View Full Version : The Me I Want to Be Week of Sept. 29th
09-29-2003, 07:17 AM
Goodmorning everyone, I was so hoping to sign on and see someone else had had a vision of what this weeks topic should be and went ahead and started it. I don't feel like my idea is all that original but I'll give it my best shot.:D
This week let's discuss tools for weight loss and a healthier future.
What are your best tools, which need improvment, what is an unlikely tool you've discovered.
I would have to say for myself that planning ahead is my very best tool when I do it. If I don't plan ahead I tend to get junk out of the vending machine or arrive at a party way too hungry.
So even though planning ahead is my best tool, it is also one that could use improvement. Starting this week I'm going to plan all of my meals and snacks one day in advance. Then hopefully w/i a couple of weeks I'll have my menus planned for the week.
An unlikely tool is my dog. He definitely motivates me to get moving on the weekends since that is when I regularly walk him. If he didn't requiere exercise I'd be much more likely to hit the snooze button.
So share your tools and maybe we'll all gain a new one.
Also I weighed in today and I'm down another 1-2 lbs. I have a hard time reading the scale but it definitely went down a little bit.
09-29-2003, 08:21 AM
Good Morning:) Yay on the loss Peggy.
I think it is a good topic idea. It got me started thinking.
I have two tools that work well for me: One is planning, in this case, I use FitDay to plan my meals for the day. I find if I don't use it, I will start slipping a little. The other is my BF. We run together in the mornings and he is so much more physically fit than I am. If I didn't have him along to keep me going, I would stop at 20 mins instead of 30:o
Of course, the tool that sometimes fails me is also my BF:rolleyes: If he is NOT in the mood to run, he can talk me out of it very easily. I think that I can conquer this problem now that I am adding swimming and yoga in, things that I have other people to help motivate me for.
I don't know about least likely tool, but my most unexpected one would have to be all of you. I never expected to find inspiration on the internet:D
Whew, that was long winded. Okay, have a great day everyone
09-29-2003, 08:22 AM
Gee, I think it's a good topic. Something I haven't considered. I don't appreciate my tools enough.
I have the VCR and workout equipment. Wouldn't get much exercise in without those at this point.
A pretty well stocked kitchen that is very easy to work in.
A great farmer's market and grocery for fresh foods.
A very health concious and supportive DH.
Good walking shoes.
An excellent hairdresser. I know that sounds odd, but well cut hair gives me a lot of confidence.
Magazines and books that give me a constant source of information and inspiration. I'm in the habit of going to the library pretty frequently. I check out a cookbook or a healthy lifestyle book more often than not. They have a huge selection.
Peggy, you are lucky with your dog. That would be a great. My cats do NOTHING to motivate me. They make me want to take a nap! hehe. Have a good Monday everyone.
09-29-2003, 10:05 AM
Mind if I join in? I've been lurking for a couple of weeks (avoiding this thread for much longer :o ) and am ready to be accountable and get support. :) I've been overweight all my life and it wasn't until my DH came along (giving unconditional support and love) that I've been able to face my issues and take action. Several years ago I lost 80lbs (with another 50 to go) but stagnated for a year or so (but continued being physically active) and then happily became pregnant. Lainey was born just over a year ago and I managed not to lose any weight with her birth :rolleyes:. I have a short term goal to lose ~45-50 lbs. over the next 9 months or so as I anticipate getting pg again and want to at least be back where I was when I got pg the first time (but more important I think, being in good condition as I think the goal is too ambitious). Enough about me!
To answer the tools questions...
I just purchased a heart rate monitor that's helping me really get the most of the limited time I have. That annoying beeping has a way of getting my butt in gear.
My DH is definitely the most important. He gets up 20 minutes before I do so he can get his run in before I go for my walk (with a sleeping baby we both can't go at the same time, like we used to). I can't very well go back to sleep if he's gotten up. Like Linda - DH and I thrive or perish together.
New digital scale. I had one that sounds like it was similar to Peggy C.'s. Numbers were too small to see and if I bent over it changed. I like what the new scale is saying too :D but it seems a little too good to be true so it makes me skeptical. But I think I've lost somewhere around 7.5lbs in 3 weeks (but I think the starting point was a little high because of the old scale). I know I settle into a maybe 1lb./week soon.
Tracking my food is by far the most important thing. I use Weight by Date software a friend gave me that works pretty well but is time consuming until I get most of my regular foods entered in it.
09-29-2003, 10:30 AM
1)Journal - Planning/Accountability/Daily Promises
2)Support - Internet Boards/Hubby
3)Gym - mental and physical well being
4)Inspirational/Informational - some magazines, books, internet articles etc.
The only thing that needs improvement is the mental tapes that play over and over. The negative thoughts that eek there way in, the beating up occasionally, the never get there mentality. This is something I always have to keep in check by stopping it in it's tracks and replacing the message with a positive one.
09-29-2003, 10:44 AM
Welcome aboard, Kim!
My best tools
Gym membership and a hard-earned exercise habit.
Ability to plan and cook healthy meals.
Tools that need work
Journaling...I hate it and never stick to it, yet everyone says I cannot reach goal without it.
09-29-2003, 12:42 PM
1. Planning - I plan all our dinners out a week at a time and plan breakfast/lunch/dinner/snacks out a day ahead. Even if things go off track and I have to go out to lunch or whatever, I already know how many points are available to me.
