September TTC Vets

[2HUNGRY!]

This thread is for those TTC 6 months or more or those who have known fertility issues.

Me: 30
DH: 33
Trying for 2 yrs 2 months with PCOS. Having my first IUI tomorrow.

Candace, thanks for the reminder to start a new thread. I'm so concerned about what CD it is, I didn't notice we have a new month! I'm glad that things went as well as could be expected with your SIL. Is this the one who got married quickly to a guy she wasn't really dating?

So, I have a topic of discussion for this month. When will you stop trying? How much is enough? This is something I have been thinking about a lot in the last few weeks and I would like to hear some other's though processes, if you're willing to share.

[cangoss]

Thanks for getting us started.

me: 33
DH: 39
Off the pill since Dec 05; diagnosed with PCOS November 2006; currently on hiatus due to hemhorragic ovarian cyst but hoping to be back in the game in a couple of weeks with a medicated(Femara)/monitored cycle.

To answer your question - I am nowhere near the point of giving up. I figure we at least have IUI and IVF before giving up. And we are very fortunate that both are covered by our insurance, so the cost isn't an issue. I'm very hopeful that the NP is right and femara will do the trick.

[mst]

Me:33
DH:37
Severe male factor. TTC with frozen IVF cycle.

2Hungry- As I am sure you know, it is a very personal decision. I know that I always knew that we would do whatever we had to do to have children. That included biological children, or adopted children. I also have the advantage of already having DD, so the urgency to have a child is much, much less than the first time around. I already am a mother, and that takes a lot of pressure off. I am concerned about the age difference between the kids, but someone is always willing to tell you why each age difference is wonderful. So, I am inspired to keep going. That being said, I really, really hate IF. I hate that I am so drugged up that I don't feel like myself. I hate that I am so sick all the time. I hate feeling like a patient. With my first IVF, when we got pg, it was such a shock to stop doing treatments. I really felt like something was really wrong with me medically. Always on a new medication, always reacting, always waiting for the nurses to call. We are having fights in my family over who is going to host Thanksgiving, and I feel like I can't commit to it because I could have a retrievel or transfer that day, or be on bedrest. Who knows? I feel like our lives are up in the air. I will keep plugging away for a while, but I certainly understand people who just need to stop. It is a terrible process. And, as I type this, I am dreading taking off my estrogen patches. Those bad boys hurt like crazy coming off. I am even using nail polish remover on my skin to try to get the adhesive off. The part that kills me, is that this could all be for nothing. All of these months of shots, and meds and I may not even be pregnant. I resent that I am sick for months before I even get pregnant. I went to my friend's wedding this weekend, and missed so much of it because I had to put in my stupid suppositiories, and then lie down for twenty minutes (and go to the hotel and back to the reception). The part that upset me the most was that I had to ask the bride if I there was a room that I could use. I really hated that on her special weekend, I had to ask her for help. So, thanks for letting me vent. I guess the conclusion is that you are in good company.:o

BTW- it is hard for me to talk about IF and my feelings, and not mention DD. If mentioning her upsets anyone, please PM me, and I will stop. I don't want to make anyone feel badly, but if it doesn't bother anyone, she is part of my whole experience.

[2HUNGRY!]

The IUI is done! It was fine but the DH almost passed out when he saw the cathater!

Candace and MST thanks for your thoughts. I will write more later. I am supposed to be working from home and am having a hard time getting to work (I wonder why???).

[SusanPC]

2Hungry---Yay, congrats you made it. So, do you go back in 2 weeks for a test?

[cangoss]

Hungry - thinking good thoughts for you.
When I think about what it took to get the catheter in for my HSG, the thought of IUI scares me... so glad to hear you survived it OK.

Meredith - it sounds like you're having a helluva time. Hang in there. And it doesn't bother me when you talk about Ilyssa.


Did any of you see this article in the NYTimes yesterday?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/04/health/04conv.html?ref=health

It was interesting - I know that I had heard this before, and I also know this is the theory for why some women get pregnant after they give up and decide to adopt. It's also why my infertility group has a therapist on staff. I only wish it could be so easy for me - just relax and it will happen.

[mst]

2Hungry- yay on the IUI. Glad it is done with. Did they tell you to try on your own also?

Candace- Thanks for the support. I had a crappy day today also, must have made more than 20 phone calls about my stupid meds. Grr. Still not sure what the outcome is going to be.

About the article. Hmm. I hate the "relax" argument. Seriously, relaxing isn't going to make DH's sperm count go up. I also am not a big fan of a study of only 16 women. But, I do believe that people can mess up their bodies with stress. When I was in college, I had the worst stomach issues. I flew home and went to doctors. Turned out is was all stress. But, I can truly tell you that it was so awful and painful.

My best friend came over tonight, and she looked at my belly and said that she thinks things are looking good. But, then she told me to not wear these shorts again!:p I am very bloated from all the meds though, so who knows?

[2HUNGRY!]

Interesting article. I have mixed feelings about it though. I hate it when people say "just relax and it will happen". If I had just relaxed I would have never have known about my PCOS or uterine polyp and I most likely would not have concieved. So, I think that its rotten that trained doctors would give people that advice for any medical condition when there could be in fact something wrong.

On the other hand, I do believe that there is a link between health and stress. I just don't think that someone in my position would be stressed every month for 2 years and that would cause them to not ovulate/conceive.

[Bawstinn]

Me: Maria, 37 (38 this month)
SO: David, 34
Male fertility issues due to a spinal cord injury last year.


Hi all.

Just sitting back and waiting for AF to arrive. I have a nasty cold, so haven't been temping since I am running a low fever.

I did receive a copy of TCOYF in the mail from Amazon yesterday, so I need to start reading.

At this point, I have not thought about when we would stop trying, since, technically, we haven't started trying yet. I guess if they determined IUI will not work for us, I would have to think long and hard about IVF. Even if money wasn't a consideration (infertility is not covered by our insurance), I don't know that I could take more stress (meds, shots, etc). David had asked me 'don't you think adding another baby would add stress'. I wouldn't say it would add stress, although it would make life a little more hectic, but in a good way. His doctor appointments are starting to get spaced out a lot more (every 4-6 months, rather than every 2 weeks) so we are settling into more of a routine.

Of course he announced over the weekend that if the first IUI didn't work, he just wanted it to all 'happen naturally'. I'm not sure where that came from or maybe if it is just frustration from the accident, and things not working like they did, but that doesn't mean things won't work eventually. It takes 18-24 months for you to get back all the fuctionality that you will after a spinal cord injury, and he is almost 10 months out. We were also told that is one of the last things to come back. Problem being, I'll be 38 at the end of the month and really don't want to wait 2 years to even start to try.

Sigh, I am thinking there is a little bit of male ego involved and I really wish he would talk to someone about things. The rehab hospital had him talking to a therapist and recommended that he see one at least through the 2 year 'recovery phase' but he won't. We do go back to Denver for a week at the end of October and I know we will speak to the same therapist again as part of the re-evaluation. Best chance is to bring it up there, I guess.

