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RebeccaT
05-29-2002, 08:42 AM
Thought I'd share this article I read today... this is completely different from what I have been told at the gym. Thoughts, anyone?

Why the "Fat Burning Zone" Is a Myth
by Jonny Bowden, M.A., C.N.S.

I want you to do me a favor. I know you're gonna hate it, but please do it anyway. I promise you it'll make life so much simpler, make things so much clearer, and save us so much time in the coming months.

I want you to go back to school with me for a minute, and review some math.

Now, when I teach this stuff to trainers, as soon as they hear "math" their eyes glaze over and they look like a collective herd of deer caught in the headlights of a Mack truck. But, honestly, how are you going to talk sensibly about calories, diets like "40/30/30," percentages of calories from protein, decoding a food label, or anything else along those lines without unfuzzy-ing up some of the basics in the math department?

Which brings me to the area of "fat burning" zones.

See, one of the biggest misunderstandings and "myth-conceptions" in the field of exercise and weight loss has been around the field of fat burning. Aerobic teachers are constantly admonishing their students to work at a slower rate so they can "burn more fat." Almost all cardio equipment in the gym has a "fat burning" program, and we fitness professionals are constantly bombarded with questions from clients about how to get their heart rate in the target "fat burning zone."

The misconceptions come from a basic confusion between percentages and absolute amounts. See, at rest, the body is always burning a mix of fuels. All other things being equal, it doesn't like to burn protein, so that leaves fats and carbohydrates (more technically, fatty acids and glucose). At rest, the "average" person burns about 70 percent fat and 30 percent carbs. As one moves from rest to activity, the percentage of fuel coming from fat decreases and the percentage coming from carbs increases. The more intense the exercise, the more carbs and the less fat in the mix, until you reach the point called the "anaerobic threshold" where you're going at about your intensity limit. At that point, 99 percent or more of your fuel is pure carbohydrate and 1 percent or less is coming from fat.

Now, this situation has led many people to assume that in order to "burn fat" they need to exercise at lower intensities. They're missing the boat. Why? Because while at rest, although a higher percentage of your calories is indeed coming from fat, you are ultimately burning a lower absolute number of calories. At higher intensity exercise, the percentage of calories from fat goes down, true -- but it is a percentage of a significantly higher number.

To illustrate this critical difference, I often ask audiences to picture Ross Perot standing next to me. Then I ask them, "Would you rather have 90 percent of all the money I have in the world, or 3 percent of all the money Mr. Perot over here has?" When they give the obvious answer, I say, "But why? 90 percent is so much higher than 3 percent!"

They get the picture.

So, let's say you're exercising at a fairly low intensity that burns, oh, 100 calories in a half-hour. Let's say that 70 percent of those calories come from fat. Your neighbor, however, is working out much harder, outside the magical "fat burning" zone: She's burning up, say 300 calories in that same half hour, but only 50 percent of those calories are from fat. Now do the math. You're burning a higher percentage of fat, but 70 percent of your 100 calories equals 70 fat calories burned. Your neighbor, on the other hand, is burning a lower percentage of fat, but she has burned up 50 percent of 300 calories, or 150 fat calories, more than twice what you've burned in the same period of time!

Get it?

I hope this whets your appetite, cause it's going to get even more interesting as we progress over the next year. Stay tuned!

Gwendolyn
05-29-2002, 09:03 AM
This article is true! I've been fighting this crusade for a long time. Sure, when you exercise harder, your body turns to carbs (over fats) for energy. But, and this is a really important but, you're still burning a lot of fats, and if you're exercising harder, you'll burn more fats overall than you'll burn at a lower intensity in the same amount of time. The example in the article was right on:

Person 1 exercises in the "fat burning zone" (e.g. by walking) for 1 hour and burns 300 calories. 70% of those calories burned are from fat, so that's 210 calories burned from fat.

Person 2 exercises at a higher aerobic level (e.g. by running) for 1 hour and burns 600 calories. Only 50% of those calories burned are from fat, so that's 300 calories burned from fat. That's more than Person 1 burned in the same amount of time. So, Person 2 burned more fat.

Here's where it starts to get interesting. Let's say you can walk for an hour, but you can only run for thirty minutes. If you walk, you burn 210 calories from fat. If you run, you burn only 150 calories from fat. So, the overall conclusion is: if upping the intensity forces you to decrease your exercise time, then stick with the lower intensity. If you can keep up the higher intensity, though, that's always better.

Also, although it's interesting to know where your body gets its fuel during exercise, it all evens out in the end. If you exercise at a high intensity (burning lots of carbs and little fats), then your body will turn to your fat stores later in the day to get energy. A calorie is a calorie, and the best advice overall is to balance the calories you eat with the calories you use up during the day. It doesn't really matter if your body turns to fat stores or carbs during exercise.

