16 year old Jaime Lynne spears is pregnant

[KristiB]

Story HERE (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071219/ap_en_mu/people_jamie_lynn_spears_13)

Congratulations, Lynne Spears(Brit and JLS mother). You have raised not one but TWO dumba$$es!!

What kind of example are these idiots setting for their tween/teen audience?

There was also a link to an article that said Lynn, was writing a book about parenting...but it's been delayed.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20167088,00.html

[Terri_A]

The most shocking part of all of this to me is the fact that 16 year old Spears has been LIVING with her 19 year old boyfriend!!! What mom allows that??????

[Chefzhat]

How sad. :(

[ErinM]

They referred to her boyfriend as her "long time beau". I'm sorry, she's 16....what is considered "long time"? Six months?

[mom2garret]

:( I ditto Deb. :(
Jodi

[KristiB]

The most shocking part of all of this to me is the fact that 16 year old Spears has been LIVING with her 19 year old boyfriend!!! What mom allows that??????

Those kids were pushed into showbiz at a very young age. And remember how sexualized Britney was in the early days? And she dropped out of school in 8th grade so she could work more.

I think Mr and Mrs Spears didn't look past the $$.

[Robyncz]

They referred to her boyfriend as her "long time beau". I'm sorry, she's 16....what is considered "long time"? Six months?

Actually, and I'm sorry I know this, but i just read it on another site, she's been with this guy since she was 13 1/2. That *is* actually pretty long time for a 16 year old. The guy is 19. They met at church.

Sigh.

How can you be surprised if the 16-year-old daughter you allow to live with her 19-year-old boyfriend gets pregnant?

Zoey 101 (and the entire Spears family) apparently needs a lesson in biology 101. . .

[little_bopeep]

I do have to hand it to her, tho, for the way she's been very open about being scared and unsure of what to do, and that her mom was most unhappy with her. At least she's not saying, "Oh, la-de-da we're so thrilled. I've wanted a baby ever since Britney had hers!" And also, she's taking responsibility for her actions, rather than quietly having it "taken care of."

[zwieback]

I'm just curious, what is the age of consent in CA? I presume that is where they live? Or, what is it in LA if that is where they live? Is anyone looking into statutory rape at all? Not saying that the 19 year old kid should get in trouble or anything, but I just wonder why it wouldn't be looked into. It seems as though there have been some other cases in the news lately about kids having sex and getting into trouble because of age. So, just wondering.

[Meganator]

I'm just curious, what is the age of consent in CA? I presume that is where they live? Or, what is it in LA if that is where they live? Is anyone looking into statutory rape at all? Not saying that the 19 year old kid should get in trouble or anything, but I just wonder why it wouldn't be looked into. It seems as though there have been some other cases in the news lately about kids having sex and getting into trouble because of age. So, just wondering.

I know this is off-topic, but to have this guy turned into a sexual offender with all the associated baggage sounds ridiculous, given that all of this appears to have started when he was also underage, and that it appears to have been with the full consent of not only the girl BUT ALSO THE PARENTS. What a messed up family.

[cumulus]

My favorite part: Spears' Mom's book put on Hold (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20167088,00.html).

After Britney, I can't believe she could even consider authoring a parenting book!

[zwieback]

I know this is off-topic, but to have this guy turned into a sexual offender with all the associated baggage sounds ridiculous, given that all of this appears to have started when he was also underage, and that it appears to have been with the full consent of not only the girl BUT ALSO THE PARENTS. What a messed up family.

Oh, I totally agree. I was just curious because the one case that came to mind when I heard this story was the kid in Georgia who was sentenced to 10 years for having oral sex with a 15 year old when he was 17. I know the ruling was later overturned, but still. Like I said, I don't think the 19 year old should get in trouble. It just made me wonder. Jamie Lynn spears and her parents (for allowing her to live with her boyfriend at 16) are equally responsible. It still could have happened if the two weren't living together, of course. But, it certainly didn't help matters either.

[KristiB]

My friend kids love her show. I wonder if she'll lose her Disney contract?

[krhm]

My friend kids love her show. I wonder if she'll lose her Disney contract?

That was one of my first thoughts. Although Zoey 101 isn't at the same level of Hannah Montana, it's still a very popular show with the tween group. And the tween group already knows about Vanessa Hudgens and the nude photos. Given the stir that created amongst my daughter and her friends, I'm not looking forward to the fallout from this.

[DmOrtega]

My favorite part: Spears' Mom's book put on Hold (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20167088,00.html).

After Britney, I can't believe she could even consider authoring a parenting book!

The interesting part about the book to me, is that people will buy it.