[kbs]

Me: 33
DH: 33

Off BCP for over two years (although not seriously trying for that long), known PCOS

I've been drifting in and out of these threads because my work life has been nuts, but because I think you all give great advice and support I'm really going to try to make a point to post more often. I think this is such a great place to share frustrations and fears. My college friends and I got together for a weekend a couple weeks ago and I was soooo afraid someone was going to ask me when we were going to have kids- i've generally been able to make some kind of joke like "whenever we're fit to be parents, so probably never" hahaha...but I was very afraid that if I got asked that question now I would just start crying. Clearly this isn't something I talk about with anyone other than DH.

Interesting article, although I agree with mst that a study based on only 16 subjects really isn't a large enough sample to make a compelling case. Certainly I can see stress being a factor that affects one's general health including ovulation, but it certainly women should not be made to assume if they are having problems conceiving that is the likely reason.

I'm not currently temping, but did get my very first positive OPK result yesterday (today is CD14). It was cause for celebration (which we did ;) ). So now I'm of course completely hopeful, but still trying to keep myself in check.

As far as how long will we keep trying- I'm just not sure. I don't know how far we would go either, medically speaking. At this point, I'm still just kind of hoping that it just happens. I'm not sure that we'd be able to go through the expense and emotions of IVF, but I suppose (or at least I hope) that we'll just know.

-Kim

[mst]

Maria- Sounds like a tough situation. Just so you know, IUI without meds is not great odds- not too different than the old-fashioned way. I assume in your case they would take a few of his donations, and make a supersonic IUI. The meds really help out the odds. You might want to talk to your RE about how David is feeling, and ask if there are things to do to up the odds. Are you seeing an RE or a urologist?

Kim- We're glad to have you here! We went to a wedding this weekend, and I knew that one of the other couples was going through IVF also (I knew this through the bride). So, one woman announces, "who still wants more kids?" The question fell like a dead weight. Plunk. No one answered. I later found out that the other IF couple is pregnant (not yet three months), and we are in process. I almost felt badly for the girl. The interesting thing was that the woman's husband mentioned that she had had a number of miscarriages, and she was livid with him for sharing. So, it turns out that most of us had infertility issues, but since no one was sharing, everyone thought they were alone. My DH says that I can sniff out IF like no one else. I know people are having issues right away. I think it is because I am really sensitive to it. We have SO many friends that we are the only friends that know they are going through IF. So, since you don't want to share in real life, come and let us support you!

[cangoss]

Kim - welcome to the group no one wants to join... but it is great to have a place where people speak your language. Are you doing anything to treat your PCOS? And do you know whether it's insulin-resistant or not?

Maria - I also have struggles with my DH. If it was up to him, we'd wait about five years until he had a well-established job before having kids. That's not an option as far as I'm concerned, and he knew that before we got married (we have an agreement for 2 kids by the time I'm 35 - but now we'll be lucky if we get one by then). He just doesn't have the same interest in the whole TTC thing that I do and that makes me sad sometimes. He's also going through a very rough patch - he quit his job in June and has been doing some contract work since then, so his personal stuff overshadows the TTC effort. Part of the reason I started seeing a therapist was because of that struggle.

Meredith - I know you said a while ago that you were being intentionally vague about the IVF round, but will you tell us anything now? Have you already had the implantation?

[mst]

Kim - welcome to the group no one wants to join...
This made me laugh! Well, at least we are a fun bunch!


(we have an agreement for 2 kids by the time I'm 35 - but now we'll be lucky if we get one by then).
Ahh, my friend. You are doing IF- you might have three kids by the time you are 35!:D

Yes, I am being intentionally vague still. I did have my transfer though. I just feel like if I am pregnant, I will feel better after my beta. Then, after my second beta. Then, once I know the baby is in the right place, then, once I see the heartbeat...I am a superstitious woman!

We are seeing friends tonight who have newborn twins through IVF. Anyway, she was saying how grateful she was because if it wasn't for their infertility, they wouldn't have *these* babies. I feel the same way about Ilyssa. I know that I wouldn't know who I missed out on, but I am so grateful to have this particular child.

Candace- I don't think the guys are ever as into it as the women. I think when it is our bodies, it is just a bigger deal. And, I think parenting as a mother is different than parenting as a father. I still think there are some gender differences. I think it is great that you are seeing a therapist. I have my Master's in Social Work, and when I go back to work (hopefully not soon!), I would love to do therapy with people going through IF.

[cangoss]

Meredith - now I can think sticky thoughts for you (remember I'm the cheerleader this month). I really hope that all of the meds and drama give you a good result.

Anyone else have updates?

I had two appointments this morning - first with the non-nutritionist where I had good results, and my total is 5.5 pounds for the month I've been seeing her. I'm planning on rewarding myself with a pink elephant Vera Bradley bag when I get to 10 pounds total, so I have good motivation. I've been looking at those bags for a year but it's definitely not something I need and it's a splurge, so it's a good reward.

I also saw the therapist again. She had a couple of ideas that might be useful for others. First, she suggested that I come up with a mantra to tell myself when I'm feeling jealous, or having bad thoughts towards pregnant people or people with newborn babies. I have a start of a mantra, but she doesn't think it's "strong enough". So I'll have to work on that. Second, she said that something that has helped other patients with situations where you feel like you're surrounded by pregnant people (in my case, the Junior League meeting I have to go to next week), is to make a game of it. Count them, guess how many you'll see, rate their clothes, etc. I'm not sure about that one but I might give it a try - at least counting them, because I want to see if my estimate of 25 pregnant women out of 150 total is correct. The last suggestion, to deal with my problems of feeling bad about having bad feelings, was to try to turn bad thoughts around into good ones. Like with my sister-in-law, I can think of the fact that hopefully I will get pregnant soon, and we'll have kids who are about the same age and can grow up together. All of this is easier said than done but I'm going to at least try...

[mst]

Candace- it's great having a cheerleader! Your therapist sounds great. A little unrealistic for me :p , but great. Even when I am not TTC, I am jealous of pregnant women.

I am so jealous of your 5.5lbs! That will be so great if you can be in even bettter shape when you get pregnant. I just joined a gym so that I can be better about working out while pregnant. Last time, I had terrible back problems, and I hope to avoid that this time.

My in-laws wedding is the weekend. I don't know how to conceal my big ol' belly. I seriously look three-four months pregnant already. I am sure it is from all the drugs. Have I mentioned how much I am dreading this wedding? I did get a super-cute formal dress for DD. So, as fat as I might look, at least my daughter will be cute! :) (I really, really wish I could drink at this wedding. My DH and I were joking that I should take my extra valium before this wedding. Sounds sooooo good!)

[2HUNGRY!]

Bawstin -- I agree with mst that guys just don't get it. Hang in there. My DH told me before the 1st IUI that maybe it would happen naturally when we go on vacation in October but after our IUI all he can talk about is how amazing it is and how many more treatments can we do. Its been a total turn around, so maybe after your DH sees that its not so bad he'll be more open to more treatments -- if needed.

Kim -- Woo hoo on CD14 ovulation. Have you changed anything to get such a great cycle? You are PCOS right?

MST -- Good luck!

Candace -- Thanks for the tips. I think I would have a hard time doing any of those things, but maybe its something I can work on.

Susan -- Did you have your beta yet? How are you feeling?