Feel free to disagree with me on any or all of this. I'm always interested in a good debate on these topics. :)

aggie94
05-29-2002, 09:06 AM
I absolutely agree, and so does the last trainer I worked with. Here's what I posted before on one of the Me I Want to Be threads:

"My opinion, and my trainer's too, is that the "fat-burning zone" idea that you burn more fat at a lower heart rate is crap. YES, you burn more fat (because you burn more calories) if you work out LONGER, and the idea is that at a lower heart rate, you have the endurance to work out longer than you do at a higher (cardio zone) heart rate. But 30 minutes at a "fat-burning zone" heart rate vs. 30 minutes at a "cardio zone" heart rate on the exact same piece of equipment? Hands down you'll lose more weight with the latter because you're burning more calories period. It's all mathematical, baby. But if you can't keep up the higher heart rate for 30 minutes, and can only do it for 20, then YES, you'll burn more calories (and likewise fat) by working out at a lower heart rate for a longer period of time."

Of course, I didn't state it quite as well as Mr. Bowden. But you get the picture. I think a lot of research in the past few years has dispelled the "fat-burning zone" myth and it has been a long time since a trainer I worked with has espoused that idea.

I still believe that if weight-loss is your goal, you are better off doing an hour of cardio exercise than a half hour, and if that means keeping the intensity lower in order to reach an hour, then by all means, do so. But if you can keep up a higher intensity (outside the "fat-burning zone") for a full hour, then you will see greater benefits. JMO. :)

I guess I was posting at the same time as Gwendolyn. So yeah, what she said. :D

LisaSch
05-29-2002, 09:39 AM
Runner's World Chimes in....

http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-51-54-628,00.html

This site has a lot of nice information even if you aren't into running!

Lisa

greysangel
05-29-2002, 10:13 AM
The article makes total sense and I guess coming from a non athletic background, I just went along with whatever I read at the time. In my opinion fitness and diet/nutrition are relatively new science fields so information will change from time to time.

My biggest problem was assuming the machine was right. The best thing my current trainer could have ever recommended was a heart rate monitor. With this, I know exactly what "zone" I'm in. I tend to do 40-60 minutes of cardio at about 65-75% which is the high end of the "fat burning" zone. I couldn't do 45 minutes above 75% which is why I stay in the fat burning zone...for duration. To me it doesn't make sense to work high for 10 minutes and then need 8 minutes of low intensity to recover. The only exception is spinning class...for some reason I can handle that duration at a high intensity. All machines in my opinion lie!! The precor elliptical which I just love does not give me nearly the workout it says it does! I have to really up the resistence in order to get a great workout.

Just my .02.

JeAnne

SusanMac
05-30-2002, 09:39 AM
Not sure where I've been, but I've never had coaches/aerobics instructors/etc tell me to work-out at a lower level to burn fat. You always, always want a higher level of aerobic activity/higher heart rate, even if working out for a shorter time. Sounds like everyone around here is in agreement on that.

I've noticed tons and tons of articles, news programs, etc encouraging people of the health benefits of gardening, cleaning your house, taking the stairs, shopping, etc. While it borders making it sound like that's all you need to do to be healthy, I think doctors are simply trying to encourage more and more people to get up off the couch even if they can't make it to the gym.

BTW...for any articles posted, it's always great to have a source listed too (what magazine/website did this come from??) I know you listed the author, but I'd be interested to know where this appeared. thx.

RebeccaT
05-30-2002, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by SusanMac

BTW...for any articles posted, it's always great to have a source listed too (what magazine/website did this come from??) I know you listed the author, but I'd be interested to know where this appeared. thx.

Sorry about that. It was listed on Yahoo's Nutrition and Fitness board, which I think is a partnership with iVillage.com. But I am not sure, since they didn't list the original source.

wallycat
05-31-2002, 12:20 PM
To SusanMac's point...to get us off the couch!!
DH used to be an avid exerciser...the last 7 or so years work got so hectic and hours crazy he gave up for lack of time.
When he retired, we started walking. Though I begged for "faster walking" he said this was his pleasure walk and he didn't care about heart-rate. Still, the weight literally melted off of him (and me :D ).

I think we are all in agreement that higher intensity workouts reap benefits sooner....but for those of us who exercise because we feel we "have to" rather than we enjoy it (I'm a freak, I enjoy it :o ), lower intensity still benefits you...and if you're trying to stay healthy, lose some weight, etc...and don't care that it may take 3 months as opposed to 3 weeks, less intense workouts may keep many of us in the game without giving up :D

lindrusso
05-31-2002, 03:34 PM
Wow, thanks for all of the great information everyone! I was confused about the whole fat-burning, low intensity thing, but everything you all have said here makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing! :)

wallycat
05-31-2002, 04:23 PM
Lindrusso,
I love your avatar....I'm shameless and may steal it :D

ChristieinMB
05-31-2002, 08:43 PM
Jeanne,
I agree about the machines that post the calories burned. I about double the calories on the elliptical vs. the treadmill. But the sweat factor (or wet bra test) tells me I'm working harder on the treadmill. I love the EFX, I just gotta increase the incline. :(
BTW, I do only HIIT for 20 minutes three times a week and love it (okay I really hate it) but knowing I need to only do it for 20 minutes keeps me on track, ANYONE can spare 1 hour a week for their health, or so I tell myself :D