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For awhile now, I have been contemplating returning to school to pursue a masters in a field totally different than my current profession. (I am a financial professional for a NPO, and have been in the finance field for about 7 years now).
I would be interested in hearing, if you enjoy your job? Or is it just a pay check??
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kwormann
02-02-2001, 07:08 PM
Interesting question right now! I am currently not enjoying my job...I teach first grade....but I love teaching! Sound strange???
I am not cut out for first grade, but enjoyed the upper grades and will enjoy them again when I go back, so to answer your question (in a round about way), I enjoy my profession!
I think the only thing I would enjoy more is being a food writer (I also have a journalism degree).....
What are you thinking about pursuing? (If I may ask?)
Kim http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
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RobinC
02-02-2001, 07:25 PM
I am a accountant/consultant for a large accounting firm. I truly enjoy what I do, but I have not always enjoyed the work environments in which I have been employed. I decided several years ago that I was not going to stay in any work environment that was negative or caused me to dread going into to work each morning. I became a much happier person when I realized I really like what I do and not to let a negative work environment affect my own attitude.
I am currently working for a client that requires me to be out of town about 3 days a week. While I would prefer to be able to stay in town, I also prefer to have interesting work.
If anyone does not feel satisfied with what she is doing and would like to explore other career options, I say DO IT. It is a rare person who is passionate about what she does to earn a paycheck. It never gets to be a better time to go back to school, it only gets more difficult. Going back to school to earn a post-baccalaureate certificate (basically a second bachelors degree) was the best thing I ever did. I am one of the older new staff people at the accounting firm I work at (at the crusty old age of 30 http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif ), but I love what I do.
I was thinking about dual degrees in English and Education. I would like to start off doing some technical writing and then teach High School or junior college English classes.
Thanks for your postings Kim and RobinC!
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Good topic to reply to. I am currently a vet assistent, and plan to become a vet. Maybe ER, i'm not sure bout that yet. If you love to work with animals and help them, then this is a great occupation. You deal with animals all the time. The schooling is long and you need to be determined, but it's worth the work. To get a professional degree, at least 8 years are needed. It depends on specialty too. Do you like large or small animals? outdoor/indoor work? There are choices. There are also community colleges or post-secondary options for vet courses. Not to mention that there is a career ladder that includes animal caretakers, vet techs, assistants,.... Look at your interests, hobbies, and listen to what you feel is right to do at the time. But most importantly, have fun w/ whatever you do. :-)
~mac
MaryH
02-02-2001, 09:26 PM
Kim,
I had to laugh when I read your post because when I graduated from college I spent a year as a teacher's assistant at a middle school (grades 6-8) with an ESL teacher. I really enjoy 7th graders, but I know there are teachers who you could not pay anything to work with that age group. (hormones and all, he, he, he.) As for me I tried working with 3-5 year olds and could not stand it. (At least with a 12 year old I KNOW when they are not listening to me and can work with that.) So having said all that, after that year I knew I would go to graduate school and do one of 3 things - law school, teaching credential program, or PhD is research psychology.
Well, I choose the first one (which just goes to show how many brain cells I killed while in college http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif). And to finally actually answer the question posed - I DO enjoy my current job - I conduct hearings concerning disciplined state employees and decide whether the discipline is appropriate. Always something new and much less stress than being a litigator. (And some would say its the same as being in a room full of 7th graders, anyway!!)
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Laura
02-02-2001, 10:44 PM
I have a love/hate relationship with my job. I enjoy the intellectual challenge and the flexibility it gives me (I should mention that I am a part-time attorney), but I don't necessarily find it rewarding. I have been teaching english part-time at a community college and find that very rewarding, but the pay limits me. My goal is to continue to practice law another 3-5 years and then go into teaching for good. Would I do it all over again, no. But live and learn. I'm only 38; I figure I still have a couple careers ahead of me.