Thanks everyone for your thoughts on how far you will go. I think I am having such a hard time lately because IUI is the last treatment my insurance will cover. So, after this, its time to make some hard decisions. Plus, I am mourning the kids I will never have. I wanted to have 4 but now I feel like I will be lucky to have 1. Unless I end up with quads which would also be a disaster!

I'm only 5 days past IUI but already I am analyzing every twinge/feeling/horoscope in the paper! Plus the progesterone messes with my head. Anyway, I'll type in my horoscope below, tell me if you think it means I'm pregnant:

Make no mistake: You're ready for something big to come your way, and its only a matter of time before you're involved body and soul.

:D

ETA -- MST we were posting at the same time. Good luck this weekend. Don't worry, I'm sure no one will notice as much as you think they will. And just think, this time next week it will all be over!

[cangoss]

Hungry - I think that's a great horoscope to have! I can't guarantee it will happen this month, but maybe it means it will be soon.
How many rounds do you have with IUI under your insurance?

Meredith - you have to come up with either a really ridiculous answer or else a serious one that will stop them cold for the people who will ask you if you're pg. A brochure at my clinic suggests "I'm sure you understand that we're not ready to discuss such personal information right now". I don't think I could say that with a straight face. You could also come up with something about how you've been trying lots of baked goods and the pounds must have crept up on you:D In any event, you will have to post photos of Ilyssa (on the toddler thread if not here) because I'm sure she'll be adorable.

[Couperine]

I give up - I've been lurking all month, and I miss catching up with everyone, so here I am!

2Hungry - Congrats on the IUI - the wait can sure mess with your head! My DF who had in-vitro two weeks ago had major issues when they thawed her embryos; to implant two, they had to thaw 5. She definitely mourned those possibilities, so you are not alone.

mst - Thank goodness the dreaded wedding will soon be over! If I'm being too nosy, then just whistle and ignore me, but how long until your first beta? I obviously have too much time on my hands, but I want to keep cheerleading for people! :)

cangoss - I think your therapist sounds wonderful - I think it's pretty neat that you two are going straight to the point of how to cope with your feelings about pg rather than dawdling a while then getting to the heart of the matter. Congrats on your weight loss! I like your reward; it reminded me that I need that kind of goal to get myself back under control food-wise.

Bawstinn - I hope that your DH will start sharing your pov sooner rather than later; since you are reading the book, hopefully your DH will get more involved in the process since you will know so much more about your cycles. DH checks my chart daily and kindly informs me that I will need to add a smiley for that evening. :D

Thanks for asking about Susan - maybe now she will update everyone! :)

As for me, I am starting week 7 - still a bit worried since my mc was in week 7, but all worrying will do is make me eat yet more food. I was doing WW so well until my 2ww, but I've gained 8 lbs since July. I'm 50 (sigh now 60) lbs overweight anyway, so I certainly don't need to be sucking down every carb food in sight.

I'll try my best to cheer more than update - I won't feel comfortable posting on the pg thread until I'm done with the first trimester, and I really like the support that everyone gives here.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--So, when do you go in for a test? I am praying for you. I am sorry too of your insurance struggles....it really is rediculous that coverage isn't a standard part of our plans. Ugh, don't get me started.

Thanks for asking about my beta. To be honest, I intentionally didn't post b/c I wasn't sure how well it would be received and I don't fully know the ettiquite of the thread....e.g. when you need to move on, etc.

But, since you asked...I had a very strong beta on Friday. More important than the number though is that you want to see them double every 48 hours and my clinic tests until you get to a level of 2,000. So, on Friday I had a level of 928 (20DPO). Everyone was all excited. Me, cautious for the beta on Sunday. So, on Sunday we had an increase of 1.83x, rather than 2x. My clinic (DH spoke to them b/c I was at a work function) said b/c my initial beta was so high, they were delighted with the outcome.

Me, I am scared to death. Last cycle I had doubling betas until the same DPO and then it went to 1.84x and then two days later, only to 1.4x. So, I know each pg is different but I am having a very hard time not overanalyzing the similarity in #s. On the plus side, I have had zero spotting which I did have last time. And, other than fatigue, I feel awesome.

So, tomorrow is beta #3 and then my u/s is on Friday. I am more scared now than I was in the 2ww....ugh.

Sorry for the book.

Susie

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- I hope everything works out for you. Good luck on your beta today. How soon do you get the results?

Nancy -- Good luck getting through this week. Don't beat yourself up too much about the weight gain.


Susan asked how well we would recieve pg news. I know for myself, I would probably want to keep hanging around here until the end of the first trimester. When you've struggled with IF you're all too well aware that two lines on the pg test is not the end of your worries. Plus, I like hearing about all of you graduates and am in no hurry to get rid of you!

[Kerri]

Cangross - I am going to weigh in about the therapist. About 9 months after starting to TTC and realizing that this was not going to be easy and having a hard time with it in general, my sister got pregnant by accident. Boy, was that a kick in the stomach. Everything that I imagined myself doing, I had to watch her do it. So, I got a reccomendation for a therapist dealing with infertility from my OBGYN. She said some interesting things, had me do some interesting things, but one time she told me that I was so stressed and that there was no way I was going to get pregnant when I was that stressed. After some google searches on that, I found that not only was that not true, but that you should NEVER say that. I had been a big fan of therapy in general, but now I am thinking that it is just had to find a good one. What I learned is this, you can't change the way you feel, and the way you feel is always right. You might think that you shouldn't be jealous of other pregnant people, but lets face it, you are. Well, that is ok. Instead of trying to get rid of these feelings, I just realized that was normal. It was ok to be angry and sad and that I wadn't angry at these people (unless the opened their big fat mouths and said something stupid) but I was angry at my situation. Things were a lot easier once I realized that. Oh yeah, and I quit the therapist.

Meredith - I find usually a comment about illegal drug use usually shuts people up. Good luck this cycle!!

[kbs]

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Kim -- Woo hoo on CD14 ovulation. Have you changed anything to get such a great cycle? You are PCOS right?

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Honestly, I have no idea (and I am PCOS, no insulin resistance). Since I stopped the pill over two years ago, my cycles seem to be anywhere from 26-42 days - but I do actually seem to have a cycle which I've been happy about (as opposed to my pre-BCP years when I would go as much as 7 months without one). I have lost 27 pounds this year, since we bought a treadmill for Christmas. I've done it with fairly minimal changes other than the exercise. I'm generally a pretty healthy eater, but have "portion control issues". One thing I have changed is to try to eat more protein. For example the mornings that I exercise I have a scrambled egg and lite whole wheat english muffin before I leave for work. I gave myself the summer off from the treadmill and didn't gain any weight which I was very proud of myself for. And since 9/1 was the date I had in my head to get back into an exercise routine, I've been happy that I was able to stick to it.

Hungry- I'm thinking good thoughts that the IUI was successful. I think part of why I haven't gotten past the point of just trying to let it happen on it's own is because I'm so scared of ending up at the point where you may be - when the insurance runs out and then having to make those hard decisions. I really hope that it doesn't come to that for you.


MST - Sending good vibes in your way!

Cangoss - Congrats on the 5.5 lbs! That bag is great reward for yourself- I think it's good to have mini goals and then prizes for reaching them - helps keep it from feeling monumental.