2. Support system - this board, my supervisor who is watching her food intake, my two best friends who are on WW, DF who is so supportive.
3. Exercise - 2 months now and it seems to be a habit. I like how it makes me feel.
1. I also feel like I can improve on exercise...duration/intensity, etc..
2. Self talk - need to work on being more positive.
09-29-2003, 01:24 PM
I've been avoiding this thread (and this board) because I've fallen "off the wagon" so to speak. I started out September gung ho about exercising, etc. and it has since petered out to nothing. So, I'm going to slowly creep my way back up to the wagon and try to sneak up on it and jump back on before the wagon realizes what I'm doing and takes off without me again :D :rolleyes:
Hence, I'm here.
Tools that work for me:
Planning. I try to plan out the week's dinners on the weekend and get things together for it. Usually lunch consists of a salad and a small taste of leftovers from the night before. Planning and following through are tough now with the change in our schedules and whatnot but we are still trying to stick to it.
New clothes. May sound strange, but I've found that when I buy new clothes I want to work out so I can show them off a little better. Granted, this doesn't help my checkbook (which is a LOT slimmer than me :D ) but it sure does help my self-confidence.
An unlikely tool:
I don't really have any. I guess when I get back on the wagon I'll find something unlikely that is working for me. I'm hoping to find a gym soon to join and I think that will help.
Gotta go - the wagon's not paying attention right now - I'm gonna see if I can jump on without hurting myself!
09-30-2003, 05:52 AM
Welcome Kim and congrats on your loss.
See now that I'm reading all of your responses I realize I have more tools than I thought...which means I hope it will lead to more positive self talk. I mean think of all the good things we're doing that we weren't doing 1 week ago, 1 month ago, 1 or 2 years ago. That is huge!
Zippy I see you made it on the wagon...good for you.:D
09-30-2003, 07:38 AM
Peggy - One place to start on the postive self-talk track is to pat yourself on the back for a really good topic! :) And congrats on the loss...
Kim - Welcome! Congratulations on Lanie! And on committing to becoming an even healthier mom.
Tools that work for me:
1. Journal. It's the biggest one. The physical book (I buy smallish, fun journals at Barnes&Noble) serves as an anchor - especially at work where I leave it out so I can see it. The accountability is huge, the record of what worked and didn't, the space where I write in goals and promises and check them off daily, weekly, monthly.
2. Support system. My DH, some of my friends, this board, and meetings. Knowing that I'm not alone in this journey and knowing that there are people to turn to when it gets hard and/or I get discouraged.
3. Actually paying for workouts. It may be cliche, but it's true. Paying for the gym makes me more motivated to go - after all, I've paid and I should get something for my money! Also, having people to meet up with there (DH, friends, even the people in water aerobics who comment when I haven't been in a week).
Tools that need work:
1. Far and away the biggest - my own self-talk.
2. Workouts, while they've come a long way in the last few months, still have room for improvement - for instance, doing things on my own when plans fall through with others, and settling into a real schedule.
My most unlikely tool:
I guess would be my charm bracelet. Sometimes wearing it is a huge help to reminding myself that I have made huge progress on my journey and that I can choose every moment to make more or to set myself back. (For those who don't know, I buy a charm for every 10 pounds lost... and I have 8 charms!)
ps. Zippy, welcome back on the wagon. :)
09-30-2003, 08:34 AM
Hello. This seemed like a good week to come back. After I took some time off from the board this summer I had a major back-slide. None of my clothes fit anymore, I haven't exercised in weeks and I'm seriously stressed. So I'm back.
This week's thread is perfect because it gives me a chance to evaluate what I'm doing so that I can get myself back on track.
Tools that have worked:
1) Swimming: I have always felt calm and powerful in water, so swimming is a great way for me to destress an exercise at the same time.
2) Cooking: In the past when I have set aside time to cook every evening I have amde great strides in weight-loss. Not only is cooking calming, but I tend to eat healthier when I cook than when I just grab something out. It also covers lunch because I usually have leftovers.(Also helps my pocketbook!)
3) Bags of cut up veggies and a good low-fat dip: When I have these in the fridge I will reach for them first.
4) This board: When I can write things down in a public forum it makes me feel accountable.
Tools that need work:
1) Journaling: I never seem to be able to stick to it for very long. I need to figure out how to incorporate my budget journal, personal journal and food journal all in one.
2) Sleep: It's a pretty simple equation. If I don't sleep well my whole day is messed up. I haven't been sleeping much lately. I think exercise would help.
A clean house: I can't concentrate when the house is a mess, so I can't do my school work or teaching prep and I get stressed. I also can't cook when the kitchen is messy or sleep when my room is messy, so if my house is clean everything else has an easier time of falling into place.
This was good. I needed to put all that down in writing.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot to say I have good motivation to lose in the next few months: I'm probably going to Isreal in December! I'll be doing a ton of hiking and walking there, so I need to be slimmer and more energetic. It is pretty good motivation and an awesome chance.
Thanks for being here.
09-30-2003, 09:03 AM
Hi everyone:) .
I have to agree with Peggy, reading everyone elses tools, I find myself saying, oh yeah I have that too.
