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Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 03:48 PM
Have just noticed thread below on gravy - have seen others during the time I've been talking to people on this board - have finally realised that what you mean by 'gravy' in the US is very different from what we mean by it.

Our gravy is always and invariably made from a roast, (be it whatever animal.) No roast - no gravy. (And real English gravy needs a paragraph of its own to explain properly.)

Anyway - if we cook pork chops or lamb chops or whatever, we might make a separate sauce, or, more commonly, a de-glazed reduction with the pan juices, using a couple of slugs of booze and maybe a bit of stock that's then mounted with a knob of butter - but we'd never call it 'gravy'.

Not that nomenclature matters - but would recommend that if you've fried a couple of pork chops (or whatever) you ditch the cornflour additions and try this:-
Once you've removed meat from pan to plates, leave plates aside to rest for a minute while you throw in a glass of whatever wine you may have on hand (colour doesn't really matter), reduce it by approx. a half then remove pan from heat and add a couple tiny knobs of butter - stir and swirl your pan - you'll find the wine reduction takes on a gloss - at this point, pour it over your meat - et voilá! a beautiful sauce - not much of it, but it'll be concentrated - it'll taste of your meat juices and wine and butter - what else do you need?

Jewel
03-06-2002, 03:59 PM
Shirley, I gotta ask...how does one mount butter? :confused:

HRJ
03-06-2002, 04:00 PM
Shirley, this will confuse you only further:

Traditionally, many Italian- Americans refer to tomato sauce -- particularly if it's meant to be served over pasta -- as "gravy."

I'm not Italian, but I grew up in a neighborhood with a lot of Italian families, and learned to call sauce "gravy" from the kids at school.

Helene

GayeC
03-06-2002, 04:03 PM
Shirley -- this sounds like it would make a delicious sauce. Would it work with chicken -- for example, if you sauteed some boneless chicken breasts in a pan?

Gaye

Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 04:06 PM
Ah yes - should have thought. (Incidentally, before answering - have seen your picture - and a few others - on the picture thread - you all look LOVELY!)

Anyway - to 'mount' a sauce with butter simply means to take a pan from the heat and swirl a few knobs of butter into whatever reduction you've just made. whether it be a wine reduction, stock reduction, or a mixture. It's just a cheffy word - jargon, I guess. And obviously more European than American!

Shirley

Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 04:08 PM
Yup. Will work with absolutely ANYTHING that's been fried in a pan and has left some juices behind.

Jewel
03-06-2002, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by Shirley Ekstein
Ah yes - should have thought. (Incidentally, before answering - have seen your picture - and a few others - on the picture thread - you all look LOVELY!)

Anyway - to 'mount' a sauce with butter simply means to take a pan from the heat and swirl a few knobs of butter into whatever reduction you've just made. whether it be a wine reduction, stock reduction, or a mixture. It's just a cheffy word - jargon, I guess. And obviously more European than American!

Shirley

Thanks, Shirley, I was just funning with you... ;) The language difference never fails to tickle me! I was still trying to figure out what a 'knob' of butter was when I got to 'mount'. :eek: Do you have any idea what that means over here? I gotta get my mind out of the gutter... :rolleyes:

Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 04:11 PM
And HRJ - yes - am confused - pasta sauces are called 'GRAVY'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yikes, Try asking for gravy on your spaghetti in England - you'll get some VERY funny looks. . .

Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 04:14 PM
Oh hec Jewel - yes I DO know what they mean - about time I started realising when people are taking the mickey - (but now then - does saying 'taking the mickey' leave me open to something else. . .??!!!!!!!! )

Jewel
03-06-2002, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Shirley Ekstein
Oh hec Jewel - yes I DO know what they mean - about time I started realising when people are taking the mickey - (but now then - does saying 'taking the mickey' leave me open to something else. . .??!!!!!!!! )

Now you've got me confused again Lady! What is 'taking the mickey'??? :confused: I'm gonna have to get a translating dictionary or something, 'cause you could be making such fun of us and we'd never know! ;)

Shirley Ekstein
03-06-2002, 04:33 PM
Is 11.55pm over here and way past my bedtime - tell you tomorrow. . .

Gail
03-06-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Jewel


Now you've got me confused again Lady! What is 'taking the mickey'??? :confused: I'm gonna have to get a translating dictionary or something, 'cause you could be making such fun of us and we'd never know! ;)

You've just translated her yourself. "Taking the mickey" means poking fun at.