Couperine - How great to have a DH so involved he's checking your chart! My DH just can't seem to even consider what it would be like if I was pregnant - I sometimes feel like he's trying to counterbalance any optimism I may have, which is fine. It's just the complete opposite of our normal roles - he's usually the one jumping ahead and analyzing every possible outcome of a situation, and I'm the one saying, whoa tiger slow down.

As for me in the 2WW now and this is the most hopeful I have EVER been- probably not a good sign. I have a regular doctor appointment tomorrow with a new primary care. In early July I started losing my hair in alarmingly large quantities - I stopped taking the Metformin thinking that may have been it. I'm still not sure, so I'm hoping this doc can maybe provide some possible reasons.

-Kim

[SusanPC]

Thanks. I do feel much more comfortable here than on the pg boards. I mean last time my m/c was between 7-8 weeks. Today I am 5w3d.
My first u/s is on Friday and today my beta was 3585, which is a 2.11x increase from Sunday! I have been talking to my little bean in there begging it to make it....maybe it listened! If anyone doesn't want me here, just say the word though.

Nancy--I am glad to hear you are doing well. So excited for you! Your u/s will be here before you know it and when you are past week 7 I know you are going to rest easier!

Candace--I hope you are continuing to enjoy the therapist. I really think it is a good idea and like I said, something my DH and I both very much have considered. Kudos on the weight loss too!

Meredith-- Good luck as you go through the 2ww. Superstition or not, we will know when 2 weeks had passed :D I am praying for you big time.

Kim--Sending good vibes your way too. I know how tough the 2ww is. I think I spent about $200+ on HPTs this cycle. My husband was about to kill me.

Ok--long day at work. Off to unwind. Thanks for listening.

[cangoss]

Susan and Nancy - I agree with the consensus that TTC vets are good around here until the magic 3 mo. point. I hope everything continues to go well for both of you and you get to get out of here though (along with the rest of us!). Susan that is great news about your beta!

Hungry - still thinking good thoughts for you - and Meredith - I'm thinking sticky thoughts for you.

Kerri - I see what you're saying, but I'm trying to stick on the optimistic side. I was really struggling with the fact that I was feeling bad about feeling bad, and that's a negative cycle I just don't want to be in.

Kim - I have recently lost gobs of hair and suspected it was due to metformin. I asked my NP and she said that others had reported that to her, but she had never seen anything medical on it. Thankfully mine never got to the point that it was noticeable, and I think it's slowed down a bit. Which is a very good thing! I'm starting to realize that metformin is probably going to be a long-term addition to my life because of the positive health benefits I've seen in addition to ovulation - both my blood pressure and my cholesterol are way down - my cholesterol is on the high end of normal, rather than the stratospheric end of high for the first time ever.

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- That's great! Good luck today.

Kim -- I'm bummed to hear that stopping the met did not stop your hair loss. I have been having the same problem and blamed it on the met. Luckily its not noticeable yet, but I am worried about it.

Hi Candace and everyone else.

I'm 7 dpiui and the trigger is still in my system but just barely. I think that means this weekend I can start testing for real. I ordered bulk tests of the internet and got about 50 for $25 so I'll probably go crazy with it all. I am still looking for symtoms and was very happy yesterday when I felt sick on the metro. Of course that probably had more to do with the very large, smelly man in a fleece vest who sat next to me (it was 90 degrees out).

I'm super bloated but am trying to keep up with the good diet and exercise. I'm afraid to do any of my usualy yoga because I'm afraid I might dislodge my uters or something so I might try kickboxing tonight. Or I'll just walk on the treadmill. We'll see.

[2HUNGRY!]

Bad night last night -- my brother and sister in law are having another baby in April. For those of you keeping score, that's 2 since we've started trying.

[mst]

(((2hungry))). I am so sorry. Infertility is so unfair. After IVF, I was told not to do any strenous exercise. I'd skip the kickboxing, and just do some easy treadmill.

I will write more later, just popping in to respond to 2hungry.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry---((((HUGS)))) I am sorry, but completely understand. I had a friend "accidently" get pg. on month 1 of their use of the "natural" method. He is now 3 weeks old. It's tough, but I believe we will all have our time. Hang in there.

I agree with MST, you don't want your body overheating in early stages, I would take it easy in the near term. Walks, etc.

[kbs]

((2Hungry)) - I'm so sorry. It's so hard when people close to you get pregnant - I am sure we all struggle with those feelings of jealously and anger, followed by feeling guilty for feeling that way in the first place. It's just a vicious cycle.

-Kim

[Bawstinn]

((2Hungry)) - I'm sorry.

I finally received my appointment letter in the mail yesterday. It is for 10/1 at 8 AM. CD3 right now, so I guess the timing will work if there is some sort of physical exam. I was online at the hospital website and they were talking about things you *need* such as a physical, Pap, etc and I already had all that last month.

I also read where they will do IUI three times prior to you then having to go through consultations to try and find out why it hasn't worked.

That's about it from here ... just waiting.

[cangoss]

(((((hungry))))) that sucks. It has taken me months to come to terms with my SIL's pregnancy, and I still get tears of jealousy in my eyes sometimes. I'm so sorry you have to add that to your stress load.



I finished my bcp pack last night so now I'm waiting for AF - I'm figuring day 3 is bound to be Monday because I have a long-scheduled dentist appt at 8AM and it will be a PITA to do both.

[2HUNGRY!]

Hi everyone. Thanks for the hugs. It was tough, but I'm getting used to the idea. I'm kicking myself that we agreed to go up there over Thanksgiving though. At least its not Christmas with all its adorable baby toys.

Candace -- I hope it works out with the timing and that your cyst is gone.

Bawstin -- Why do they do IUIs without any testing? That seems weird. Of course, you are paying out of pocket so its probably a good thing in your case.

Kim -- When do you test? Is this 2WW going sloooooowly?

Susan -- Today is your ultrasound, right? Good luck, and let us know how it goes.

MST -- Good luck this weekend.

I'm cramping but still holding out hope. I may test tomorrow or I might wait until Wednesday like a good girl (my NP told me DO NOT test before then). Have a good weekend everyone!

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--Cramping is a good sign....


Everyone else, sorry for the completely me post but I am feeling miserable. I have a day full of meetings and need to get it together.

U/s today didn't go well. The sac was small. RE saw a fetal pole but basically say it looks way behind where he wants it. So, he "isn't ready to pull the plug" yet and I have to go back in next Saturday when by my calcs I will be 7W0D. I honestly don't know how I am going to deal with this again....

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan...There are no words. I am so sorry. Good luck getting through the day, and I will hold out hope for you that it is just too early to see anything. ((((Susan)))

[Pony]

2Hungry--Cramping is a good sign....


Everyone else, sorry for the completely me post but I am feeling miserable. I have a day full of meetings and need to get it together.

U/s today didn't go well. The sac was small. RE saw a fetal pole but basically say it looks way behind where he wants it. So, he "isn't ready to pull the plug" yet and I have to go back in next Saturday when by my calcs I will be 7W0D. I honestly don't know how I am going to deal with this again....

Oh Susan. I'm coming out of lurker mode again :rolleyes: :) . I know exactly how you are feeling right now and just wanted to give you a big (((Susan))). I'm pulling for the little fetal pole!!!!!

Michelle

[Couperine]

(((Susan))) - I will keep thinking good thoughts for you.