I have to find a tool to get me through PMS though. Urgg, I end up coming down on myself so hard right now. Nothing can be right:rolleyes: i end up full of self-doubt and overloaded with insecurity. I question the motivations of my staff and my friends. I end up angry and depressed because I figure the whole world hates me and they are all plotting behind my back. So then, next thing I know, I am comforting with food. I have to say, writing it down makes me feel better. :o And of course, it all passes in a day. But it can be a pretty damaging day(or two).
Sorry for running on there. Its my stumbling block that I can't seem to get over :o
I have a question about journaling. I see several of you mentioned it. How does this work? Do you buy a specific kind of journal? I think that something like that might help me get over the hurdle.
PS I hope everyone has a good day. :)
09-30-2003, 09:24 AM
I agree with what other's have posted about seeing other tools and realizing I have them too.
I'm straddling two journaling tools right now. At home I have the software Weight by Date Pro that a friend gave me that I can track exercise, food, measurements, weight and write a note for each day. It even gives me a little party if I meet my weekly weight loss goal. The exercise part doesn't quite meet my needs since I'd really like to track the info I get from my heart rate monitor (mostly percentage in the target zone) but I just add it in. I sit behind a computer all day at work so before I had this software, I had a pretty extensive excel spreadsheet set up where I calculated nutritional values for the day and I still use it to plan my day. I haven't planned for a few days as it seems redudent (unfortunately can't install the Weight by Date software at work) and I'm finding my calories too high when I enter everything at night. So I need to work on that.
I'm dealing with some issues around whether the weight loss/getting into shape is "worth" it. It was very frustrating to lose so much ground due to pregnancy & new motherhood. (I tell DH it's his turn next time :D) So it's hard to put in all the work it takes me to lose weight just to think I'll be back here again to start all over. But if it were just weight I'd probably not care so much but I hate how it feels to be so out of shape too!
09-30-2003, 09:34 AM
Linda - I started journalling my foods when I joined Weight Watchers. It's one of the foundations of their points program, and they give you a little paper booklet "journal" to track what you ate (and the 'points' for each food), your water and vegetable intake, and your activity. The little weekly paper journals annoyed me because they weren't handy to keep and they're easily lost, so I started keeping track of all those things in a small blank book instead. (WW has since come out with their own 12-week journal notebook, but I still like my own better.)
I use a page a day to track not only everything I eat, how much water I've drunk, my exercise, vitamins, and my weight progress, but also to make daily, weekly, and monthly goals and to record how I am feeling and what challenges I'm facing (and how I plan to deal with them). It's a lot on one page! :) It helps me to have it all in one place, so that I can look back easily and see where things were working and where things weren't, what my patterns are (both good and bad), and to get recipe/meal ideas when I'm bored with the usual suspects.
Hope that helps! :)
09-30-2003, 02:17 PM
I tried to "join in" a few months ago, but found I just wasn't ready.
Now I am. I started WW 3 weeks ago and must say I'm understanding and enjoying the points program much more than I did before. Perhaps it's because I've changed my own perspective. I lost 25 pounds 15 years ago but was never truly happy with where I was or who I was. But that's for another thread... I've lost 4.5 pounds in 3 weeks and I'm happy with that.
My favorite tools?
1. My Palm Pilot! I journal on it, I keep track of my exercise on it. I even have a WW points calculator on it. I find that being able to keep track of my food, weight and exercise in a quick and discreet way keeps me on track.
2. My personal stereo such as my Walkman and my Discman. I use these to listen books on tape while exercising. This really keeps me motivated. I keep coming back 'cause I want to know what's going to happen in the next chapter.
3. Oddly enough, having the ability to cook light and well. If I couldn't continue to cook and enjoy what I was making, I wouldn't make it on this journey.
Lynne, I've always wanted a charm braclet. I love your idea! I may have to steal it.
As far as tools I need to work on:
1. SELF TALK. Definitely. I'd like to be able to enjoy my life and myself in the present. I think this would make the journey to better health much more fun and less stressful.
2. Enjoying exercise. I do try to exercise everyday. I'm just the type that 3-4 days a week doesn't make a difference. I need at least 6 days of at least 45 minutes of exercise before I begin to look or feel significantly different. I have all kinds of little "motivators", but I wish I could just do it because I LIKE it. My father has been an avid exerciser for over 40 years on a daily basis and the poor man still dislikes most of what he does. He does it for his health. He claims that's enough of a reward. I guess for him, it works.
09-30-2003, 02:23 PM
I got my magnet!! I got my magnet!!
Just got back from my lunchtime WI and I lost 1.6 this week to bring me to a total of 75.6 gone, gone, gone! I'm so happy! This is the lowest I've been since probably sophomore year of high school. The leader and I talked about setting a goal as well, probably another
09-30-2003, 05:00 PM
Renee - I've been thinking about a Palm Pilot for Christmas. I think it would be so much easier to track as the day progresses vs. spending time at the end of the day. More accountable too.
09-30-2003, 05:22 PM
I'm still around, though I haven't posted here in ages.
Life took a U-turn back around the holidays, and the net result was that I am now the happy possessor of a brand spankin' new pacemaker :D
This is a GOOD thing - I didn't know how bad I was feeling, til after the surgery.
I've been pretty much stalled in weight loss since January, but 3 weeks ago, it finally started moving again (could it be the increased energy around the pacer???)
Current weight loss is 108 lbs :)
Tools? Let's see...
Journalling - yup. Don't "love" it, but I don't do well if I don't keep track.
Exercise - can't do any upper body stuff for the next 3 months, but I'm walking 2.5 - 5 miles per day, 6 days a week.