SETH885315
02-03-2001, 12:20 AM
well, i work full-time, but only to afford college. it's not a profession or anything, and i don't LOVE going to work, but i don't hate getting out of bed in the morning, either, and i think there's something to be said for that.
gee, that was kind of a wishy-washy reply, eh?
seth
sneezles
02-03-2001, 12:24 AM
Dare I write that I love my job! My "job" has been for the past 21 years to raise three boys and you couldn't pay me to re-enter the work force!!! I realize that I have been very fortunate to be able to do this but since I don't have a degree and my previous work experience was 15 years in retail...I'd rather die than to go back. Now we do own a bar (beer joint) and I enjoy that emensely-just got home, in fact, but you'll never see me go out and "earn" a living again!
kwormann
02-03-2001, 03:25 AM
Now, Oprah says you should find a job you love, that can be your passion, and dont worry about the money you might make.
Of course, look who is saying that......
Kim
Lauren
02-03-2001, 06:34 AM
Hey, I'm starting a new job on Monday! Can you tell that I'm excited? I'm in marketing communications and was laid off from my previous employeer in November. It actually was a good thing that I was laid off. I was very underpaid, bored, and not challenged at all. I was a stay-at-home Mom for almost nine years before re-entering the job market two years ago. So, this new position is a big step up for me professionally. It's a bigger company, so the salary is higher, the benefits are better, and most importantly, I'll have more vacation! So, the answer to the question is I really enjoy my profession and hopefully will love this new opportunity!
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hlao23
02-03-2001, 07:10 AM
Hi! I quit my job two years ago to persue a Master's degree. I didn't totally change fields but returning to school was definately worth it for me.
I did a combination of counseling and case management for four years and found it very frustrating. I'm back in school (I'm 31, BTW) and almost finished with my Masters of Social Work. I am working at an assistantship doing research on prevention/intervention programs for alcohol, tobacco and other drugs. This postition will become a full-time job in about a month.
I really like my job (and my co-workers - which I also think is very important). I don't think I would call it a passion tho'. I take care of that part by taking dance and art classes and working in community theatre. I don't want to teach (nor starve)so I couldn't see pursuing any of those as a profession http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif.
mightyh
02-03-2001, 08:14 AM
I love my job.... I work as a part-time Medicaid policy analyst via telecommute (cross-country). I absolutely LOVE the subject--find politics and policy, especially health policy fascinating. I'm a health nerd http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
We just moved this summer and my old job (where I used to work full-time, in the office) allowed this arrangement with no problems. It's worked out great for me so far. They don't require me to be available certain hours, just whenever I can fit work into my day, as I'm busy with a 1 year old.
Anyway, when I was in the office I enjoyed my co-workers in my unit for the most part, but HATED the office politics constantly going on. So this new arrangement is the best of both worlds--I avoid hearing the constant complaining and maneuvering at the office, but still get to do my work which I totally enjoy.
I was at a terrible job right after college and only lasted 6 months there, cause they treated me so poorly, as if I had no education. I went directly to my current job where I was given so much more responsibility, control over my own direction, etc right off the bat and it's grown tremendously from there. For me, a big part of liking my job is having the respect and trust of my boss and clients. Moral: if your job does not make you happy/interest you--get out of there and find something that does. Life's too short.
Andrew
02-03-2001, 08:43 AM
I'm a contractor for a Dot Com company and find it to be the most rewarding job I've ever held. Everyone at Corp is a Class Act! It's the only Company I've been around that has examples of excellence starting at the top and trickling down through the ranks.
julia
02-03-2001, 10:07 AM
I just started a new job - I'm a secretary (perhaps the politically correct term is now admin assistant) and I really like it. It's not so much the job itself, but the environment I'm in and the people I work with. I had a job that I quit after a year and took the summer off to temp - I hated that job and knew it within the first month and stayed because of the money. When I quit it, I felt like a weight had been lifted off of me.
Natasha
02-03-2001, 10:56 AM
I m a lawyer and love it. How weird is that? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif I don t dread getting up in the mornings to go to work (well, sometimes it s a bit hard to get out of a warm bed, but that s normal!). It s challenging, flexible, and most definitely rewarding. It doesn t generally involve crazy hours, I have the coolest boss, and most of my colleagues are simply awesome. Plus it s close to home.
hhcowgirl
02-03-2001, 01:27 PM
Natasha, you always inspire me! Just as I was slogging away at my evidence reading and wondering if it would all be worth it, I read your post and it brightened my day! By the way, my "job" is to go to law school, and no I don't enjoy it at all and am ready to get out!!