[boisewinesnob]

The most shocking part of all of this to me is the fact that 16 year old Spears has been LIVING with her 19 year old boyfriend!!! What mom allows that??????

Sadly, I know a mom who did just that :rolleyes: . And then was furious when the girl ended up pregnant :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad:

[suebear37]

The interesting part about the book to me, is that people will buy it.

Yup, as a "how not to parent" book...

Here's the major-league irony... in my morning paper, an interview with Jamie Lynn by John Rogers of the Associated Press was printed. I tried to find a link to it online but was unsuccessful.

So here, for your entertainment, are some snippets...

"I'm going to try to graduate before I do anything else."

She's more open about her own situation, saying she has no serious boyfriend. "I kind of just keep my options open. I have a bunch of friends that I always hang out with, a bunch of guy friends."


Oh, what a total train wreck...

[kima]

Obviously I don't think a 16 year old should live with her BF but you don't have to be living together to end up pregnant.


(if anyone needs to know how that could happen-PM me!) :D :D :p ;)

[Autumn]

As the parent of two girls, I would be very disappointed in Nickelodeon if her show is not cancelled. I understand kids make mistakes, and I try not to be Judy Judgmental, but holding a 16-year old pregnant celebrity up as a role model is more than I can take.

[MISSINDI]

My first thought was that she seemed so clean-cut and had a good head on her shoulders, but then I remembered that Britney was exactly like that at that age too - it wasn't until she was, what, 21 or so that she really started going downhill (everything after Justin).

Really glad that the publisher put the parenting book on hold "indefinitely." Ridiculous.

People magazine also reported that Brit found out with the rest of us ...

[Gecko]

As the parent of two girls, I would be very disappointed in Nickelodeon if her show is not cancelled. I understand kids make mistakes, and I try not to be Judy Judgmental, but holding a 16-year old pregnant celebrity up as a role model is more than I can take.

Actually, I hope they don't cancel the show. I think they should just cancel her contract and re-cast the role. Otherwise all of the other cast members get punished for her choices.

Thanks Britney and Jamie Lynne for setting such a great example of how a girl should not live her life :rolleyes: Thank goodness my girls look at both of them and see trainwreck written all over them.

[Robyn1007]

I thought I heard that the show has wrapped it's final season already so it's not an issue. If that's not true I certainly hope they don't turn it into a lessons about being a teen mom type thing because that would be criminal in my opinion and just give tweens ideas about how glamorous being a teen mom could be.

[TKay]

There was this train that wrecked a while back. The authorities have been trying to figure out how to clean up the mess it made. All of a sudden, another train car careened into the wreck. Oh, what a mess it is now.

Oy.

[MNGirlTX]

Lynne Spears, already grandmother to Britney's young sons, told the magazine: "I didn't believe it because Jamie Lynn's always been so conscientious. She's never late for her curfew. I was in shock. I mean, this is my 16-year-old baby."

This is my favorite part of the article...because you can only get pregnant AFTER curfew. :rolleyes:

And, can you give a curfew to someone who lives with her boyfriend?

[TKay]

This is my favorite part of the article...because you can only get pregnant AFTER curfew. :rolleyes:

And, can you give a curfew to someone who lives with her boyfriend?

I noticed that part too and found it amusing. Gosh, she never misses her curfew. I don't know HOW she could've become pregnant.

[tea4one]

They referred to her boyfriend as her "long time beau". I'm sorry, she's 16....what is considered "long time"? Six months?

When I seen this part of it, I could only wonder when they started dating to be considered "long time".

[ErinM]

This is my favorite part of the article...because you can only get pregnant AFTER curfew. :rolleyes:




Ah ha! No wonder I never got pregnant in high school! :D
;)

[SugarNSpice]

Seems like the parents have been relying on their children to support them financially for years. No wonder the girls are so messed up, they were given too much power at too young an age.

[Gumbeaux]

Not saying that the 19 year old kid should get in trouble or anything, but I just wonder why it wouldn't be looked into.

I think it should be.

[Jazzmatazz49]

I personally think people should be of age and married to have children, but I know that married part is not politically correct anymore. I think this young lady has blown a great career. How could she be so careless and dumb when she was such a success? At her age, not being a kiddie actor, she had great things to look forward to. Now she will just be another teenage mom in Louisiana. We have a fair number of those already.

[KristiB]

I personally think people should be of age and married to have children, but I know that married part is not politically correct anymore. I think this young lady has blown a great career. How could she be so careless and dumb when she was such a success? At her age, not being a kiddie actor, she had great things to look forward to. Now she will just be another teenage mom in Louisiana. We have a fair number of those already.