Support - my husband, bless his heart, who loves me no matter what. My best friend, who says I am her inspiration - she's even started exercising (a HUGE quantum shift for her). Online boards - the one I frequent most has been so darned inspiring to me. Weight Watchers itself - I love the new FlexPoints program.
Planning - having the right food on hand for the right meals takes the "oh whatever will I have for dinner" baloney right off the table.
I'm starting to talk to myself, these days - Stuart Smalley called 'em affirmations - I'm good enough, I'm pretty enough, and doggone it people like me - NOT. Well, not exactly. But when I hear that hyper-critical voice droning on from the back of my head, I now stop and tell myself what an awesome job I've done, and that I'm continuing to do an awesome job.
congrats to all you losers. Amazing what happens when we stay the course.
09-30-2003, 07:28 PM
Welcome back Kimba!
10-01-2003, 05:15 AM
Welcome back Kimba! And Welcome Renee'!
Janet congrats on the loss and magnet and getting so close to your dream good for you!
10-01-2003, 06:19 AM
delurking to say....
Welcome Back Kimba!
I'm glad things have turned around for you.
10-01-2003, 07:49 AM
Welcome back Kimba and Welcome Renee :D WEE HAA!!!! The boards are picking up...could be a sign of the impending food holidays? ;)
I'm here...hanging in there. It's been busy/hectic, but plans are finally solidifying and I'll be happy when this taping is over and I'm in sunny St Lucia!
10-01-2003, 08:34 AM
This was an excellent article posted on the Lean and Strong board...thought I would share with this crew :D
New Theory Links Stress, `Comfort Food' to Obesity
By Rob Stein
When the going gets tough, the tough (and not-so-tough) often get
hungry. Why that happens has been a mystery.
Although researchers have had clues that there might be some
scientific basis for the notion of ``comfort food,'' the precise link
between stress and eating has been fuzzy.
Now, scientists have developed a model for a biological link between
stress and the drive to eat: Food with lots of sugar, fat and calories
appears literally to calm the body's response to chronic stress.
In addition, research indicates stress hormones encourage formation of
fat cells, particularly the kind that are the most dangerous to
health. That may be at least one reason why obesity rates are
skyrocketing in the United States and many other modern societies.
``In highly industrialized countries, people do apparently seem to
feel more stressed -- more under the gun,'' said Mary F. Dallman, a
professor of physiology at the University of California-San Francisco,
who outlined her theory in a paper to be published in an upcoming
issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. ``And
they certainly are eating a lot more.''
The new theory has been drawing praise from other scientists since it
was posted on the Internet earlier this month.
``It's an important new model,'' said Alan G. Watts, a professor of
neuroscience at the University of Southern California. ``She's brought
together under one roof two parallel processes. This is the first time
anybody's been able to put together a united theory on stress and
energy metabolism. It presents a new way of thinking about this.''
While the relationship between stress and eating is driven by a
complex mixture of emotional, psychological, social and physiological
factors, the new research does appear to explain puzzles that have
long baffled researchers, said Elissa S. Epel, an expert on stress,
eating and fat at UC-San Francisco.
``There's a multitude of behavioral, attitudinal and psychosocial
factors that determine whether humans engage in comfort eating. So it
would be a real distortion to say it's all driven by the stress
response,'' Epel said. ``But this explains mysteries that stress
researchers have been unable to resolve for a long time.''
Scientists have long known that during times of stress, parts of the
brain emit a chemical signal called corticotropin-releasing factor,
which in turn causes the adrenal gland to pump out large amounts of
hormones known as adrenal corticosteroids, including cortisol. These
``stress hormones'' flood the body, producing a wide array of effects
designed to get ready to flee or fight: The immune system gets damped
down. Alertness increases. Heart rate quickens. Activity jumps.
During acute stress -- a car accident, an argument -- a feedback
system kicks in and shuts down this response fairly quickly. But
during chronic stress, the system keeps going, caught in a vicious cycle.
To examine the relationship between chronic stress and food, Dallman
and her colleagues conducted a series of experiments with rats, which
are considered good models for how the same systems work in people.
The researchers studied levels of stress hormones, brain activity and
chemical signals, as well as fat distribution in the rats' bodies,
comparing animals experiencing acute and chronic stress induced by
exposure to cold or being restrained. The researchers also manipulated
some animals' stress hormone levels by removing their adrenal glands,
administering stress hormones or injecting them with the chemical
signals that produce stress hormones.
When the rats were under chronic stress and had high levels of stress
hormones coursing through their bodies, they became very active. They
ingested large amounts of high-calorie lard, eschewing their normal
feed, and drank prodigious amounts of sugar water. They ignored water
containing saccharin, even though it tasted equally sweet. This, in
turn, tended to make the rats develop deposits of fat cells in their
``When you've got animals in the wild, or people in underdeveloped
countries facing, say, a drought, they will turn on their adrenal
corticosteroid system. That will make them run to get food and then
they get food and eat and create stores of fat, which they need to
do,'' Dallman said.
``It works beautifully when there isn't plenty of food around,'' she
said. ``But when there is plenty of food around, like in our society,
where there's a McDonald's on every corner, it gets us into deep
doo-doo, because this is the kind of fat that if it stays on is very
bad for you. It's associated with diabetes and heart disease and stroke.''