AndreaU
02-03-2001, 02:39 PM
After substitute teaching for 2+ years, I finally landed a full-time (though temporary) teaching position. I'm finally in the same place every day (though I can't just wake up and decide I don't feel like working that day). It's a 5th grade class and so far I love it. There are specific moments I don't exactly love, but the kids are great. They're old enough to talk to about cool things but they're still young enough to just be kids.
Kerri
02-03-2001, 02:55 PM
Do I like my job? Hmmmm, I will try not to use this to vent my frustrations.
Not really. I am a research assistant, aka, research tech. I have been working in my current position for about a year and 2 months. I never really liked it, but in the beginning I thought it was just that I didn't understand what was going on. Now I am pretty sure I dont like it. There are a couple of different reasons why I don't like my job. One is the job itself. I have decided that I am a glorified dishwasher and after getting my Masters in microbiology, that is kind of frustrating. I am not important and would think it was so cool if only I got business cards. I don't get paid very much, less than a teacher and no summers off! Plus, working for the state sucks! The people I work with are nice, but frustrating. My boss has a different organizational system then I do (I'm organized and he is not) and it drives me crazy! Plus, the reseach I am doing is not really what I went to school for.
I am trying to decide what to do because here in Dallas, there are not a lot of options for me. I have thought about going to law school because I think I would be good at it and I would like to run for public office one day. Lately, I have also been really interested in nutrition, but am not sure what I can do with that.
Anyways, that is my story. Hope I didn't ramble too much.
Three years and two days ago (yes - I'm counting!) I quit my "career" as a VP of a huge travel company. They were going to need me to spend more time traveling (and I was doing a lot already) and to move to LA (I'd lived in southern CA years ago and don't want to go back - no offense to anyone in CA. I'm just happy being back home on the east coast). So, I made the big decision just to leave and see what happened. Fortunately I had some savings to carry me through till I figured out what I wanted to do. I moved from NYC to WDC where I want to be and have since become a freelance writer and so far (cross fingers) am doing OK. No, I don't make anywhere near the salary I used to, but I'm so much happier and have more time for a life outside of work. It is very hard to motivate myself some days however. But in the long run, I do love my job and don't miss the long hours, office politics, nasty bosses etc. And now, when I travel, it's for my own pleasure! As they say - life is too short. Have some fun while you're here! Louise
I really like my current job. I'm a loan officer in a Credit Union. Before I started in this field I taught special education to children and adults with severe/profound disabilities. Although I loved my students, my job was frustrating and stressful. I am so glad that I changed careers and only wish I hadn't waited so long!
If you don't like what you're doing now keep looking! You spend way too much time at work to not be happy there!
Lisa W
02-03-2001, 07:11 PM
Do I like my job? It's ok. I've worked at worse places. (Don't get me started! LOL) For the past four and a half years I've worked as a secretary for insurance adjusters. The first two years were nice - it was a small company and in our branch there was myself and one other adjuster. Then we were bought out by a bigger company and two months after that we merged with an even bigger company (we're now the largest across Canada). So now it's me, another secretary and three adjusters (still a pretty small office). Myself and my original boss are the only ones who say 'good morning' or 'have a good weekend', etc. The manager smokes, curses, farts, burps and scratches himself constantly in front of us - it's disgusting!! Moral is really low and it really bums me out sometimes. I really don't mind the job - it's my co-workers I guess.
Well, me and the hubby are planning to have another child soon - we already have a two year old boy. I'm thinking of maybe becoming a part-time stay-at-home-mom. I wouldn't mind working two or three days out of the week and staying home with the kids the rest of the time. I've even thought about going back to school. Maybe becoming a Pastry Chef! Who knows! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
I work for the court and this was something I really strived for. I would that the last time I tried to get in, I went on over 20 interviews and got turned down alot. I cant tell you how much I thought it was me, and in some instances it probably was. When I got in (Aug 2000), I was told it was very hard to get in. Where I was before, there was alot of low morale and nit picking and no chance to advance. I feel much better now, the people are nices, and I really think persistance pays!