[kbs]

((Susan)) - sending lots of hugs and positive thoughts your way.

-Kim

[mst]

((Susan))- I have all my fingers and toes crossed. Just keep thinking good thoughts.

[cangoss]

((((susan))))) ditto to all of the above. Let's hope for better news next week.

[helios7]

De-lurking with good thoughts for SusanPC!

I've got my fingers crossed for you..... hang in there! Positive baby growing thoughts coming your way!

[SusanPC]

Thanks so much for the kind notes. I did some quick research on the IVFConnections boards and it seems that MANY woman are in this situation when they go in for early u/s. Plus, I have a very tilted uterus (per RE this AM, but I have heard this before). So, I am going to think positively. At 7 weeks we really should know if there is cause for concern or if this was a false alarm. It is going to be a long week....but, what are you going to do?

My thoughts with those of you in 2ww (2Hungry, MST, Kbs), those with early positive results (Nancy and Helios) and those in various stages of cycling or getting ready (Candace, Bawstinn). Pony, I always appreciate your thoughts and am only sorry that we have this in common yet again!

I hope everyone has a great weekend. I am going to try...

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- I'm glad to hear about your research. 7 weeks seems like a much better time to know what's going on. Have you had any spotting this time? i know that was cause for concern last time.

How long does it take for a trigger shot to leave your body? I'm 10dpiui and 11 days past my trigger shot and I'm still getting + tests. I'm begining to hope that they're real +'s but I know its still early.

Of course I came down with a terrible cold yesterday. Does anyone know what I could take if anything?

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--I've had no spotting at all this time. So, that is good I suppose.

I think by 11dp trigger it would definately be out of your system. I am cautiously optimistic for you! When do you go into the RE for an official test?

[cangoss]

*****silent hopeful yipppeeees for hungry!!!!*********


susan - glad to hear there's no spotting. You sound like you're doing a little better now, but it's going to be a long week.

[cangoss]

any updates? Hungry????


AF arrived. The ultrasound is scheduled for Tuesday AM. I've started crossing all fingers and toes in hopes that the monster cyst went away like it was supposed to.

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- How are you? I'm thinking about you this week.

MST -- How was the wedding?

Candace -- I hope the monster cyst is gone. You were on BCP right? That should have helped I hope.

I've taken 5 tests and all have been positive, and I think this morning's test may have been darker. I got the NP to move my beta up to tomorrow instead of Wednesday. I'm starting to hope a little, but I'm not exactly running out to decorate the nursery yet if you know what I mean.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--I am so excited for you. Can't wait to hear how it goes tomorrow!!!!

MST--Yes, can't wait to hear about the wedding. What did you end up wearing?

cangoss--Positive thoughts coming from my way that the cyst will have shrunk and you'll be back on track.

Nancy--the countdown to the u/s is on, huh?

Me--Just hanging in there. We spent the weekend looking at houses and meeting with a builder. So, we stayed very busy. I am trying very hard to be positive. Strangely, I am not overly worried....I guess b/c it is completely out of my hands at this point. I go back on Sat (7w0d) and am just praying for major growth/development during the week. In may, between 7-8 weeks was when we determined my little one had stopped growing. Still no spotting and I am feeling naseus today....fingers crossed it means something.

[kbs]

Lots of waiting going on with our group, huh?

2hungry - I'm echoing Susan's excitement, but I'll refrain from the full on treatment until after your beta.

cangoss - good luck at your u/s tomorrow!

Susan - glad to hear you kept busy this past weekend. I'm continuing to send postive thoughts your way until your next appt.

As for me, today is 10 DPO and I'm planning to test sometime this weekend. Originally I was thinking I would test on Monday, but I've decided to just stop kidding myself with that illusion- there's no way I'll be able to wait, when I know I could do it sooner. I wish I could just speed up time. *sigh* I'm busy playing this game in my head where I convince myself that the test will be -, but I'm not very successful with that so far.

-Kim

[SusanPC]

2Hungry---Thinking of you today! Good luck with your official beta!

[mst]

Hi everyone- will update on me later. I wanted to send good luck vibes to Candace!

2Hungry- sounds good to me!:)

[cangoss]

Thanks for all the good thoughts. The good news is that the hemhorragic cyst is gone and I don't have to have a lap right now. The bad news is that there are still a couple of questionable cysts. So they had me go for an estrogen check and said that if the estrogen level is OK, then I'll be cleared for this cycle. If it's not, I'll probably have to do another month of bcp. I'll find out this afternoon what the plan is.

Hungry - I have my fingers and toes crossed for you!

[SusanPC]

Candace--all crossables crossed that the estrogen tests come back as hoped. Hang in there!

[2HUNGRY!]

Candace -- I hope everything comes back okay. Do they have any idea what is causing all of the cysts?

Susan -- Are you moving? Where are you looking? I love house hunting but hate moving.

I went for my blood draw this morning and am waiting for my phone call some time this afternoon. This is going to be a slow day.

[mst]

Candace- Yay on not having that monster cyst. Fingers crossed for estrogen!

2Hungry- Fingers crossed for this afternoon!

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--We live in a townhouse in Arlington. We have just been looking at houses--the townhouse is getting cramped. Would like to stay in Arlington, but may end up a bit farther west....depends on how much of a yard we decide we need. We met with a builder over the weekend but didn't love the lot he has at the moment....so, the search continues.

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- We used to live in Arlington and loved it, but couldn't afford it when we wanted a bigger house. Now we live in Alexandria which we like too.

Thanks for all of the crossed fingers everyone. My HCG was 96 which at 3w6d is a great number, so says the NP. I of course will spend the rest of the day googleing it. DH finally believes me that I am (for now) pregnant and will hopefully finally clean the litterbox. I go in next Tuesday for a repeat beta. A week seems like a long time to wait, but I've been waiting 2 years for this so I guess I will live.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry---That's awesome!!! Congratulations! If you are googling, check out www.betabase.info. Great sight to compare betas. Yay!

[cangoss]

Hungry - congratulations!!!

(you give me hope!)

[cangoss]

For once, I have good news. My estrogen level looks "great" so I'm cleared for this cycle and my femara prescription has been called in:D Now I just have to decide whether or not to do IUI. I'm leaning towards not doing it but Hungry's success has me questioning that. I think I'll go naturally (as natural as it gets around here:rolleyes: ) this time and then do IUI the next cycle if we're unsuccessful this month.

[2HUNGRY!]

Candace -- That's great! It took me about three cycles before I was brave enough to do the IUI, and I had known cervix issues. Even know I question if I "needed" it and if it was actually the surgery that led to our success rather than the IUI. It wasn't painful at all though, and I think with femera (like clomid) you don't have the risk of higher order multiples like you do with injectibles. What days do you take the femera?

Susan -- Thanks for that site! I bookmarked it!

[mst]

2Hungry- Who hoo! Do you know what day you ovulated? Or, how many days ago was your IUI?

Candace- What are your reasons for/against IUI? Maybe we could give you some feedback (or sometimes just writing it out helps me decide). I am so happy for you!

[cangoss]

I start the femara today. It has no increased risk of multiples beyond the normal chance. That's one of the reasons my clinic stopped using clomid and started using femara. I'll go in for an ultrasound on day 13 and they'll check out what's going on - if there's more than one we can choose not to try.