The fat cells, in turn, appear to send signals back to the brain,
shutting down the production of stress hormones, which makes animals
-- and people -- feel better and relax until they burn off those fat
But losing weight apparently reactivates the stress system, starting
the process again, said Norman Pecoraro, who works with Dallman.
``You're losing that metabolic signal to the brain that's calming
things down. So you're removing that yourself by dieting. You'll feel
more anxious and won't feel as good and you'll mount this compulsion
system to go get the goodies,'' Pecoraro said.
Other researchers said the work needs to be followed up with
additional studies in animals and people.
10-01-2003, 10:55 AM
Wow - I am so happy to see that I am not the only one who has been avoiding this board - and are now back in the fold!
Welcome back Kimba! I used to wonder what happened to you - you had always posted so regularly and they were fun to read!
I finally went back to WW this past Saturday. I hadn't gone for at least 8 weeks, if not more. It seemed like there were always too many fun things to do on Saturday mornings. Then I found out that 2 friends of mine were going so I tagged along with them.
I like the new FlexPoints system, but would rather not HAVE to eat all 20 points on a given day (which is what the leader said). I had a couple of days this week where I had 2 - 4 points left, so I was looking around for something to eat. I cannot be trusted to do that!
I've used most of my FlexPoints for the week already so I know I have to be careful until Saturday. Does anyone else think that points sure get used up quickly??
Anyway - great topic, Peggy. I realize I have a lot of the tools that everyone has mentioned so here're mine:
Planning my menus. By far.
Willpower and the power to Just Say No when I've reached my point total for the day.
Most Unlikely Tool
My best friend who is around 5' 1" and weighs maybe 100 pounds. We power walk together and she gets me out and makes me want to go out walking no matter what the weather. Half the time it's just a vehicle for us to talk, vent or whatever, but it's kept my exercising up for 2 years now this month. (not to compare my friend to Peggy's dog Otis! :D )
10-01-2003, 12:38 PM
Wow, lots of new and returning faces. What fun. Glad to see you all and hear your stories!
I also am reading everyone else's response to this weeks questions and realize how many tools I have at my disposal. I bow down the the journaling queens among us. I have a hard time with that one. This board helps me to verbalize and solidify my quest, but I should record more for my own information and so I know what is working and what isn't.
One more tool I thought of. My mirror. Nothing quite so gratifying as seeing those slow but sure changes.
Did you all happen to notice this website on another thread? I thought I'd share in case you missed it. Pretty eye-opening. Its a listing of lots of popular chain restaraunts and the nutritional info. for their dishes. No wonder I have a hard time losing when we go out too often! The serving sizes of an order are particularily striking in places like P.F. Changs. DHs favorite dish is supposed to serve 6!
JeAnne, thanks for posting that article. I've noticed in myself that I lose weight when under immediate stress, like needing to study for a test or when my inlaws are due to arrive and the house is a mess, but during times of what they call chronic stress, like when we are moving, or during job transition times I always gain. Maybe being more concious of it will help. (Also, totally different topic... did you ever pick a dress? I'd love to see what you settled on if you could post a link.)
Have a great day guys,
10-01-2003, 12:54 PM
Here's a link to the dress :D
10-01-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by greysangel
Here's a link to the dress :D
(waving hand wildly in the air) What's the dress for? It's beautiful!
10-01-2003, 01:04 PM
I was contacted to be on the Discovery Health Channel Show called "I Lost it"...for the "dream come true" segment of the show they are having dh and i renew our vows on the beach with me in a white "dream" dress. :D
The process has been kinda a nightmare but the taping/show itself should be fun :)
10-01-2003, 02:47 PM
Wow! That's a beautiful dress!
10-01-2003, 04:27 PM
JeAnne, that dress is beautiful!!!:)
10-01-2003, 08:57 PM
JeAnne, thanks for posting that article. Last week, I went to a WW meeting where my all-time favorite leader was talking about just this very thing. I "sort of" knew it already, but having it put into one sensible package was very helpful.
And congratulations on the re-wedding, and on THE DRESS!!! It's lovely - you're lovely - he's lovely - this is gonna be Must-See TV for sure!!!!
thanks for the welcome backs, everyone - I do appreciate them!
Loren, I'm loving the new FlexPoints program. The guilt is gone! And I especially like that I can eat ALL my APs, not just the 4 they used to allow. The Week 1 booklet carefully states that we should consult our doctors if we're regularly earning more than 4. Big whoop - my doc is delighted :)
10-02-2003, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by Gracie
(not to compare my friend to Peggy's dog Otis! :D )
Well they do weigh about the same....but I bet your friend doesn't drool.:eek:
10-02-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Peggy C.
Well they do weigh about the same....but I bet your friend doesn't drool.:eek:
Nor does she sleep with me!! :D
JeAnne, that's so cool about the show! Can you post pictures or even a link to the film on your website when it's ready?
Kimba, now that I've been carefully counting points and measuring portion sizes for a few days, I'm realizing that 20 points isn't that bad. One of my friends took the 35 flex points and added 5 points to every day of the week so she won't feel so hemmed in with the 20 points.
I guess the activity points process is the same as it used to be, but the leader said she won't give us those until week 3 to give us chance to learn the program. Despite the fact that I'm a lifetime member and figured out the program pretty quickly, I'll have to wait to eat them. I've been walking twice a day, too, once at work with a friend at lunchtime and my usual at night with my friends. So I've been kindof hungry at times but I'm right on track and I don't trust myself yet to eat more.