Oh no Jaime's public life has just begun!

I'll bet Mama Spears is sifting through "exclusive" deals from Larry King, People Magazine, Inside Edition and all the other tabloids and celebrity tv news shows which are too numerous to name.

Nothing sells like celebrity scandal and she'll continue to pimp out her daughter and now her grandchild.

Disgusting but true.

[Couperine]

How could she be so careless and dumb when she was such a success?

She had such awesome parental supervision, and a fabulous role model for an older sister. Unless Jamie Lynn went through the proceedings to become emancipated, her mother bears a great deal of responsibility on the outcome of the situation. It's just stupid to let your underage daughter live with her boyfriend - mentioning that her daughter has a curfew when she doesn't even live with the mom shows me that the mom still has no clue.

I hope for Jamie Lynn's sake that her parents have acted somewhat responsibly with the income that she's generated. I also hope that she can use that money to raise her young child as well as finishing her education; so many other young women who have gotten themselves into the same boat lack the financial resources that Miss Spears has available.

[barbara-cook]

Personally, I'm shocked that anyone is shocked anymore by what any so-called "celebrity" does anymore. When everything that is "wrong" about society is done by so many people, there is no "shame" in it anymore. It's the "everyone is doing it" mentality, I guess. What's one more unplanned pregnancy in today's world?

Oh, the drama.....

[blazedog]

Personally, I'm shocked that anyone is shocked anymore by what any so-called "celebrity" does anymore. When everything that is "wrong" about society is done by so many people, there is no "shame" in it anymore. It's the "everyone is doing it" mentality, I guess. What's one more unplanned pregnancy in today's world?

Oh, the drama.....

I'm not shocked considering that the whole family is trailer trash except for the money they have earned flogging their daughters.

I am -- not sure surprised is the correct word -- that someone would be that idiotic with so much at stake. I presume she was fairly non-talented so her shelf left wouldn't have lasted beyond the aging of her non-discerning young audience -- absent some kind of fluke that doesn't happen to most of these mediocre young idols.

Have these people never heard of birth control? There is obviously not going to be any further employment of her as a teen star:D (her morals clause will provide an exit to the extent she had any pending projects) and even given the debasement of popular culture, I find it hard to believe that the show will be allowed to air -- a significant monetary loss to the producer/distributor.

[CompassRose]

That's a little classist of you, Blaze. So what are you saying? If the Spears had enjoyed the social and educational privileges of higher income and status before hitting fame, they might perhaps have been liberal enough to educate their daughters about birth control -- or not have what appear to be the vestiges of moral qualms about abortion?

She's sixteen. Stupid is the norm rather than the exception at sixteen, and I remember it well -- and also remember believing that I was a remarkably learned and worldly sixteen-year-old. I admit, the Spears, senior, aren't up for any superparent awards in my book -- but it probably WOULD take some kind of superparent to keep a kid who's been exposed to the most extreme worlds of fame that young in line.

At least she's just pregnant, which -- shock of this board notwithstanding, is perfectly biologically normal, if slightly culturally handicapping in the West. She could be putting all her earnings up her nose, you know, like several other young celebutards.

[little_bopeep]

celebutards.

*snort*!!! :D

[blazedog]

That's a little classist of you, Blaze. So what are you saying? If the Spears had enjoyed the social and educational privileges of higher income and status before hitting fame, they might perhaps have been liberal enough to educate their daughters about birth control -- or not have what appear to be the vestiges of moral qualms about abortion?



I will cop to being elitist if it means that I think this type of behavior is stupid and well - without class. None of my friends were pregnant at sixteen -- nor were any of the daughters of my friends -- Ms. Spears' contemporaries.

They all knew about birth control (putting aside issues of abortion which I am in favor of but are beside the point).

Puleeze -- if the parents allowed the kid to LIVE with the guy, they also didn't instruct her on birth control?

To me this this train wreck of a family is the very definition of being without class -- uneducated, stupid with money being what seems to be the sole criteria of success in their universe. I would NEVER equate class with financial status.

I am not sure what "liberal" has to do with it -- I would assume most conservatives unless they are truly of the barefoot and pregnant species don't condone a 16 year old living with her boyfriend and having unprotected sex.

[sneezles]

I would NEVER equate class with financial status.



