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funnybone
08-27-2001, 11:04 AM
I was just sent this from someone who works with someone who was scammed/slammed out of over $24,000, so please read:

Subject: Telephone Scam

This has been around but reminder never hurts.

This is legit...

DON'T EVER DIAL AREA CODE 809

THIS APPLIES CALLING FROM THE OFFICE, HOMES OR
CELL PHONES

PLEASE READ ON

This one is being distributed all over the US.This is pretty scary-especially given the way they try to get you to call. Be sure you read this & pass it on to all your friends and family so they don't get scammed!


MAJOR SCAM: Don't respond to e-mail, phone calls, or web pages which tell you to call an "809" Phone Number. This is a very important issue of Scam Busters because it alerts you to a scam that is spreading "extremely" quickly, can easily cost you $24100 or more, and is difficult to avoid unless you are aware of it.

We'd like to thank Verizon for bringing this scam to our attention. This scam has also been identified by the National Fraud Information Center and is costing victims a lot of money. There are lots of different permutations of this scam, but HERE'S HOW IT WORKS:

You will receive a message on your answering machine or your pager, which asks you to call a number beginning with area code
809. The reason you're asked to call varies. It can be to receive
information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you someone has been arrested, died, to let you know you have won a wonderful prize, etc. In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away.

Since there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. If you call from the US, you will
apparently be charged $2425 per-minute. Or, you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged more than $24,100.00.

WHY IT WORKS: The 809 area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (The Bahamas). The 809 area code can be used as a
"pay-per-call" number, similar to 900 numbers in the US. Since 809 is not in the US, it is not covered by U.S. regulations of 900 numbers, which require that you be notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a "pay-per-call" number. There is also no requirement that the company provide
a time period during which you may terminate the call without being charged.

Further, whereas many U.S. phones have 900 number blocking to avoid these kinds of charges, 900 number blocking will not
prevent calls to the 809 area code. We recommend that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize and/or investigate further and just disregard the message. Be wary of email or calls asking you to call an 809 area code number. It's
important to prevent becoming a victim of this scam, since trying to fight the charges afterwards can become A real nightmare. That's because you did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign company that argues they have done
nothing wrong.

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and colleagues to help them become aware of this scam.

Also, If you ever get a call and the person states that they are from the telephone company and they need to check the line
and ask you to DIAL '9", HANG UP.


Sandi Van Handel
AT&T Field Service Manager
(920) 687-9045
(877) 479-7902
(920) 687-9182




I know I am skeptical of calls such as this, and I am sure most of you are as well, but I know my grandmother would easily fall for this.

Gina O
08-27-2001, 12:30 PM
Every time I read this email warning, I get a kick out of the fact that it says "the British Virgin Islands (the Bahamas)" as if the two were the same thing.

While parts of this scam are real, the entire thing is not. It has been around for many years. Until about a year ago, my brother's and father's phone numbers in the US Virgin Islands were in the 809 area code. Like many of us have faced in recent years, it changed because they needed more phone numbers. I called that area code many times during the life of this problem and was never charged for anything other than state to state long distance.

It is a real scam, there are some numbers in the 809 area code that are charging as discussed in the message, but not all. For more information see: 809 Scam (http://www.scambusters.org/809Scam.html)

funnybone
08-27-2001, 01:01 PM
Gina, you are right that not all 809 numbers are scams. but the key is as quoted:


Originally posted by funnybone
if you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you don't recognize

I called my friend and his co-worker was scammed in the last few months, so although this has been out for some time, it is still happening. I just wanted to pass it on as a reminder.

sneezles
08-28-2001, 05:12 PM
Just to add a note of "wisdom"...we have 3 sons and while most times I would refer to them as DSs when we recieved a long distance bill for over $400 (we never have more than $10 on any given month) it just wasn't one of those times! It seems that there are a ton of websites that are not free, not only not free but actually cost $10+ a minute (yes, some were porno but some were for my chronic car buff and I do now check the history on a daily basisi)! So there is suppose to be a little tag/window that comes up to inform you of the charge...not so! Of course AT&T offers a one time refund but the scam is out there! Instead of tagging it to AT&T they should require a credit card number to access but no it just goes on to your bill, so I'm thinking that AT&T is a part of this scam otherwise they would just not allow the call! We now have a International block on the designated computer line but AT&T has a disclaimer that it doesn't always "work"...scam personified!