luck bb and Pam!! And Susan I am so sorry you are going through this. I am thinking of you, hope all is well.

Thank you again everyone for thinking of me! I am doing a lot better, just trucking along waiting to see how my cycles will go.

All of you are always in my thoughts!

Leigh

2HUNGRY!
05-13-2007, 05:40 AM
wallingjan1 -- I totally understand you not wanting to post on the pregnancy or regular TTC thread. Good luck with the ultrasound and let us know how it goes.

Leigh -- Good to hear from you. Take care. I hope your cycles come back to normal quickly.

BB! -- How exciting! I can't wait to hear what happens!

Susan -- Wednesday must seem like an eternity. I'm thinking of you.

Candace -- Thanks for the tips on met. I started yesterday and did fine until I had a half a can of no sugar added fruit coctail after dinner and got really sick. Oh well, once I have my babies I'll have the rest of my life to eat fruit coctail! How are the OPKs going?

Well, its Mother's Day and I'm working from home. An emergency project came in on Friday which required work over the weekend so of course the one without kids had to take it (me). Oh well, next month is bonus time so hopefully it will be remembered.

Next weekend we have to drive to Ohio to see DH's skuzzy 40 y.o. cousin who had a baby girl with his 22 y.o. girlfriend. It wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't already had 2 girls who he has practically abandoned. Now we're supposed to go bring gifts and coo over this new baby as if he's done something he should be proud of. The poor baby. I hope I can hold it together.

But, in good news, every cycle towards the end of my period I have 1-2 days where all of my horrible PCOS bloating goes away and I fit into all of my clothes and my skin clears up. Today is the first of those days. Yay!

cangoss
05-13-2007, 10:07 AM
Susan - thinking good thoughts for you.
and Bridget - hope you're enjoying bedrest and that everything will go well.
Hungry - something like fruit cocktail has never given me a problem though I know everyone deals with drugs differently. I've actually had thoughts that I would like to stay on the met even after pregnancy - I'm hoping that a combination of met and the pill would totally keep the PCOS under control. But that's a ways down the road.

I got a positive OPK yesterday. I was in absolute shock as I've never peed on a stick and had anything come out positive:p And that seems to be right on schedule with when I expected it, so hopefully my body is getting into something resembling a regular schedule. If my temp drops tomorrow AM, then it will really be confirmed.

bbpizzapro
05-13-2007, 03:20 PM
Hungry-

Good luck next weekend!

Candace-
Congrats on the opk.


Tomorrow I am off bed rest butI will do an extra half day just incase.

bb

ChristineB
05-15-2007, 07:24 AM
Hi Ladies,

I had my first beta on Sunday 5/6 and it was positive (my first ever) but the number was low (38 and they want it to be between 50-100), so they were "cautiously optomistic." My 2nd beta on Wednesday went down, so it was most likely a chemical pregnancy. It has been really tough. Usually I am upset for a few days and then bouce back but I am having a hard time bouncing back from this one. I have an appt schedule with my doc to see what she thinks happened. Maybe that appointment will help me move forward. I have 3 more blasts frozen.

Sometimes I struggle with writing about my situation b/c I want other women that are starting the IVF process to be positive and optomistic. I hope I don't bring people down by posting negative results. I wish I had positive news to report! There are many women that this works for on the first try!

take care,
Christine

2HUNGRY!
05-15-2007, 07:28 AM
Christine -- I'm so sorry. Write all you want, that's what we're here for. Good luck at your next appointment and take care of yourself.

SusanPC
05-15-2007, 07:42 AM
Hi ladies--sorry I haven't posted in a few. It was a rough weekend. Today I am at home....terrible naseau and headache....I am wondering if it is the stress over tomorrow's u/s. Ugh, I just want to know. Anyway, thanks to all for all of the kind words--it does mean a lot.

Christine--I am so very sorry for your negative results. I hope your follow-up with the RE gives you some hope and confidence in a plan.

bb--I hope you continue to take care of yourself and your little beans!

2Hungry--Sorry you had to work over the weekend. Hopefully it will be someone else's turn next time!

Cangoss--Congrats on seeminly getting on schedule! Hope all goes well!