Hi JLS,
Do yourself a favor and pursue your dreams. A little over ten years ago, I quit my job managing an auto insurance claims office in Los Angeles to return to graduate school. Life had finally taught that money didn't matter if you were so stressed out that you couldn't enjoy life. As luck would have it, I decided to pursue my interests and backgrounds in Third World studies and education. At the time, there was a predicted shortage of Education professors and a need for people to work overseas. Well, five years after I started my program, the field collapsed as states across the country began to waive the Education degree as part of the Teacher Certification process. A Dean at the University of Colorado called me when he received my application for a teaching post and told me that I was one of over 800 applicants. At that time I was wondering if I had made a major mistake.
Then I started looking for any type of employment. I landed in a Federal government agency, where I was hired because their WordPerfect expert had just retired and they needed someone who knew the word processing program. It wasn't ideal at first, but it was a paycheck. Eventually my boss noticed that I pick up computer programs very quickly, and I was suddenly doing database design, computer graphics work, and computer support. I was pretty much allowed to "do my own thing." In the meantime, I was developing an introductory course on the Medicaid program, because there was no training whatsoever being done at our agency. The Medicaid program went over so well, that my boss let me work on whatever project I wanted. I then began work on a series of training programs on the health problems and difficulties accessing health care of minority populations. While I still do some of the other stuff (graphics, support, etc.) most of my job involves minority health work. It has been amazingly rewarding. I have often been told that someone started a cancer screening outreach program or designed a program more effectively because of what they learned in one of my classes. The agency is now much more focused on minority needs than before. At any rate, I never thought I would be in this place in life. I make a bit less than I did in the insurance business, but I initially took an $80,000 cut in pay. There were times when I doubted myself, but I can now say in retrospect that it was all worth it. People who told me a decade ago that I was nuts, now tell me that they're glad I had the guts to move on. So . . . all of this is to say, follow your dreams. None of us know how long we will be on this Earth, nor do we often know why we are on this Earth. In my mind, the most important thing you can do is have the courage to take the risks necessary to find out why you are here. And no, I don't miss the money at all. Good luck!
MrsReber
02-04-2001, 08:23 AM
I have a paralegal degree. I find law fascinating, but I know I don't have what it takes to be a lawyer- nor do I really want to practice law, although I'd love to obtain a law degree. I have been working as a Contract Administrator for 8 years now in different fields. Most of my background is in the oil industry, working on trading floors at an investment bank and two very large oil companies. Well, as much as I loved the work and the exciting environment (and the $$), I decided that 14-16 hours a day, including my commute, was taking way too much time from my home life. I took my time and found a job much closer to home. I am still working on contracts, but now it's for procurement in a very large energy company. Love the atmosphere, love the people, but the pace is alot slower than what I'm used to. I "only" put in a 9 hour day at the office now and I feel guilty about leaving at 4:30, but I love being home at a decent hour and spending time with my husband. Oh, and the best part is that they actually offered me more $$ than what I was making, although I would've made the move for less. I have learned alot, though, in the past 8 years. I don't like working directly for lawyers (no offense to the lawyers) I just prefer to work more on my own and defer to the lawyers when necessary. The lawyers appreciate this, too, since I don't badger them with menial stuff. I also learned that a job is simply a means for survival in most cases. I don't know that many people who are in love with their jobs, but we all understand that we have to work. We just try to find the right environment for ourselves and we try to do something that we can at least enjoy. Life is too short to make work our number on priority.
The stories posted here are great.Mac, I envy you. I didn't have the stamina to go through all that schooling, but I loved working with animals. I was a vet tech at one time, too. I loved it, but the pay was really bad where I was. I needed more money for college so I had to leave there and take another job. Good luck!
JHolcomb
02-04-2001, 12:35 PM
I've been out of school for a year and a half, and I still don't know what I want to do. I've been working as a temp for about a month,and so far I hate it, but it's only until May when my husband graduates w/Masters in computer science and we move (I can't wait! I hate this town so much).
I graduated with a BA in Anthropology, and I know that I don't want to persue that any longer. I'm not good at many things that are "useful" (by useful I mean profitable). I want to do something creative-I think that I would like to do something related to historic preservation, which is funny because that's exactly what my sister in law wants to do, and I feel weird doing that because I don't want to be a "copycat."