Reasons for IUI: 15% increased chance of success

Reasons against IUI:
- money (not a huge amount - probably about $150 after insurance)
- a desire to make it happen "naturally"
- DH hates "producing" (he'll get the job done, he just doesn't like it)
- I get a total of 8 cycles on my insurance (lifetime) and it doesn't matter whether they're IUI or IVF. So I don't want to "waste" a cycle if I don't need it. But chances are that we'll move out of state next summer so I'll have different insurance.

[mst]

Candace- do you want feedback? Or do you want to make the decision yourself?

As for me, things are looking good.;) Still feeling very superstitious.

As for the wedding? Well, DH and I are glad that it is over. The two worst things were that I ate stuffed mushrooms, and later, DH gleefully told me that they had escargot in them. So, I am in the bathroom puking, and my SIL recognizes my shoes. I am sure that she was able to put 2 and 2 together.

Then, my SMIL (the s stands for step or stupid...) does a 360 rub of my belly, and squeals- "ARE YOU PREGNANT?" And, I must say, I was wearing underwear that could suck in anything, and the dress was very highwaisted. I really would have made a not-nice comment, but since it was her wedding, I just said, "if we have something to tell you, we will tell you. " She said, "do you promise? Do you swear?" Umm, what does she think I am going to do? Show up at the next family event with two kids?

Then, she heard about the escargot incident, and called the next day to ask if I considered that I might be pregnant. DH explained to her again. More emphatically. But, he still thinks the message is not getting through.:p

[cangoss]

Candace- do you want feedback? Or do you want to make the decision yourself?


opinions are welcome - I've pretty much made up my mind, but I'm open to feedback from the knowledgeable ladies around here:)

[mst]

I think the 15% chance is better than nothing, and you have been going through this for so long. Personally, I would grab any advantage you can so that you can move on from TTC and be pregnant.

And, of course, I do support whichever choice you make!

[2HUNGRY!]

MST -- Glad all of your undisclosed things are going well. ;) I'm glad you got through the wedding too. Your ILs are something else. Escargo would make me puke pg or not!

Candace -- Does the 8 cycles include just using femera? Would you go straight to IVF without using IUI? The good thing about IUI is you don't really have to know ahead of time, so at least you have a couple of weeks to think about it. I will tell you though, as soon as we did the IUI I started to wonder why we hadn't before. It was a snap, really, and way less invasive than IVF. I don't think it would ruin your chances forever to try naturally for a month though. What does your DH think? My DH was against it until we tried 3 cycles on clomid alone.

[SusanPC]

MST--Glad to hear things are going well. Hope it continues....sure it will! Can't wait till we finally hear.

2Hungry--So, you go back next week, huh? Has it sunk in?

Candace--I probably am not the best person to offer advice. I HAD to go straight to IVF before ever TTC b/c of dh's failed vas reversal. But, I have to say---I've heard an IUI is a lot easier than IVF so maybe give that a shot first? IVF is doable....but it isn't fun in the least....when you move can you look for an employer with IVF coverage. It certainly has taken that stress out of the equation for me to not have to worry about finances on top of everything else. If an IUI is similar to an Embryo Transfer in terms of the cathetar with ultrasound guiding...it is a piece of cake...seriously. I wish you the best in your decision though. I am sure it isn't easy...and you have to do what is right for you.

Me--So, I am naseus (sp?) and had the worst cramps in the night.....who knows what it all means but I am praying for Sat. If things go poorly I will need to demand testing etc. Clearly getting pg isn't my problem but 2x in a row to me spells a problem with staying that way. I am getting really nervous as Sat approaches and am ready for the u/s to be over already!

Nancy--How are you holding up?

Kim--Thinking of you....the 2ww is the pits, isn't it?!?

[cangoss]

Thanks for all of the thoughts. I have an appointment with the NP who is doing my weight monitoring on Tuesday, and I'm going to talk to her about it and make a decision then. I don't trust the NP I saw yesterday. She never seems to have any answers and she doesn't inspire confidence. When I got to the pharmacy to pick up my prescription at 6:30 last night, they hadn't received it. I had to call the after hours number and have the nurse on call phone in the prescription, because I had to start it last night. She wasn't sure what my correct dosage was so she guessed, and then told me to call this morning and have them look up the dose in the computer. I just called and there is no record of my prescription being sent anywhere. So the NP I saw yesterday never sent it. Just an example of why I wasn't going to start asking questions. I will be totally freaked out if she is the one who is on call the day of the IUI if I go that route.

Femara cycles without IUI don't count in the 8 total. I think I would do a few IUI cycles before going on to IVF. IVF is a total nightmare around here - they don't do it here - I'd have to go to Indianapolis, which is 2 hours away. I'm really hoping we don't get to that point.

now that I've written a small novel about myself...

Susan - I really hope that the nausea is for good reasons and the cramping is nothing. This has got to be one of the longest weeks of your life.

Hungry & Meredith - hope everything continues to go well.

[Couperine]

Just checking in - DH has a business trip in Madison, WI this week, and DS and I came along because I absolutely love the area.

Things still looking well here - I'm into week 8 now, and all is well. I'm so tired of mild nausea all the time; it goes away for a little after I've eaten, but it's hard to maintain small food intake all day long in a hotel.

Sounds like a positive month so far for everyone; Candace, I have no experience in the matter, but all things being equal, I'd go for the extra 15% chance.

Susan, I hope things keep moving along positively for you, and thanks for thinking about me.

2Hungry - Looking good! I'm such a nut that I peed again on a stick last Friday to be sure the line was darker - if it all works out, you won't care how much you spent on tests. :)

mst - Nausea good, new MIL bad - here's hoping you stay sick for a while. :)

I'm thankful to be doing something else this week - it's making time pass faster. My US is on Oct. 2, and I should be 10 wks at that point. Over halfway done with Sept!! I'll likely check in again early next week, and I'm thinking sticky thoughts for everyone!

[2HUNGRY!]

Susan -- I am thinking of you tomorrow. I hope this week has gone okay for you and that you are still sick! I never thought I'd say that to someone.

Hi everyone else. No news here, I just wanted to pop in and say good luck to Susan since I won't be around this weekend.

[SusanPC]

Thanks. I appreciate it. I am just ready to know. This week has been miserable with waiting. I am still feeling awful but I am sure nerves is a big part of it....we'll see.

I hope all are well and I'll update you this weekend.

[mst]

Susan- good luck! I saw a "Baby Story" this week where they thought the woman had miscarried. She insisted on waiting a week and having another u/s...and now has a little girl! Thinking of you....

[kbs]

Susan - fingers crossed for you tomorrow!

As for me, I tested this morning (today is 14DPO) and got the BFN as expected. I'm disappointed, but I had pretty much prepared myself for that so I wasn't surprised. I'll test again in a few more days if AF doesn't arrive - my cycles are never consistent so who knows when it will show up.

Anyway- hope everyone has a great weekend!

-Kim

[SusanPC]

Kim ((((HUGS))))--this journey is so difficult. I'll hold out hope for you! Hang in there.

[mst]

Kim- Stinks. I am thinking of you.

[2HUNGRY!]