Pam--Hang in there. Your u/s is this week also, right? I will be thinking of you!

Leigh--I am glad to hear you are doing better....this journey can be the pitts, can't it?!?

bbpizzapro
05-15-2007, 08:07 AM
Christine,

I am so sorry! Take care of yourself.
I met a lady at the ART lab that told me she had a similiar situation.

Susan,

Hope your headache gets better!!!! I know that the stress is hard..

bb

2HUNGRY!
05-16-2007, 03:03 PM
Susan -- I am thinking of you today.

Week 1 on met has been an adventure, but it is getting better. I'm starting to feel a little more human today. I started clomid yesterday and the anger towards my co-workers started up right on schedule! I go in next week for an ultrasound/possible trigger shot and a post cotial (sp?) exam. Anyone ever had one of those?

cangoss
05-16-2007, 03:51 PM
Hungry - hang in there with the Clomid!
Susan - hoping you hear good news today
anyone else have updates?

I spoke a little too soon when I said I thought my body had gotten on schedule... my temp never dipped, but then it has been up for two days. So I think that I may have o'd on the day I thought I would, but fertilityfriend won't draw the magic line until I get a third higher temp.

I was at a Junior League meeting last night, and three different people at my table of 8 had gotten pregnant at the repro med clinic I go to, working with the same nurse practitioner who I'm seeing. That definitely made me feel more hopeful.

bbpizzapro
05-16-2007, 04:31 PM
hungry!!
I know the co worker anger....I had a melt down with a co worker today..


Susan!!!
Hoping good thoughts!!

Candace,
Must make you feel good to know others tht have been to the same place with success

I am waiting to test........I have breast tenderness but maybe that is from the progesterone shots...
I have been fortunate in having a pretty easy time with the meds so I really hope it worked and will get a postive test Tuesday.
I do take a progesterone level test Friday.
Luckily my doctor gets same day results for all these!!!
take care all
bb

wallingjan1
05-17-2007, 04:03 PM
I had my ultrasound today and we got to see a little heart flutter and hear the heartbeat! I'm still nervous, I lost my first at around 11 weeks (that was a twin, I have one daughter from that pregnancy) and my second at around 10. They dated this at just 6 weeks, so we won't be breaking the news to anyone but you for a while. But I'm much more optomistic now that I've seen the heart because my last one turned out to be a molar pregnancy so as soon as we saw the ultrasound we knew I wouldn't have gotten anywhere anyway. We're already way ahead of that game, this time I have a chance. I didn't realize how nervous I was until I burst into tears on the table. And my husband grinned for the first time this pregnancy.

I won't be jumping to the pregnancy thread yet, but I'm thinking optomistically.

Pam

bbpizzapro
05-17-2007, 04:08 PM
Pam!!!
Congrats on the ultra sound!!
Such great news...
bb

2HUNGRY!
05-17-2007, 04:12 PM
Great news Pam!! How exciting!

BB, I know how the progesterone can mess with your mind, but I hope your symptoms are real!

SusanPC
05-17-2007, 05:44 PM
Pam--What fabulous news!!! So happy for you.

BB--I am impressed you are not doing the HPT thing. I started at 10dp3dt (13DPO) and got my first positive. The RE actually moved up my beta b/c they said I was wasting too much money on the HPTs!

Me--Well, it wasn't meant to be. We did a high tech u/s at the hospital today and confirmed the fetus didn't grow anymore, no heart beat, etc. My RE was awesome, immediately called my OB/GYN and literally before I had a chance to call him they were calling me to come in today for a consult. So, unfortunately, I will be getting a D&C tomorrow. As you can imagine, my DH and I are pretty devestated.

We have a vacation to Australia planned for late June, so I think the earliest we would try round 2 would be late July/August.

Thanks for the support, it is appreciated.

2HUNGRY!
05-17-2007, 07:23 PM
Susan, I'm very very sorry to hear that. Take care.

bbpizzapro
05-18-2007, 08:03 AM
Susan,

I am so sorry....
Take care of yourself!
bb

cangoss
05-18-2007, 08:28 AM
Susan,
I'm thinking about you today. So sorry you're going through this.