Anyway, I guess my answer to your question is no, I hate my job, it is just a paycheck (and not much of a paycheck), and if I don't get back into school really soon my brain is going to waste away (my ability to spell, obviously, has been the first thing to go). The problem is that I don't know exactly what I want to do or how to go about finding that out. I envy my husband because he knew without a doubt what he wanted to do and has his Master's at 24 yrs old, which is where I thought I'd be myself at this age, but I'm not and am so frustrated. The worst part of it is that I feel like my family thinks that I wasted a awful lot of time and money going to school (I went to a very good, very expensive university)to "just be a temp." Ugh.
Hopefully, though, when I'm asked this question two or three years from now I'll be able to say "you know what-I DO like my job."
lsdesign
02-04-2001, 12:51 PM
Last year at this time I had gone back to work full time after 9 years of being a stay at home mom. I knew going in that an ad agency was not my cup of tea but my DH was out of work and we needed the money. I had been in advertising pre-grad school and never liked the type of people, politics and long hours of devotion that were required. And boy was my gut right! I was an art director but the only thing I got to direct was the size of asterisks on selling sheets for a pharmaceutical client. In addition, my boss's management style was SHAME. You had to do things his way and laugh at all his jokes. If you didn't you'd get called into his office to get some shame put on you for incidental things. Every day I prayed as I walked down the hall to my office. And then he found a way to get rid of me, I was put on probation but I knew his mind was made up about me so I was let go. It was one of the happiest days of my life although I haven't been able to get over the beating my confidence took at the hands of a bad manager. I still have dreams about it. I am looking for work now as we speak. One thing that did help though was going through a program that identifies your giftings and skills that I took this summer. It reinforced things I knew about my abilities and what I like to do and drew attention to others I had dismissed. I would recommend this to anyone who is stuggling with who they are and what they should be doing with their lives. It was not cheap but it was worth it.
patrice
02-04-2001, 08:54 PM
I agree with LSB, whatever you do, you better have a good time. I teach fourth grade and whoop it up everyday with the nine year olds. Who you work with and interact with are also pretty darn important. This is my first day at this BB and it is awesome.
sneezles
02-04-2001, 09:04 PM
Okay, so am I the ONLY ONE?
While I never considered myself a dinosaur...I am beginning to wonder! Please let me know that I am not the only person to stay home with their kids! While I enjoy adult conversation, as previously mentioned, I would never give up the past 21 years, not for anything the "work force" has to offer. Please tell me I am not alone! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Laura
02-04-2001, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by sneezles:
[B]Okay, so am I the ONLY ONE?
B]
Sneezles, I know you are not the only one. There are many SAHM's on this board. I should mention that if I had the opportunity to stay home with my kids I would do it in a heartbeat. I think it is great that you did and loved every minute of it.
kwormann
02-04-2001, 09:13 PM
Well Sneezles, if we could afford it, Id stay at home, or work part time in a minute. We dont have kids, so I guess I feel (if we could afford it) I dont have a good "excuse". I have so many interests Id love to pursue and Id love to spend my time volunteering, etc. I dream about that day, but I dont think DH would approve.
Kim
Chef Cindy
02-04-2001, 09:58 PM
This thread has inspired me. At the end of 1999 I left a job in the high tech field (I didn't have a high paying position). This job and my manager sucked the life out of me and I truly believe if I didn't quit I would have gotten gravely ill or worse.
Since then, I have gone into business for myself as a personal chef. I can be creative and I like my boss!! Although there are a different set of challenges, I didn't want to be eighty years old and wish that I had given this a shot. Even if things don't turn out the way I hope, I still feel good that at least I gave it a chance and didn't let my job and boss suck out every piece of my soul. I have friend who is a breast cancer surviver and she told me that cancer was the best thing that ever happen to her. She no longer takes for granted the time she has or the people she cares about. I try to remember this when things aren't going the way I would like them to. Have any of you read Tuesdays with Morrie? A good book for all, but especially those who are sitting on the fence. Just a thought.
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cryskie
02-04-2001, 10:17 PM
I am a registered dietitian, currently working for the WIC program (Women, Infants, and Children). I love the nutrition aspect, but the environment is taxing. Long hours, all day with screaming kids (literally--I have to poke their fingers to check hemoglobin), and little pay. I'll do this or something else while DH finishes school (communication design major). Then it's my turn again, and I'll be off to culinary school! So it helps to know that this is just a stepping stone. I can't wait to apply nutrition and culinary arts together!