Kim -- I'm sorry. Its not over until AF sings though. The internet is full of people who don't get a BFP until 18 DPO or something.

[SusanPC]

Ladies, thanks for the thoughts/prayers. It must have paid off b/c the growth caught up. We saw a strong heartbeat and amazing growth since last week. I was graduated today to my ob/gyn and just have to go to the RE 1x per week until I am weaned off the estrogen and progesterone.

Of course, it is still early (7w) but I am feeling much better. My appt. with my ob is in a little over 2 weeks.

I have made myself sick with worry the last couple of days....so glad the weekend is here so I can relax.

[mst]

WOOOOHOOOOOOO! I could not be happier for you!:D :D :D

I am so glad that you kept your thoughts positive, even though it was such a scary time.

WOOOOOHOOOO!!!!

[2HUNGRY!]

Yahoo Susan!!!!! That is great!!!!! I am so happy for you and DH. Congrats!!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Pony]

Yay Susan and family!!! I'm so happy for you. I've been thinking of you.

I just got back from spending the day w/ a dear friend of mine and her 4 week old little girl. My friend is such an inspiration to me and she gives me hope for whenever we start TTC again. She just had her 1st baby, but this was her 3rd pg. She has also been through alot, like all of us, and finally has her little baby. She is such a proud, happy mom.

Michelle

[cangoss]

Susan, that is such a relief to hear. I just got home from break fast (after Yom Kippur) and got online to see what happened. YEA!!! We'll keep up the good thoughts.

[Couperine]

Yea Susan!! Great news - I hope you've been having a wonderful weekend.

[kbs]

This is great news Susan - congrats!!!! I'm so happy / relieved for you!!

I'm officially out as AF arrived yesterday. My husband was quick to point out that silver lining - we are having our annual Oktoberfest party next weekend, and now I'll be able to "enjoy myself" ;) . I'm optimistic for this month though - I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I get a + OPK - I'll take that as a start!

-Kim

[2HUNGRY!]

Kim -- Bummer, I'm sorry. I hope you have a + OPK again this cycle.

cangoss -- How's femera treating you? When do you go in for monitoring? Have you met with the good NP yet?

Michelle -- That's a great story. Thanks.

[mst]

Michelle- glad to hear from you. I often say that the Booby Prize of infertility is that you really appreciate your child/ren that much more!

Kim- Sorry about the negative, but yay for Oktoberfest!

[cangoss]

I have finished the Femara and I go in for my ultrasound on Friday. Still undecided on the IUI. I am seeing the weight-monitoring NP tomorrow and I plan on asking her a bunch of questions (including finding out who is on call Saturday and Sunday since that is most likely when the IUI would happen if we go that route). I am hoping that I'll be done with hot flashes today. I have new empathy for my menopausal boss. I had conveniently forgotten about this lovely side effect from my clomid days last summer, though I know that it's nothing compared to what the IVF ladies go through.

[Pony]

Michelle -- That's a great story. Thanks.

Michelle- glad to hear from you. I often say that the Booby Prize of infertility is that you really appreciate your child/ren that much more!

Hi ladies.....Just had to make my monthly appearance, ha!!! ;) :D Hopefully, I will join in sometime in the near future, but by that time I am hoping none of you are here :p :D . This month has been exciting on the TTC Vet thread!

[mst]

One more thing about "moving up" to the pregnancy thread- I certainly hope that people will come back, lurk, chat, comment, etc. I know that I would hate being all alone on this thread, talking to myself!

[Bawstinn]

Just delurking to congratulate Susan!!!

I don't feel like I have all that much to contribute these days, but my first appointment is 1 week from today!

I forgot who asked, but the reason they will not do any extensive testing on me to start is due to the fact we already have DD and did not have problems conceiving, although I did have a m/c about 6 months prior. This time around, the thought is that the issue lies with David as a result of his spinal cord injury (knock on wood that is our only issue) and since our insurance does not pay for anything infertility related, they will perform IUI 3 times.

This is a little blurb from the hospital website:

Preliminary Consultation

To initiate your participation in the Intrauterine Insemination Program, an appointment will be scheduled prior to beginning inseminations. At this visit we will have an opportunity to complete your history and request additional records, if needed. You will receive instruction in the use of an ovulation prediction test, and plans will be made for your first intrauterine insemination, including instructions on how to contact Reproductive Endocrinology, where to go, and what to do.

Required testing prior to the first insemination:

Documentation of rubella immunity (see attached)
Normal Pap smear within past year
Normal physical exam
Semen analysis (sperm count). If this was performed locally, a copy of the report is required prior to insemination.

I had my yearly appointment in August, we (OK he) already went through the semen analysis. The only thing that has me 'worried' is the documentation for the rubella immunity. I grew up just north of Boston (in IA now) and I know that I got a second MMR shot before I did my student teaching because the state required it since I was born during the years when the shots could have been bad, or whatever the problem was with them. I am assuming that the little hometown clinic I got it at is still around (maybe) but how long are they required to keep records for? This was like 15 years ago.

I am feeling old today. I got an invite to my 20 yr reunion Saturday, last week I got an email from an old high school friend telling me she was a grandma AND I turn 38 tomorrow. :eek:

[2HUNGRY!]

Bawstinn -- I got married in Mass. (I grew up there too) and had to show that I was immune to rubella before we could get out marriage license. It was just a simple blood test that my PCP did. They tested it again at my first appointment with the RE. I bet you could go to your PCP and get the blood test. It may be easier than finding old medical records.

I am feeling good. I've had a few episodes of sickness but nothing too bad. I actually love it when it happens even though it feels gross because its the only time when I can really let myself think that I am pregnant. I go for my second beta tomorrow. I have peed on many many more PG tests and they keep getting darker so I am hoping that is a good sign. I'm happy I bought so many internet cheapies because its nice to have that tiny bit of reassurance.

[cangoss]

Hungry - hope the beta goes well today.
Maria - I was going to say the same thing as Hungry - the MMR can be proven with a simple blood test. I had it as part of the routine pre-pregnancy workup at my first infertility appt.

I saw the NP this morning. I'm down 8 pounds since I started working with her 6 weeks ago:D I'm starting to see a difference with clothes and that helps a lot.

I asked all my IUI questions and all the answers pointed to it being the right way to go except for one - the NP who I don't like is the one who's working this weekend and would be doing the procedure. She assured me that it would be OK, but I'm not so sure.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry--Thinking of you today.

Cangoss--Wow, congrats on the 8 lbs. That is fantastic! Good luck with your decision about this weekend. Would the nurse be the one to do the IUI or just assist?

Everyone else--I promise personals later. I am feeling miserable. M/S has hit me with a vengence. Last week I thought it was nerves but this week...I have eaten only saltines for a couple of days. I have lost 6 lbs in a week...I know it is all H20 weight but still. Not complaining though...just tough to get through the day at work.

Thinking of everyone.

[Laura]

Delurking for Susan PC; my niece swears by PreggPops http://www.bellybeats.com/preggiepops.htm to help with her morning sickness.

[mst]

Candace- last time, I had the biggest witch of a woman do my transfer. A truly terrible, mean person. (And, incidentally, it is her fault that my embryos were frozen in groups). Anyway, I got pregnant with DD with her. So, maybe this NP is totally clueless in life, but delivers a d*mn good IUI!