Delanl
05-18-2007, 10:38 AM
Oh Susan, I am so very, very sorry. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

avariell
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
This thread has been very interesting for me since i was diagnosed with PCOS 8 years ago (it sounds like maybe many of you discovered you had PCOS while trying to get pregnant?). anyway, i am not yet to the point in my life where i want to have babies - but i know i want them eventually.
i have been on metformin since i was 16, along with a birth control pill (due to irregular periods). i started glucophage at 19 when i was officially diagnosed with PCOS. i am just curious - is glucophage something you have to stop taking when you are trying to conceive? or maybe it is just a side drug that doesn't impact fertility?

i think about my chances of becoming pregnant often and i wish you all the best.

cangoss
05-18-2007, 01:49 PM
Glucophage is the brand name for metformin. In my case, many doctors had suspected I had PCOS for years, but blood tests always came back negative. When I finally started going down the infertility path, they did an internal ultrasounds and that gave a conclusive diagnosis. I started on metformin that day and will stay on it through at least my first trimester of pregnancy. I'll decide later if I want to stay on it after pregnancy.

avariell
05-18-2007, 01:56 PM
Glucophage is the brand name for metformin. In my case, many doctors had suspected I had PCOS for years, but blood tests always came back negative. When I finally started going down the infertility path, they did an internal ultrasounds and that gave a conclusive diagnosis. I started on metformin that day and will stay on it through at least my first trimester of pregnancy. I'll decide later if I want to stay on it after pregnancy.

haha ok i obviously had the world's biggest brain f*rt.

i meant i have been on aldactone since i was 16 and glucophage since 19. i don't know why in my brain metformin magically became aldactone... weird.

i LOVE my endocrinologist - she is a wonderful woman. after awhile, my blood tests started coming back with really poor results - she asked what had changed. the only thing i could come up with that i was using metformin XR instead of my regular glucophage XR (my regular physician had written the script for me and didnt put "dispense as written on it). anyway (and i am sure everyone is different) my doctor flipped when she heard i was taking metformin and not glucophage. she feels very very strongly that metformin doesn't do the same good in PCOS patients. i have no idea why. i just figured i would pass it on in case anyone has problems... my tests went back to normal after going back to glucophage.

2HUNGRY!
05-18-2007, 01:56 PM
I think the norm is to stay on the metformin until the second trimester. Its good that you're already on metformin. In many PCOS cases it allows you to ovulate, which is a big step! If you're not on the pill now you could always take your temperature which will tell you if you're ovulating which might give you some peace of mind.

bbpizzapro
05-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Hello ladies,

Well I have officially hit my braking point...

I had bought a hpt awhile back from the 99 cents store...I planned on using it when I knew I was preg just to see if it really worked.
I can't even tell you how many twin packs I have bought for 15 bucks...

Well,
I decided to try it. (I am supposed to test at my docs office tomorrow)
Of course for the price it was no frills..
It came with a cup that looks like it should be filled with salad dressing from a take out restaurant, and a stick...
The instructions say read tests after 5 but before 10 minutes.
It must of taken me 15 minutes to understand this silly test. There was the faint line thing.
Now of course since it was past the correct read time I was unsure and went to the store and bought the kind with the words....pregnant or not pregnant.
It says pregnant.!!!!
Now here's my question.
On May 6th at 11:45 pm I had a shot of hgc to get my eggs ready for the retrieval. (May 8th retrieval and May 11th embryos put back)
Could testing 1 day early still give me a false pssitive and set me up for a huge let down??

bb

SusanPC
05-21-2007, 01:49 PM
BB--you are 13dt3dt (16DPO) from my calculations if I am reading your post correctly. Usually the HCG shot is out of your system within 7-10 days. So, I think it is safe to say you are pregnant. Especially since you didn't use an early detection test, it would seem to indicate that your HCG levels are probably fairly high. I'll bet you get an awesome beta tomorrow.

A great site (using DPO) to look at once you get your beta numbers is www.betabase.info which shows where your beta stacks up against others at the same "days past ovulation" in terms of single and multiples pregnancies.

An early congratulations to you!

bbpizzapro
05-21-2007, 02:00 PM
oops....maybe I should have mentioned the 99 cents store test can detect 25m ul....
the other test was the clearblue easy test 5 days early....
also 25 m ul

Susan, does that change your thoughts?
I am actually 13 days post retrieval, 10 days past putting them in!!