JLS, go for it!
Crystal
cat17715
02-04-2001, 11:11 PM
Teachers and Lawyers and college people oh my. LOL. I am a self educated person and I'm in retail. Yes, that lovely world that makes your whole life stop at Christmas time. And I can honestly now that I have switched companies that I love it. I used to work for a clothing store, in a management position and did that job for 10 years with the same company. I needed a change and went with a smaller company which deals in craft supplies. I'm still management but I think because I love crafting I love helping customers find there needs and I get to learn new crafts daily. My family is really scared though. They don't know just how much STUFF this house can hold. LOL. So to make them comfortable I leave my credit cards and check book at home.
Sneezle you are definately not alone. I have been a stay at home mum for the past 20 years with a little bit of substitute teaching experience along the way. I loved every minute of it! I am grateful I taught a bit because now I need to supplement our income as our 2 girls are off to post secondary education. Frankly I wouldn't do it if we didn't need the money although I am good at it sand like the kids I am just a homebody at heart.I really appreciate and understand the dilemma women today face. It is difficult to get into the work force if you don't work at all when your kids are little. I do think some people who say they have no choice do if they are willing to let some things go , simplify their lives and make a few sacrifices.
DeniseB
02-05-2001, 01:39 AM
I, have also been a stay at home mom for the last 16 years. I am so glad I had the chance to do that even though it meant we have had to tighten our belts a bit. Before kids I was finishing my degrees as well as teaching and waitressing. I also worked with Cambodians just arriving to the states: assisting with their adjustment to life here and teaching English.
After kids I wanted to have my time free for them, but I did alittle here and there for extra money. I have worked with International students programs and hosted many students. I have tried alittle retail but, didn't like it. Now I teach cooking in my home and do alittle catering.
As you can see, I try to find jobs that I enjoy and can set my own hours etc. I think it is very important that you enjoy your work, although at times we all must endure till we can get a job we really enjoy. Soon, I will be figuring out what to do with the rest of my life. I will need to work more to help pay for my kids' college. I haven't any idea what I will do but, I 'm sure it won't be a typical job.
JLS, hope you find something you can really enjoy!
MrsReber
02-05-2001, 07:36 AM
I am envious of all you stay at home moms! I just honestly know that we could not afford it where we live. We don't live in a swank neighborhood or anything, but the taxes have gone way way up due to all the land development and my husband couldn't find work in the area that would pay enough for us to pay the mortgage and all the bills (and we don't have that many bills!).
LSDesign- at my last job, I was about to be put on probation for (you'll love this) NOT coming in on weekends after I would work a 65-70 hour week. I told them I'd love to come in to work, but then they'd have to send someone to my house to cook, clean, do laundry, and do my food shopping. "probation" is just a way of them covering themselves- I totally understand how that can destroy your confidence and self worth. No matter what I did or how many hours I put in, I never got so much as a thank you from the horrible stuffed shirt management.
My sister went to one of those weekend courses that was mentioned. She got a lot out of it, but is still not sure how to apply it. She'd love to be a SAHM, too- she did cut down on hours at work in order to spend more time with her kids, but she does have to work for them to make ends meet. They're trying to come up with a solution so she can stay home, but it's not always as easy as it seems.
Danielle
02-05-2001, 08:08 AM
I love my job. It definitely has it's challenges, but at the end of the day I'm thankful to be in the field that I hoped I'd be in when I graduated from college. I have a bachelor of arts degree in English Writing, but during my last year of school I discovered I was interested in graphic design. So I ended up creating my own graphic design minor (geared towards designing layout for publications rather than animation or graphic illustration) and stayed an extra year in school. My first job ended up being at a loan guarantee company (mostly administrative, but a small element of desktop publishing involved). But six months later I saw an ad in the paper for a desktop publishing position. I applied for it and got the position, and now I design publications for Wisconsin Medicaid as well as other state health care programs. I'll be celebrating my two-year anniversary here next week, and I couldn't be happier. I love my coworkers, and their zaniness and creativity make up for all the hassles we have to deal with our customer. I have so many friends from college who have jobs now that don't even relate to the field that they studied in, so I count myself really lucky that I'm right where I can to be careerwise. I don't make tons and tons of money, but I'd rather do I job that I love than do something that I hate just to get more money.