[2HUNGRY!]

Candace -- Congrats on the weight loss. That's awesome. Is the NP mean to you or does she seem like a flake? I think you told us before why you don't like her but I can't remember. It always amazes me that doctors and nurses associated with IF can be so horrible -- shouldn't they be the nicest ones?

Susan -- Sorry you're sick. That's a bummer. I've heard good things about motion sickness bands.

I sat at my desk with my cell phone all afternoon and then in the 2 minutes I left to pee the Dr. finally called. Of course I freaked out for the next hour because she didn't leave a message. I finally worked up the nerve to call the NP and everything is fine. HCG was 2108 at 4w6d. She freaked me out when she said "You wouldn't mind two would you?" I only had 1 follicle, but stranger things have happened I guess. Anyway, its going to be a long two weeks until my ultrasound which I was able to schedule.

[SusanPC]

2Hungry---so happy for you! That is an awesome number. I wouldn't worry about your u/s being pushed out. Take it from me...you don't want to go too early. At just around 7w you will definately see a h/b, etc. Right now you would probably just see the sac.

Wow, so happy for you.

Laura--Thanks for the advice. I may have to try those. Anything could help, right?

I just had to level with my boss. She said she already suspected but swore to tell no one. After the m/c in May, I am not even telling my friends (other than my BFF that knew I was cycling) and my parents/sister. I just didn't want my boss thinking I was a slacker when I walk out of the office at 6pm at night...when we are telling the team they need work long hours to meet deadlines...plus, she knew it was only a matter of time before I cycled again.

[cangoss]

Hungry - great news on the beta! I'm sure it's a relief.

Susan - sorry you're feeling miserable - I hope it doesn't last too long.


About the bad NP - I think she's borderline incompetent. She is the only one of the 3 NPs who does not have reproductive medicine certification and it shows. She just doesn't have the same level of knowledge as the other 2. She doesn't volunteer information, and when I ask questions, either I don't get a satisfactory answer or she says "I have to ask Dr. X". And she's flaky - she's the one who didn't send in my femara prescription last week. So that's why I'm hesitant to have her messing with me. Though I'm less nervous about the actual procedure now since the nurse I saw this morning showed me the catheter in comparison to the one they use for the HSG. I had a horrible time with the HSG because I have a tight cervix so that had me concerned. My real hope is that I go in for the ultrasound on Friday and they say I'm not ready yet so I don't get the trigger until Sunday and I can have one of the other two do the IUI on Monday.

[2HUNGRY!]

Candace -- I don't blame you for not wanting to have a flake do your IUI. I hope you can hold it off until one of the good NPs is on call. The IUI was nothing compared to the HSG. I literally didn't feel a thing except for the speculum or whatever you call it -- the same thing they use for a pap. I was still waiting for her to start when she told me it was all done, which wasn't the case with the HSG!

[SusanPC]

Candace--Is your appt. today or tomorrow? Thinking of you.

[cangoss]

Thanks Susan -
The good vibes need to be sent at 7:15 (central) tomorrow morning:D
We're hoping for only one egg that isn't quite ready yet - so I can have the trigger on Sunday and IUI on Monday. I have decided that if things look "great" I'm going to do the IUI (even if it's the least favorite nurse's day). I'm seeing the best of the three nurses tomorrow, so she should be able to give me good guidance.

Hungry - thanks for the reassurance on the IUI. It's good to hear from someone who has done the HSG and IUI that it's a much easier procedure.

Hope everyone else is doing well (especially those suffering from morning sickness). Isn't it funny how we fight so hard to be able to feel miserable?

[2HUNGRY!]

Good luck tomorrow Candace!

[mst]

Candace- good luck. And, I am glad that you figured out whether you wanted to do an IUI or not. It is so annoying that we have so many decisions! Hopefully, it will be money well-spent!

[SusanPC]

Candace--I will be thinking about you tomorrow AM! And, I agree about the IUI being easier than the HSG. For my Embryo Transfer (also using a catheter) I felt nothing other than the speculem (sp?) going in. NOTHING like the HSG. I am pulling for you.

[mst]

For those of you who are interested, I posted two pictures of DD on the Toddler thread, and also put one of those pictures on the Flower Girl thread. No pressure to look, but in case anyone is interested...

[2HUNGRY!]

MST -- she is adorable! I love her hair!

Candace -- You're probably finding out right about now. I'm thinking of you!

You guys will appreciate this. Last night one of DH's best friends called upset because he and his wife have been trying for 3 WHOLE MONTHS and it wasn't working. He wanted to know if they should see a doctor. We tried really hard to be sympathetic to them and not laught at them, but it was hard. I know they probably really are very upset, but we were just having a hard time feeling it, ya know? :p

[SusanPC]

MST---She is so cute. I agree, her hair is awesome. Precious.

Candace--thinking of you!

[mst]

Thanks 2Hungry. We call her "Lady Crazy Hair". Her hair is adorable when it is freshly washed, but other than that- it is everywhere. And, she won't let me put in barrettes or ponytail holders. And, you should see what a huge collection she has! I love girly things.

Candace- I hope you are getting knocked up right now!

[cangoss]

Meredith - she is absolutely adorable. Love the dress.

Thanks for all the good wishes. I might have gotten knocked up last night, but the clinical knock-up will be tomorrow AM:D I had two mature follicles that looked "great", so I'm going ahead with the IUI tomorrow. I had the trigger today. The NP said the chances of twins with two follicles are about 4% and I can live with that. I figure it doubles my chances of getting one success. The plan is to take today off, IUI tomorrow, and bd Sunday.

[2HUNGRY!]

Yay Candace!!! I'm so happy for you. Have fun this weekend.

[SusanPC]

yay Candace!!!! Good luck tomorrow. Let us know how it goes!

[Couperine]

Best wishes today Candace!!!

[cangoss]

The deed has been done. After all my worries, I didn't even feel the catheter. Now it's going to be a long two weeks. I go in next Friday for a progesterone check and I have to do a half dose of ovidrel at home. That means that hpts won't work for another ten days after that. So I have a blood draw on 10/15 if AF hasn't arrived by then.

Thanks for all the support and good wishes!

[mst]

Candace- good to hear that it did not hurt. Fingers crossed that this is *the* cycle!

[2HUNGRY!]

Congrats Candace! Are you doing prometrium?

[SusanPC]

Candace--Glad to hear it went without a hitch! Rest up and take care of yourself!!!!

[cangoss]

no prometrium for now - just the ovidrel booster on Friday. After they do the progesterone check on Friday, they may add something. I'm hopeful that I won't need it because I am going on a girls' weekend next Friday with my mom, aunt, and cousins, including the cousin who recently had a baby and the baby will be in tow. We don't need to add to the drama with hormones!

[cangoss]

A thought to finish off the month:

You know you've been ttc'ing too long when... you look at the kalamata olive on your pizza and think that it looks like the photo of an open cervix in TCOYF:p

[kbs]

Looking back at this thread for September - it seems like a pretty good month!
I just wanted to get a couple notes out before October started.

Candace - I'm really glad everything went well! The 2WW will be torture, huh??

Hungry - How excited are you for the u/s??

Susan - are you feeling any better or is it looking like this will be how your first trimester is going to go?

-Kim