SusanPC
05-21-2007, 03:11 PM
I think it is for real. I got my first faint line on a First Response Early Detection on 7 days past a 3 day transfer. The main thing is that the HCG from the trigger is out of our system and I would venture to say it is this late in the game. Good luck tomorrow!!!!

2HUNGRY!
05-21-2007, 03:27 PM
BB -- I agree with Susan. I think you're pregnant! Congrats! I think 15 days is way too long for the HCG to stay in your system. How long does it take to get the beta results? I can't wait to hear what they are!

I am on CD 10 and my ovaries feel heavy (not painful, just heavy) and I have been spotting. I have no idea what this all means. Maybe clomid will work for me this time (3rd time's a charm)? Side effects this cycle haven't been too bad but the night sweats are strting to drive me insane.

Susan -- How are you doing?

bbpizzapro
05-21-2007, 03:36 PM
Hungry- the night sweats can be bad.....hopefully they will be done soon.
I have no idea about the spotting.

the beta will be back same day, I have to repeat the test on Thursday too!!
bb

SusanPC
05-21-2007, 04:13 PM
2Hungry--thanks. Physically, I am doing well. Feeling almost back to normal. Emotionally, I am sure it will take a while...I am ok and then will get really sad. Not fun times, but my Dh has been awesome and we will get through it. Thanks for asking.

Sorry to hear about the night sweats....don't you just love hormones! Sorry I don't have any clomid experience. Hang in there.

Susie

cangoss
05-21-2007, 06:55 PM
((Susan)) - it sounds like you're doing as well as you could.

Hungry - I had forgotten about Clomid night sweats. I think it was one of those things that I conveniently blocked from memory.

and bb - a tentative congratulations! Hope you have good news tomorrow.



My temps are all screwed up this month. They dropped below the coverline over the weekend. I think I cursed myself by saying that it looked like my body was finally getting into a regular pattern. Now I'm just biding my time until AF arrives (should be sometime next week) and I can schedule the HCG and then get started on Femara.

2HUNGRY!
05-22-2007, 06:46 AM
Are your temps back up? It could be the famed implantation dip.

bbpizzapro
05-22-2007, 07:09 PM
Candace,
Hopefully it is the implantation dip!!!!

I got my beta today 203.....
I am very happy with it!
I hope it doubles by Thursday!

bb

2HUNGRY!
05-23-2007, 04:27 AM
BB! Congrats! How long until you find out how many?

I go for my follicle check/post coital test in a few minutes. I'm kind of worried. I don't know why, I just am.

2HUNGRY!
05-23-2007, 06:59 AM
Well, I got good news and bad news:

The good:
- I had a 18.36 mm follicle and a 7.26 mm lining. It looks like the clomid/met combo has been good to me.
- I may ovulate at any second, but just in case I'll do a trigger tomorrow

The bad:
- My CM had killed about 1/2 of DH's "stuff". This may be a side effect of the clomid or it might just be that I have bad CM.

The ugly:
- The clamp that they used on my cervix. Ouch.

If this cycle doesn't work I'm looking at an IUI next cycle. Has anyone done an IUI? I know I sound like a wimp, but I just don't know if I'm ready for that yet.

waltnj
05-23-2007, 07:08 AM
Hi 2Hungry,

Just chiming in about the IUI (I had to do 3 before insurance would let me do IVF). They aren't bad. Certainly better than clipping the cervix. Maybe a little discomfort or minor cramping.

Good luck to all.

SusanPC
05-23-2007, 07:55 AM
BB--just wanted to say congratulations!!!! What an awesome 1st beta!! Will you do an u/s at 5-6 weeks? So exciting!

Candace--How are the temps?

2Hungry--Sorry, no experience with an IUI. Your follie looks good!!!!

Hope all are well. I am ok, taking it a day at a time.

cangoss
05-23-2007, 08:22 AM
bb and hungry - glad to hear about your progress.