No? You equate middle class with a good mattress and a digital camera.:rolleyes:

[blazedog]

No? You equate middle class with a good mattress and a digital camera.:rolleyes:

Middle class is generally used as an indicia of income - "class' in this context is used in the broader sense of someone who has "class"

By economic standards, the Spears are among the ELITE.:D

And I would assume that most people on this BB who aren't seeking to insult me whenever they can would equate certain material objects with being middle class and middle class as conveying ECONOMIC status rather than social status -- but perhaps that is a distinction too subtle for you when faced with the delight of being nasty to me.:rolleyes:

[LA98]

I'm not shocked considering that the whole family is trailer trash except for the money they have earned flogging their daughters.

So you would be shocked then if they grew up wealthy, in a wealthy neighborhood? Because the town I grew up is in one of the most affluent counties in the United States -- they were some seriously rich kids there. Out of my circle of friends, 4 became pregnant during high school, and well before senior year.

I am -- not sure surprised is the correct word -- that someone would be that idiotic with so much at stake.

The expression "ten-foot-tall and bulletproof" was invented for teenagers. Those things happen to other kids, not them. And being a "celebrity," I'll bet Jamie Lynn had a double dose of that kind of thinking. Surely it could never happen to her. :rolleyes: It's not exactly idiotic, but it's some staggering immaturity.

Have these people never heard of birth control?

Sure they have. But knowing about it and using it (correctly and consistently no less) are very different things. Just a couple of years ago, a 16-year-old family member confided in me that she was planning on sleeping with her boyfriend. It sounded like bravado to me, she seemed perfectly comfortable discussing the actual act, but at the mention (mine) of the word "condom" she recoiled and actually said, "Eeeew, that's so embarrassing! And gross!" :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: As I said, staggering immaturity...

[Jalapeno]

I will cop to being elitist if it means that I think this type of behavior is stupid and well - without class. None of my friends were pregnant at sixteen -- nor were any of the daughters of my friends -- Ms. Spears' contemporaries.

They all knew about birth control (putting aside issues of abortion which I am in favor of but are beside the point).

Hmmm well I guess I'm "without class." I got pregnant at 16 and YES I did know about birth control. I was just a typical 16 year old and thought "oh it won’t happen to me."

Well that child is now 16 years old, a good and happy kid, doing very well in school, looking forward to college in 2 years, plays to much golf and doesn't read enough books, drinks to much soda and can ruin me financially in 1 sitting of sushi eating, but doing pretty darn good for a kid born to 2 classless 16 year olds.

Ms. Spears has chosen a tough life but as long as her mother keeps pimping her out as I'm sure she will she'll never realize the impact this has on normal 16 year old girls as I'm sure she will have the money to hire a nanny to raise the kid for her. Unfortunately I'm sure some of her fans will follow in her footsteps because the media will make it all sound so glamorous, only for them to find the true meaning of life as a teenage mom and there isn't ANYTHING glamorous about it.

[blazedog]

Who knew there were defenders of the Spears as parental role models as evidenced by their two laudable specimens.

I am shocked :D that some seem to view parents and family as having nothing to do with what happens to children whereas my experience (as well as statistics) indicate that certain behaviors and values including parental involvement has a LOT to do with adolescent behavior -- including UNPROTECTED sexual behavior as well as probably early sexual behavior.

A family (or parent) exhibiting these kinds of behaviors has "class" whatever their income level -- I never indicated a correlation between wealth and class although statistically these kinds of behaviors do correlate with family income and education.


From a study on Preventing Teenage Pregnancy -- I have excerpted the following

The Adolescent’s Family Family factors are powerfully related to adoles-cents’ reproductive health. Teens who grow up in intact families with two biological parents and those living in more advantaged families (that is,whose parents have more education and income)are more likely to engage in positive reproductive behaviors than their peers who lack such back-grounds. On the other hand, adolescents whose mothers gave birth as teenagers are more likely tostart having sex at an early age and to become teenparents themselves. 50 And teens with sexually experienced siblings or siblings who are pregnantor teen parents are more likely to engage in riskysexual behaviors. 19, 20, 70 The quality of adolescents’ relationships with their parents is also a factor in sexual decision-making. Teenagers who feel that they have a high-qualityrelationship with their parents and who communicate regularly with them are likely to initiate sexat a later age and behave in less risky ways thantheir peers. 54 Moreover, teens whose parents talkabout sex and birth control with their children,and communicate strong disapproval of sexualactivity, are more likely to have positive reproduc-tive health outcomes. 58 Adolescents whose parentsare involved with their schooling also exhibit fewerrisk-taking behaviors, 47 and those whose parentsclosely monitor their activities tend to be less sexually active. 5

The full article can be found at

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:MNEbg7NHALEJ:www.childtrends.org/Files/K1Brief.pdf+teenage+pregnancy+%2Bparents+education al+level&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us&lr=lang_en&client=safari

[CompassRose]

And, on the slightly lighter side, the Fug Girls weigh in (http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/go_fug_yourself/2007/12/periodically-as.html).