10-02-2003, 06:32 AM
LOL! Loren you are too funny!
Alice thanks for that link...I like that on some of the restaurants (IE PF Chang's) they list how many servings a dish is supposed to be...wild. And eye opening.
Thanks for the article JeAnne I just finished reading it. Very interesting.
10-02-2003, 07:37 AM
OOOOOoooooo, totally gorgeous dress JeAnne! Can't wait to see you in it. Thanks for posting the link.
In rereading some of these posts this week, I think I like being on this "wagon". It's a mutual admiration society with a purpose. Gotta like that!
(Plus, I'm down 2 pounds. yay. Hope they are gone for good.)
10-02-2003, 07:47 AM
Thank you for the info about journalling. I think charting my ups and downs would be very helpful. and now that I am back to normal, things look pretty good right now. I noticed this morning when I was putting on my bra that I was on the tightest hook instead of the loosest:D So I am definetly shrinking...
Thanks for posting the article. I can really see myself in that. I have always been a comfort eater....
HAve a wonderful day everyone....:)
PS Love your dress, JeAnne
10-02-2003, 07:50 AM
Welcome back to the returning folk! Kimba, so sorry to hear that you've had surgery, but I am glad that it's working better for you with the pacemaker!
That article was really interesting, and combined with other articles I've been reading lately about the increase in chronic stress in our society, it really hits home. The key, as always, I guess, is to be mindful and make choices - like exercise - to reduce stress in other, healthier ways.
On the FlexPoints subject, I'm still adjusting to them. I'm trying to remember that just because I *have* them doesn't mean I have to *use* them (this is akin to feeling the need to clean my plate, I think!). I've been trying to think along the lines of dividing them up for each day, as well as trying to limit them to an average of 3 a day. I do like that it takes away the guilt of "reverse-banking".
As for activity, I'm with you, Kimba, my doc would be thrilled if I regularly got more than 4 APs a day! ;)
10-02-2003, 08:35 AM
It's nice to see some familiar faces...old and new :D The kitchen is always open so pull up a chair along with your waterbottle :)
Alice - congrats on the loss! WOO HOO!
I've sort of skimmed through the WW boards that I used to frequent and there seems to be some people having problems with the new program. It could be that it's "new" and it takes time for people to start liking something new, but for me I think it seems very easy to slide down the slippery slope into a binge. A lot of people doing WW already tend to hoarde their points in fear of "running out" by the middle of the day. I think having a set number makes it harder to wrap your mind around spreading it out through the day. The "free" points can also be dangerous. I wish they had sort of put more energy into other areas of the program vs changing the points around. Oh well...I guess I shouldn't talk unless I was going to start going to meetings again!
I've been stressed with the whole upcoming show, but it seems like everything is kind of falling into place now. We have a location, we have a b and b, we have a dress being shipped as well as a kilt jacket. We have pictures gathered and gym manager contacted. Now it's just concentrating on my eating plan. It's funny. I no longer have to worry about activity or the gym...it's a given to me. I only wish my food was like that. There's an evil pumpkin that has made an appearance on my floor and he looks like he's here to stay until Halloween :eek: He's right next to the water cooler and filled with all sorts of goodies. I know that for me I can't have one. One will lead to 1000 little empty wrappers in my garbage and I don't want to go there. My goal is to finish strong and make it through to my vacation. The reward is the vacation where I plan to drink fruit smoothies and eat local seafood and produce until my head explodes :cool: Hopefully by the time I come back, I will have a better picture in my head of what the next step is in terms of trying something different, not worry about losing more weight, go back to a BFL challenge...who knows. What I'm hoping is that if I chose to try something new, I can do it with the positive mindset I have now instead of becoming a scale/results obsessed freak :eek: :D
I will be sure to let everyone know when the show airs. I wouldn't think it would be much before the New year but I could be wrong.
10-02-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by greysangel
I've sort of skimmed through the WW boards that I used to frequent and there seems to be some people having problems with the new program. It could be that it's "new" and it takes time for people to start liking something new, but for me I think it seems very easy to slide down the slippery slope into a binge. A lot of people doing WW already tend to hoarde their points in fear of "running out" by the middle of the day. I think having a set number makes it harder to wrap your mind around spreading it out through the day. The "free" points can also be dangerous.
What am I missing about the program (or do I really want to know!)?? What are "free" points? I really thought the Flex Points was about subtracting points rather than adding them up but otherwise was exactly the same????? And Kimba mentioned eating all her APs not just 4.
Before I had a range of 18 - 23 to spend now it's 20 plus whatever Flex Points I have left in the bank. I did the math and it's exactly the same number of total points as before.
My leader didn't say anything about any of this when she gave us the intro to the new system after class.
Please elaborate! :confused:
10-02-2003, 10:52 AM
Well, I love the Flexpoint system! I like the flexibility it provides. Not as much planning and saving. Maybe it's just me, but I don't obsess as much about my points now.
Anyway, I believe that on the flex point system, you're actually getting about 14 more points per week than before. IF you ate at the top of your range, you had a total of 161 points a week. Now, at 20 points a day plus the extra 35 brings you to a total of 175 points a week. The reality is that it's approximately 100 cals more a day.