I got all excited yesterday after you all mentioned the implantation dip, but then when I looked at it, I think the drop was too early for that to be the case (days 4,5,6). My temps have been back up the last couple of days, but they're usually over 98 at this point and they're hovering in the high 97s. So I'm pretty sure this cycle is screwed up. I am vowing to get religion about staying away from sugars again, because I know that makes a difference.

bbpizzapro
05-23-2007, 08:23 AM
Good morning!

Hungry, I never had IUI, I actually was going to start in February and then found out I was pregnant...(that was my second ectopic)

The day I went to have my embryos put back I said to my mother in law....I wish I did this last year..she told me that her friend said the same thing...(she never would have told me if I didn't say it first)
I truthfully was embarrassed and afraid that my body needed ivf. It took the doctor telling me without it I have little to no chance of getting a pregnancy in my uterus.

I know it is scary but, only you will know if you are ready!!


As for me, today I am 4 weeks 1 day....or 15dp
I get a second beta tomorrow and an ultrasound at 6 weeks...


bb

2HUNGRY!
05-24-2007, 11:47 AM
BB -- Did you have the 2nd beta yet?

Candace -- Too bad about your temps. I struggle with sugars too. Esp. this time of year when all I want is ice cream! Don't beat yourself up about it though. Are you still waiting for your HSG?

Thanks for the opinions on IUI. I think we're going to wait out the summer and then move on in the fall. This is my 1st cycle that I've actually been able to ovulate at any sort of normal time, so I think its too soon. Plus, I want to make sure my tubes are clear first. Also, the DH about freaked when he heard that I have to give myself a shot tonight, so we'll have to take baby steps I think :p ;)

Wish me luck tonight!

bbpizzapro
05-24-2007, 05:47 PM
Hungry, good luck with the shot!!

My beta came back 495.....
Seems my doubling time was 37.33 hours.
I hope it keeps going up....
I get an unltrasound in 2 weeks!!!

bb

mst
05-24-2007, 09:04 PM
Susan- How are you holding up?

Bridget- Yay! Keep doubling, you are doing great.

2Hungry- Oy, the shots. Not fun. At the beginnning of shots, we used to light candles, play soft music, etc. By the end I would scream, "hurry up! It is a commercial break!":p So, while it is never fun, the first one is the worst.

SusanPC
05-25-2007, 06:24 AM
2Hungry--I agree with MST. My first round of shots, my DH and I took like 45 minutes to set everything up and administer. The first IM shot, OMG I thought my DH was going to pass out....he was sweating it big time and I couldn't even look. By the end, we could do them in our sleep! Hang in there.

Bridget--Yay for the double. How many more betas do you do? My RE did them every two days until I hit 2000. It seemed a bit over the top!

MST--Thanks, I am hanging in there. I think the hardest part for me is that the last year of my life has been spent on IVF and related procedures for both me and my DH. So, this couple of month break I need to find things to focus on and keep my chin up. It is hard--I am having to remember what I like to "do" in my free time when I am not 100% focused on IVF. And, I am having terrible cramping from the D&C which I guess is normal (uterus going back to normal). So, all in all, I am doing ok. Each day seems a tiny bit easier than the previous. Thanks for asking.

Hope everyone has a wonderful Memorial Day weekend.

Chelle D
05-25-2007, 06:42 AM
Hello All. I have been following this thread and thinking about you all. Like Meredith, I am not ready to be here yet, but I am always praying for people with fertility issues.

Susan - I am so sorry. IVF is all consuming and it makes you into a different person. I think it's good to take a little time off to be you again, or as much as you can get back to who YOU are. I took about 5 months off between FET #1 and FET #2 and it really helped.

2Hungry - Another shot veteran here. Everyone is right. By the end you will be giving them to yourself in public bathrooms :eek: :p I lead an infertility support group and it is funny how fast the injections go from daunting to every day routine. Hang in there and it will get better. On the IUI, I have never had one (could not - no tubes after 2 ectopics and went straight to ivf), but I know so many women who have done them and say they are not bad.

2HUNGRY!
05-25-2007, 06:51 AM
Susan - Take care of yourself. It seems to add insult to injury that mcs cause so much physical pain along with the mental pain.

BB - Yay! That's exciting.

Hi MST. Still taking the summer off?