"Do what you love, love what you do, and the world will come to you."
emilycat
02-05-2001, 08:26 AM
Chef Cindy,
I'm intrigued by your decision to try out the personal chef business...did you have any formal training prior to this? How did you begin to establish your name?
I can just imagine that such a job would be so consistently inspiring! I hope it works well for you http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Emily
Gina O
02-05-2001, 09:06 AM
I am in my third professional position in the field of disability law. I started my most recent job 2 months ago. While I really enjoyed aspects of my previous job as a lobbyist, I feel that my current job as a trainer/consultant gives me a great deal more opportunity for advancement. Part of the job requires that I obtain expertise in information technology, which has always interested me a great deal. I firmly believe in doing work you enjoy. Even though I work to live,(not live to work) I would never stay in a job that I disliked.
My SO just took a 30K pay cut to work his dream job. He has never been happier in his life and I am very happy for him. Gina
lsdesign
02-05-2001, 09:10 AM
Thanks MrsReber, for your support. We can barely make ends meet and sometimes not at all. But when I tell my DH that I'll go get any old job he insists that being with the kids is more important and it is. You really don't get any credit or glory from it in today's world though. I was even turned down for a job last fall because the manager thought that I couldn't take the office pressure after being out of it for 9 years. Of course he was male and has no clue what it is like to run a part time business from home and take care of the kids, house, cooking etc. ALL at the same time with many interruptions!!
Leanne
02-05-2001, 09:36 AM
I like my job fine - I'm a research scientist. I have alot of freedom - 6 weeks a year in vacation. I make my own hours. I can work half time for a month (with 1/2 the pay) if I want to take a big vacation. I wear what I want to work - jeans & sweatshirts.
Is this my ideal job - probaly not. I'd love to be an artist or photographer. & really I'd love to be an archeologist - looking into ancient art. We travel alot & it is usually based around ruins, ancient art, etc.
Maybe one day...
I do the art & photography on the side as it is, but not as much as I would like. Part of my fear is that if I was doing it for a living, I wouldn't enjoy it as much. So for now, everything is just a hobby & my job allows me to do these things.
jms0310
02-05-2001, 09:37 AM
I've never posted to this board before so hopefully I'm doing this correctly! This topic is so interesting because I am in the process of going back to school full time (and working full time). I have switched my path so many times I cannot count and I am very discouraged at ever really knowing what I want to do. I am going to finish my bachelor degree (I have almost 2 years)in English and hopefully go to law school. I am 24 years old and am worried that I will be older than everyone else. I am also concerned about all the debt that I will be facing. It is such a difficult decision! Thanks for listening.
luv2cook
02-05-2001, 09:44 AM
Well, I am in the legal field also but as a court reporter. I do freelance work only, no court work. I also do realtime (which is like closed captioning but more verbatim.) I used to love my job, going to different places every day, seeing new people, learning about new things - and I've learned a lot!
But over the last several years, the industry has changed. Contracting has come in, new rules were established that basically gave me a pay cut, right along with the contracting. I mean, I haven't had but a 10-cent raise since I started almost 12 years ago.
Also, because of improved technology lawyers/paralegals/secretaries/the public think that all we have to do is take it down and print it out. NOT. If it's realtime, research has to be done, job dictionaries created, extra stress to write and make it readable for someone else. A lot depends on the lawyers and the witness - is it technical info, like chemical names, oil field terminology, etc., did they talk over each other, is there an accent, an interpreter, etc.
The transcript then has to have beginning and ending pages created, appearance page, an exhibit and examination index and be read word-for-word, line by line edited, proofread and printed. Technology has made it easier for me to do readback - instant, that is. I can ask questions about something I don't understand and provide instant rough draft to the attorneys who ask for it. I can also cover meetings or basically anywhere you need a transcript.
Also, the software and support can cost you a small fortune. My first set cost me $15,000. My second set was $12,000 and my third set was $6,000. Oh, and I just got a bill for my support contract - $530! ugh.
The thing that irritates me the most, tho, are the $$ comments. We are mostly independent contractors. We pay our own expenses on everything and self-employment tax. What is billed is not just the transcript, it's admin fees, exhibit copying and god knows what else AND I only get a percentage of it, not what is on the invoice.