I kind of "forget" about my flexpoints and try to eat in my target plus APs. Then if I find I'm extra hungry or an unexpected situation pops up, I'm armed with some extra points to deal with it. Hey, the other night my DH had a bag of Vinegar Chips - YIKES, but I really wanted some, so I ate 1 serving. I had 2 points left, but needed another one, so I charged it to my Flex bank. I try not to save them up and intentionally use them all at once on a splurge. I don't think that's healthy mentally or dietarily. I haven't used all my flexpoints in a week yet, but I'm sure it will happen someday. For some reason, I just don't feel compelled to use them all just 'cause I have them. I really do try to ask myself before I eat anything, am I really hungry or do I just want to eat. Sometimes I eat just to eat, but at least I'm making myself aware of the behavior.
That's an interesting take of the new system. For some reason, it hasn't affected me that way. I feel less of a compulsion to splurge than before. I guess before if I was going to splurge and all my points were gone, I'd figure what the h*ll and just eat. Now I know I can have one serving and still stay with the program. Or if I slip a little, I can account for it with flexpoints, rather than just throwing in the towel and eating to oblivion.
10-02-2003, 10:56 AM
Kimba - glad the pacemaker is helping you feel better! I'll say welcome back too even though I'm new :)
Jeanne - that is very true for me i.e., the candy. If I don't eat any then I'm fine, but once I have the first piece (or cookie etc.) then it's very hard to stop. This reminds me to post a thread on the Other STuff board about candy alternatives for trick-or-treaters.
Can you tell me what BFL challenge is? Not sure of the abbreviation...
Gorgeous dress. Can't wait to see you in it.
Way to go Alice on the 2 lbs!
10-02-2003, 11:44 AM
Loren - Free...I meant "flex" points. Sorry for the confusion. You get a target number instead of a range. And then you get flex points to use any way you want for the week.
Renee - Well I guess that's the beauty of WW...it's sort of flexible enough for most people to do well with it :) I still have an issue with the activity part of the program, but it could also be the leaders I had. Who knows? Most people kinda freak with change of any kind...I remember the uproar over carrots and onions counting as a point. :P I'm all about whatever works for you is the solution :D WW is one of the better commercial programs out there IMO.
Kim - BFL is body for life...it's a book by Bill Phillips that's a basic body building/nutritional primer. It's set up as a 12 week challenge, because before the book, there was a 12 week challenge :D The book advocates working out 6 days a week...3 cardio and 3 weight training sessions. The nutrition is 6 small meals a day consisting of an equal portion (palm/fist) of carb and protein. The focus is on whole grains, lean meats etc. I really like the approach more so than WW...I just haven't lost weight :confused: But hey, I look better!
10-02-2003, 11:51 AM
Kim I've had success in previous years finding little individual bags of goldfish crackers to give out at halloween. That way if I have some left they work in my lunches also.
10-03-2003, 06:42 AM
I'm just stopping in to say hi. I'm so *not* on the weight loss band wagon right now. I just can't get motivated. And I quit my workouts back in June and haven't started back yet. I *did* walk for 10 minutes last night but that hardly counts as a workout compared to what I was doing.
Life is just getting in the way of everything right now. DH and I sold our house in September in order to move closer to town. (I'd been commuting about 2 1/2 hours per day). We had to move last week and our new house won't be done til the end of this month so we are camping at my parents for 3 weeks.:o It is nice to spend time with them, but my time is really not my own when I'm there and I'm not even motivated to change that.
I've even stopped drinking water. :rolleyes: I dunno what is wrong with me. Negative thoughts about myself have started creeping back into my head though so I know I will need to address it soon.
10-03-2003, 07:13 AM
I've been an infrequent lurker on this board, but whenever I stop by, I find interesting stuff here. I've been working on losing weight seriously since about the middle of July. I saw my dietician yesterday, and my new total is 18 pounds. I am very happy. The good results inspired me to try on my Old Navy jeans that hadn't seen the light of day since last winter, and they fit!!! I'm going to be very excited to wear them tomorrow.
My best tools are my dietician, Marilyn Migliore, who has been an absolute godsend, and the lessons I've learned from her book, The Hunger Within (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385487584/qid=1065186777/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_2/102-4667440-3693721?v=glance&s=books&n=507846). I feel so fortunate to be able to work with her because she really seems to understand the emotional issues around overeating and binging, and she's got me on an eating plan that I can really live with. I've been losing slowly (about a pound a week) but I think that's good because it will help me stick to the program on a long term basis.
I'm having difficulties adjusting to the weather changes, and I really need to move my workout inside to the Y, but I haven't faced that yet. I'm going to try to make it there three times next week as a goal. It just gets dark and cold too quickly now to get in a good walk after I get home from work.
Congratulations to those of you who are starting, or restarting, to take care of yourselves and get in shape. And to everyone who has had success so far!
10-03-2003, 07:56 AM
The "binge" mentality is definitely a difficulty with FlexPoints. There's a woman in my meeting who says that the 35 FlexPoints without the previous can-only-use-10-banked-points-in-a-day limitation feels to her like WW is "allowing" her a binge a week. After weeks of talking over this issue with her, it's come down to this -- she has to work on her own thinking to change her own 'binge mentality' - while the program doesn't help her as much as it used to, it also doesn't really encourage her to binge, either.
I think for almost all points ranges, there are more points with FLexPoints than there were with Winning Points. However, it's my understanding that WW is just adding back in the points that they took away in the transition from 1-2-3 Success to Winning Points. That's my leader's take on it, anyway.