The shot went fine. I did it after the DH went to sleep because I knew it would just annoy me to have him hovering around (experience from when I have to cut the cat's claws). It was in my leg so I didn't need him. I almost cried tears of joy when I saw the peak on my fertility monitor this morning.

bbpizzapro
05-25-2007, 08:15 AM
Susan,
I am so sorry for all the physical and emotional pain you are feeling..


I am not scheduled for any more betas....
I kind of wish I was.
Did your estrogen and prog levels get tested as well???
bb

SusanPC
05-25-2007, 08:34 AM
BB--Yes, they did test my E2 and Prog levels a few times during the 2ww but not after the pos. beta. I think the E2 initially came down a bit and then started going back up. My Prog fluctuated. It was over 100 at one point and as low as 60 at some points. I think they say though that as long as it is over 10 things are ok.

Also, interestingly, I think the PIO shots show more prog in the blood vs. the suppositories...so your protocol may have more to do with what shows up on a blood test.

How are you feeling so far?

bbpizzapro
05-25-2007, 08:45 AM
Hi Susan..

I feel ok, I really am nervous...I want this so bad!

Here is my ivf numbers....

6 days post transfer est 700 ish, prog 77
11 days post transfer (14dpo) beta 203, est 911 prog 181
13 days post transfer ( 16dpo) beta 495...

When I had my last ectopic ( before they were sure) my prog level was around 13....my ob had wanted them over 20..
So I am in another wait..the wait for an ultrasound.
I wish they would do a beta next week to give me something sooner...
maybe I will ask!!
bb

2HUNGRY!
05-25-2007, 08:48 AM
BB -- I think you totally should ask. Given your history I don't think it would be unreasonable. A blood draw should be no big deal to them, I don't think.

SusanPC
05-25-2007, 09:37 AM
BB--I am certainly no expert but I was told your period wouldn't start with Prog over 10. So, you look good there. I agree though, just ask if you want another beta. You can probably pop in during monitoring hours, no big deal.

You could even ask for an u/s next week if you wanted one. At 5 weeks they can confirm the gestational sac is in the uterus...you can site the previous etopic as your concern. Hang in there....I know it is all so nervewracking!

mst
05-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Bridget- I can't wait to hear your update!

2Hungry- I am so amazed at people who do their own shots! Congratulations! I had better luck with shots in my belly. My one leg shot- yikes. And yes,I am still taking the summer off. I am a bridesmaid in September of a high school friend, and well, I want to look good! Also, my FIL is getting married in Sept too. But, then I think that I would rather have a spring baby than a summer one. I think I might go to the RE soon, just to see what tests I need to do, and get them out of the way. Trouble is that I am not quite ready. I don't want my kids too far apart in age, but I don't have a yearning for another child the way I did when TTC #1. Although, I just had the longest cycle ever (probably two months), and was so absolutely convinced I was pregnant. When I finally gave in and took my test, I took it at the drugstore because I could not wait. (And believe me, if I used a public bathroom- there was a GOOD reason!:p ) Anyway, I waited another week, was having huge problems with dizziness and heartburn, took another test, and got another negative. So, while I am not sure that I am ready, the thought of being pregnant was so fabulous to me. It still blows my mind to know that people actually get pregnant the traditional way. It makes me sad that I have missed that experience.

2HUNGRY!
05-29-2007, 04:42 AM
I know what you mean MST! I can't imagine having a baby the "old fashioned way". I always tell the DH that if we were 15 and on crack we'd be having no problems with this (no offense to any lurkers who are 15 and/or on crack)!

Does anyone know if its possible to not ovulate after the trigger shot? I took it Thu. night/ Fri morning at midnight and since then my temps have been doing a slow rise but no clear jump. I guess I should just give up on my temps since I have so many drugs in my system right now, but old habits die hard. Anyway, on Sat. I was walking around and my ovaries felt like they had run a marathon, so I guess I'll take that as good news.

I have been trating myself to raw cheese and lunch meats lately as a consolation prize. Today we're going to take a drive up to Pennsylvania and hopefully find an Amish cheese factory. Yum!

bbpizzapro
05-29-2007, 07:49 AM
I agree with crack theory.....
When I was 16 I was pregnanat and had an abortion.
Until the last year or so I never regretted it.
At one point last year I wondered if it was my only chance and I had given it up.