[Jezebelly]

I do have to hand it to her, tho, for the way she's been very open about being scared and unsure of what to do, and that her mom was most unhappy with her. At least she's not saying, "Oh, la-de-da we're so thrilled. I've wanted a baby ever since Britney had hers!" And also, she's taking responsibility for her actions, rather than quietly having it "taken care of."

YAY! I'm glad I'm not the only one with something nice to say. I'm impressed that she's standing up and taking responsibility, instead of an alternative. She makes plenty of $ to provide for the kid, so... good for her.

[katygirl]

YAY! I'm glad I'm not the only one with something nice to say. I'm impressed that she's standing up and taking responsibility, instead of an alternative. She makes plenty of $ to provide for the kid, so... good for her.

Money has NOTHING to do with what kind of parent you can be. Brittany has plenty of money to provide for her kids as well.....and that's not going so well!

[HejazSunKat]

There is nothing to be said here really except: Where were this girl's parents? Let's not lay it all on the mother, Jamie Lynne does have a father too and there doesn't appear to be a grain of sense in either of their heads. Letting their sixteen year old live with her nineteen year old boyfriend? Oh sure honey go right ahead? Give me a freakin' break. :rolleyes: Words fail at the profound idocy and irresponsibility of these people. They should now be counseling this young girl to adopt the baby out so it will grow up in a home that can adequately provide for it emotionally. The best favor they could do their grandchild would be to get it out of their family.

[BlueMoose]

I feel bad for her. It seems like those girls have been given very few guidelines or boundaries by their parents. Being pregnant and becoming a parent are hard enough when you're married and the baby is planned. I can't imagine being 16 and having the whole country talking about it. I hope things work out for her.

[Jezebelly]

Money has NOTHING to do with what kind of parent you can be. Brittany has plenty of money to provide for her kids as well.....and that's not going so well!


She's standing up and taking responsibility. That's a pretty good start. As for the $, I'm saying she's got plenty to provide for the child - which is generally a huge obstacle for teenaged mothers, and you're reading that I'm saying money is an indicator of parenting skills.

Britney is displaying profound symptoms of organic mental disorders and/or substance abuse. Let's hope Jamie Lynn and Britney aren't the same person.

[hollysmom]

The latest on Jamie Lynn. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080709/ap_en_ce/people_jamie_lynn_spears

I do wish she wasn't glamorizing her situation possibly inspiring other 16 year olds to do the same. The teen pregnancy rate has been falling. This type of publicity (Teen motherhood is a piece of cake) doesn't help that effort.

SSM

[KristiB]

I guess I hope this opened up some dialogue between mothers and teen daughters.

Jaime's lucky she has money. If she invested it well she won't have to worry about working. Not the typical teen mom situation.

[newtricks]

Ugh, I just e-mailed the today show because they're doing a segment on her. I'm only half way through my coffee so it could have been more eloquent but here it is:

"Please don't do any more segments about her. Please. I just saw a tease for this morning. You showed the OK mag cover and Meredith and Natalie both oohed and aahed? Really?? Totally inappropriate.

I have three small children, including a 6 yr old girl. We don't need the Today show glorifying teen pregnancy. I live in M---, NJ and I'm a stay at home mother, maybe I'm no longer the demographic your'e aiming for? Because covering JLS seems way beneath you."

I am actually shocked at the whole response to this.

[blazedog]

Money solves most of the basic issues of teen pregnancy -- not that I endorse teen pregnancy among the wealthy of course. However, the reality is that Ms. Spears' spawn will have the benefit of trained nannies and Ms. Spears herself will be able to live her life without the awful sword of attempting to support her child on minimal wages in a dead end job.

I would suggest watching the Baby Borrowers which is much more interesting than it might appear to be. It airs tonight starting at 8 PM -- shows what happens when teenage couples who "want" babies are actually given babies to care for.

[zwieback]

I agree, the magazines and "news" shows shouldn't be putting her on the front cover or even covering her story. I do think it sends a bad signal to other teenagers (I keep thinking of the 17 girls at a high school in Massachusetts who allegedly made a pact to get pregnant -- and succeeded!:eek: --- whether it's true about the pact or not, the fact still remains that there were 17 girls who got pregnant at that one high school).

I also agree with blazedog about the Baby Borrowers show. It really is good and I think it would be a good one to watch with teenagers. It's really quite an interesting show.

[jmarie]

trailer trash ----Harsh term...I know some good people who live in trailesr...that term paints with a broad sweep of a brush...Trailer trash

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