Renee - I try and deal with my FPs the same way you are, for the most part. I wish that there were a little more guidance and talk in the meeting about different 'styles' of working with the FlexPoints. Maybe I'll call in and suggest that as a meeting topic, actually.
JeAnne - I'm with you on the candy thing. Same with chips. It's easier not to start than it is to stop at just one.
BuffyKim - Hi! Sorry to hear that you're in a not-so-easy transitional phase right now, but the move sounds like a good thing in the long run. Hang in there and do what you can... and don't beat up on yourself for not doing it all! :)
10-03-2003, 08:11 AM
Hello to everyone rejoining or lurkin:)
As the week rounds out, I realise that it hasn't been that bad. I had my one miserable day dead centre and after that, it was smooth sailing. I had one of my best runs ever yesterday morning:D And stuck to my plan, except for the smartie and garlic bread day... :o
This weekend, I am going to pick myself up a journal and try it out. Thanks to everyone for the advice:)
Have a good weekend
10-03-2003, 08:42 AM
Hi Buffy Kim :)
Repeat after me: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU (me if youre repeating :D ). There is nothing wrong with you. Life happens. Stuff comes up...some things are easier to deal with than others and you never know how something is going to affect you. I can't believe how much this stupid tv taping has affected my desire to eat my face off. Rationally I know it's not a big deal...I've already done the work, so to speak. But I'm fighting some serious internal sabateurs.
You can bet your booty that if I was in a position where I had to live with mom for 3 weeks, I would probably gain 5 pounds. You're maybe feeling out of sorts because there is not much you can control right now. But the thing is you *can* control what you eat. You may not be able to exercise, but you can make a decision to eat moderately.
10-03-2003, 12:22 PM
Well, as long as everyone else is checking back in, I will too. I just re-joined WW Online this morning (grrr, had to pay the sign up fee again, grrr...) because I have gained a little. Only 5 pounds (some of it from vacation last month, some just life), but the main reason I decided to start doing WW again was because I feel like I still need to be on a program. While I am eating very healthfully, mostly thanks to CL and the stuff I have learned from the BB, I just need more structure. It actually helps me to relax. I was dreading my weekly weigh-ins MUCH more in maintenance than I did when I was trying to lose, and that kind of thinking was wreaking havoc on my eating during the week. I was eating whatever the heck I wanted all weekend after WI on Friday, and then paying penance M-Th and dreading what the scale would tell me. It wasn't good.
Additionally, after maintaining (mostly) for well over a year, I am used to my new body. Which is good. But now that I am used to looking at myself, I feel like I could stand to lose a little more. So I am going to shoot for 10 more pounds,including the 5 I gained. I just need to regain control.
I think I am going to like the FlexPoints program. I think it gives you some freedom to handle things that come up, and not stress about upcoming events (I still have to plan, but I don't have to obsess). My main issue right now is that WW online is treating me like I am maintaining, not trying to lose again. So it's not letting me enter a new goal weight, and I think it's giving me the wrong number of points. Anyone doing WW online who has any ideas?
Kimba, you "sound" great. It's good to hear from you!
10-03-2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by RebeccaT
I was dreading my weekly weigh-ins MUCH more in maintenance than I did when I was trying to lose, and that kind of thinking was wreaking havoc on my eating during the week. I was eating whatever the heck I wanted all weekend after WI on Friday, and then paying penance M-Th and dreading what the scale would tell me. It wasn't good.
That's exactly where I was and why it took me so long to go back to WW but I finally made it last week and I am looking forward to going again tomorrow morning. I've been journalling and staying within points all week and I am hoping to see some progress tomorrow morning.
I am going to have to be more judicious with my Flex Points as they were all gone as of last night (who knew a small Strawberry Banana Blizzard or whatever Friendly's calls it was 9.5 points! :eek: ) so all I have today are the 20 points. Hey I'm giving myself credit for trying to make a good choice when I was out with everyone from our Mother-Daughter Book Club. Everyone else had hot fudge sundaes. Thank goodness for Dotti's website. I'm also giving myself credit for looking it up and counting it. :D
10-03-2003, 02:15 PM
10-03-2003, 02:19 PM
Hey I'm giving myself credit for trying to make a good choice when I was out with everyone from our Mother-Daughter Book Club. Everyone else had hot fudge sundaes. Thank goodness for Dotti's website. I'm also giving myself credit for looking it up and counting it.[/B][/QUOTE]
See Loren, this is exactly why I think the program works! Instead of just going to Friendly's and saying "well, I don't have any points left anyway, so I might as well..." In an abstract way, I think it programs us to eat more like naturally thin people do, but with the structure that we need. They don't eat the same number of calories every day. Somedays are high calorie days and some are low cal days. It's the weekly total that counts.
10-03-2003, 04:58 PM
You guys are so awesome. The support here is never ending. You have motivated me to get moving. JeAnne, as usual, you made me feel better and clarified things for me. There are some things I can control in this situation. Now I am motivated to do so. (And J, when you get a chance, point me in the direction of the threads discussing the tapings, I've missed so much!!!)
I may even look into WW online. As much as I hate to admit it, WW is the only way I consistently lose weight. I have tried my own deal and I just cannot be trusted:p
Thanks for welcoming me back into the fold.
Great to see everyone! Yay Rebecca for starting back!
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