Hungry, you deserve to treat yourself...

As for me, I am still very nervous.
I am 5 weeks today, I wish I was sick it would make me feel more confident. From what I read some people don't get it for a bit still.

Also my breasts only are tender sometimes...the doctor said its normal...

My husband thinks I am obsessed and he is right!

bb

cangoss
05-29-2007, 07:52 AM
I have been trating myself to raw cheese and lunch meats lately as a consolation prize. Today we're going to take a drive up to Pennsylvania and hopefully find an Amish cheese factory. Yum!

I had to LOL at this. We have a goat farm nearby that makes the most wonderful goat cheese, which is unpasteurized. I keep thinking that one good thing about not being pregnant is that I still get to eat goat cheese:D



(and for my update, temps have been down for a couple of days and I had spotting this morning, so I'm on to the next round - I need to call the repro med office to see about scheduling the HSG - it looks like day five will be Saturday or Sunday so I'm not sure what they do about that).

KristinK
05-29-2007, 04:28 PM
I'll admit that I lurk here from time to time, just to see if I can offer any advice or personal experience. This time, I wanted to jump in to share my experience with IUI for 2Hungry and anyone else interested. We ended up doing two, starting with my first medicated cycle. My RE said we might as well give ourselves the best possible chance of getting pregnant so we didn't waste any medicated cycles.

I brought DH's sample from home; it had to be done within an hour before my appointment. Once the nurse did the sperm washing, though, there wasn't any rush. They put the specimen in a catheter, which was slightly painful when inserted, like a short, intense cramping sensation. (I think I have a sensitive cervix or something; the HSG was so painful for me that I was nearly in tears.) I was then told to lie down in the room for 10 minutes afterwards. After that, I just got up and left. I didn't experience any cramping afterwards, although in the evening after our second (successful) IUI, I did feel what I suppose were ovulation pains.

2Hungry, if you do in fact have hostile CM, an IUI would be worth a try sooner than later because it allows the sperm to completely bypass the cervix for a straight shot into the uterus. I'll admit that I had some hesitation about it at first, but in the end, I don't know that we would have had the same results so soon had we tried to do it the "old-fashioned way." ;) Still, it's a completely personal decision, and I wish you luck in whatever you choose to do.

And more luck to the rest of you, too. I may not be around these boards much these days, but you are all still in my thoughts. :)

Susan, I am so sorry for your loss. Many, many hugs to you and your husband.

Bridget, I am hoping you keep coming back with good news. As for m/s, I didn't feel any until my seventh week, but the breast tenderness is just as good a sign!

SusanPC
05-30-2007, 09:12 AM
BB--I wouldn't worry about the lack of symptoms. Think of it, it is so early the average "normal" person wouldn't even know they are pg yet. I think around week 7-8 is when people start feeling things--if even then.

Cangoss/2Hungry--I hear you on the cheese and deli meats. Blue Cheese and wine are my friends at the moment!!

2Hungry--Glad the shot went well. I did a lot of my subQ ones b/c DH travels a ton for work. But, the IM ones I can't do...I am a baby.

Me--I have a follow up with my OB/GYN tomorrow and then tomorrow night I have a first appt. for accupuncture. Anyone done it? I just read a book on Chinese Medicine and the treatment of infertility---it was written by a Western Medical DR that also studied Chinese Medicine and now has a fertility practice doing accu, herbs, etc. I am not into herbs but many woman swear by accupuncture. I am hoping it will help with my headaches from the meds when I cycle and to generally help me with my stress over the whole process. I meet with my RE again in two weeks.

Hope everyone has a great day!

2HUNGRY!
05-30-2007, 09:55 AM
Hi all

BB-- 5 weeks is still early, so I wouldn't worry about lack of signs yet. When's your next appointment?

Candace -- Sorry your temps stayed down. I am going to ask for a HSG next cycle too (assuming this one is a bust)

Kristin -- Thanks for the thoughts. My reserve as far as IUI goes is because I don't know if my tubes are clear and DH hasn't had the S/A done yet. Plus, my insurance won't pay for it until I've done a certain number of unmedicated cycles. It just seems too soon to jump into it when they couldn't give me a deffinate answer about my CM and I'd have to pay out of pocket. Thanks for your input though, it really does help. Glad to hear you're doing well!

Susan -- I did accupuncture once. I didn't like it but I think that was more b/c the woman blamed my PCOS on yogurt. Plus, she charged close to $75 per session and wanted me to come every week, and she didn't really want me to see my RE. That was a bit much for me. If you find someone good, let me know. I think we are in the same area. Is the book you read the Randine Lewis one? I read that one and liked it. I've read somewhere that the stats for IVF with accupuncture were good.

As for me, I'm haning in there. Its the blissful time during the 2 week wait when I can still tell myself that I won't examine every twinge and feeling!

SusanPC
05-30-2007, 11:06 AM
2Hungry--Yeah...it will be interesting to hear what she says. Our dx is male factor due to the failed vas reversal so I am not sure what she will do to help me...but since the last cycle I have been getting killer migraines. I am hoping this will help. My RE referred me to a woman over near the Tenley Town metro, but the one I am seeing tomorrow works out of VA Hospital Center and Ballston. I'll let you know how I like them....I think I am going to do a consult with both and see who I like better, if either of them!

Good luck on the 2ww.....how much longer?

bbpizzapro
05-30-2007, 04:08 PM
Susan, ggod luck with the accupuncture...

Candace, sorry about the temps.

Thank you all for giving me the courage to ask for another beta!
I have an ultraound scheduled for next Thursday...9 days of waiting..

bb

2HUNGRY!
05-30-2007, 05:45 PM
Susan -- Thanks. Mine was in Del Ray so its not the same as yours. I'm 3 DPO according to fertility friend.

BB -- So did you get the beta?

I just calculated what my due date would be: 2/18/2007. Hmmm, it would be a good excuse not to travel at Christmas at least.

bbpizzapro
05-30-2007, 06:40 PM
Hungry,

I would be so happy if you could stay home and be pregnant for Christmas.
My due date ia 1-29-08!
I did get the beta back, it was 4014....that is 21dpo.
The nurse said...you are still pregnant.

I am feeling some cramping but they say it is normal....
who really knows what normal is??

SusanPC
05-30-2007, 08:16 PM
BB--Awesome beta number! You are definately pregnant :D Your EDD is my birthday!!!! FWIW, I had pretty bad cramping for a while....when we did my u/s my RE showed me my ovaries....they were still pretty swollen even at 7 weeks from all of the stims. It could be something like that.

2Hungry--so exciting...I will be thinking good thoughts for you in this wait!

cangoss
05-31-2007, 09:44 AM
Hungry - good luck with the wait
BB- that sounds like great progress!


I went in this morning and had day three labs and an internal ultrasound done. The ultrasound showed a cyst on one ovary that may explain this month's low temperatures. My nurse practitioner is out on disability until July 1 so I had to meet with a different woman, who was not very helpful and made me very grateful that I'm assigned to someone else. I'm having the HSG tomorrow.

I wasn't at all upset/disappointed with this month's arrival of AF, since my temps stayed pretty low and the whole thing didn't look very hopeful. Not sure if that's good or bad. And DH is leaving to go out of town on the 17th, so I'm glad that AF arrived in time so that this month's ovulation should be before he leaves.

bbpizzapro
05-31-2007, 09:56 AM
Cangross,

I had a hsg done a couple of times....
When I called the office to make an appointment the receptionist told me to take a tylenol 24 hours before my appointment time...
I thought it sounded strange.
When I arrived the technician asked me if I took the tylenol, my response was yes, I took it yesterday.
She looked puzzled and then figured out that the receptionist miss read the paperwork.. It was supposed to be taken 2-4 hours before!!!
Oh well.

Did the nurse suggest anything to get rid of the cyst?

cangoss
05-31-2007, 10:01 AM
She said the cyst wasn't a big deal because it is fairly small and it should go away on its own.

They did tell me to take Advil about an hour before the test, and put me on antibiotics for three days.

Editing to add - the nurse just called and left a voicemail with my blood test results from this morning - my prolactin level is elevated, and it has been in the past (it went down for a little while). I'm suspecting it's time to worry about it. Anyone have experience with this?