My income depends on how much work is out there, quality of work and how much I want to work, too. These last two months have been horribly slow, for instance. No paycheck, month is the same. I'm used to it, tho.
So why am I still in it? Because I haven't figured out my second career and I won't make any change until I do. I have to be passionate about what I do or I know I won't be good at it. So until then, I'll still report and try not to kill any attorneys in the process http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
[This message has been edited by luv2cook (edited 02-05-2001).]
Leanne
02-05-2001, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by jms0310:
I am 24 years old and am worried that I will be older than everyone else.
My DH is 35 (soon to be 36) & will finish law school this may - Finally!!! He has been going at night for 4 years. So, most likely you won't be older than everyone else - especially if you do it at night. Also, alot of jobs will pay for your school while you're there. Just something to consider. Good luck.
hhcowgirl
02-05-2001, 10:07 AM
JMS--
I am a second-year law student at a very competitive school and I can assure you you are BY NO MEANS "old" as far as your peers go. However, if you are uncertain as to whether law school is for you, I urge you to consider the matter thoroughly before you take the plunge, so to speak. I can truthfully say that law school is the most gruelling, sometimes discouraging, and sometimes scary experience I have ever endured. I am extremely glad that I chose to go, but it is definitely not for everyone.
Mousie29
02-05-2001, 10:45 AM
Sneezles, etc. I'm 30, recently married and we are planning for me to "SAH", if/when we're blessed w/ a baby soon. It's what I've always wanted to do even though I do have an MBA.
I'm a CPA (tax specialty) and work for a private family investment office. The huge plus is working only 3 days/week after April, but I do miss people.
I like what I do, but it IS a job. I guess I'm just thankful to have a good living and thankful to have a nice situation although it's not glamorous. Keeping up with their investments and doing tons of tax returns during busy season. It's no pressure at all and has no bueracrocy (sp?).
If you are the type, I really like accouning/tax in that I can work anywhere, any company, not-for-profit, etc.
I agree
with you all that the people part and culture of where you are is CRITICAL. I want my husband and I to always keep that in mind!!!
luv2cook
02-05-2001, 01:57 PM
That's very true, Beth. I feel like a lot of people have misconceptions about lawyer earnings. I know some pretty poor ($) wise lawyers who chose to work on their own rather than a huge company and have flexible hours. I also know that the size of your paycheck doesn't guarantee you're good at your job, either. I've seen a lot of bad lawyers in my profession...but having a law degree is a great degree to have...very usable...
I have a Ph.D. in Pathology and work as a biomedical research scientist full-time and teach group fitness part-time. I have a lot of flexibility in my schedule as a scientist which allows me to teach step aerobics/strength training 5 times a week, which helps keep me sane. Research can be stressful, but every once in awhile I get some perks- my boss is sending me to both California & Colorado this year- mini-vacations!!! BUT....if I won the lottery, I'd become a caterer. I like to cook.
Mousie29
02-05-2001, 02:40 PM
Beth,
If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been SAHM? What's it like after the career stuff? Is it always what you had in mind. It's always what I've wanted to do, just curious.
Wow...what great and very interesting posts!
Thank you all for your feedback ! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
KristaMB
02-05-2001, 08:10 PM
Oh, boy... Where do I even start on this one? Most of the time I like the company that I work for, but my job can be very stressful and frustrating. Last month I stepped down from a management position to be a "regular" worker, and things are getting better. I am hoping to a be SAHM after our baby arrives in August, I am just praying that we can swing it financially. My husband is a full time student, who will graduate in December with a Computer Science degree. So, we'll see how feasible my little scheme is, but if it doesn't work, I don't see myself going back full time to this company. Essentially, my job is just for a paycheck. Sometimes my decision makes paying off the student loans a little hard to swallow, but I think that I'll be so much happier with my life in the long run.
Kristy G
02-05-2001, 10:07 PM
Sneezles,
I, too, am a stay-at-home mom. After working in the corporate world for 11 years, I have to say that this is by far the most rewarding (and challenging) job I have ever been privileged to have. I was interested in reading everyone's replies to the original question because I never felt happy in all the jobs I held before, however, now I feel like I am making a difference in the lives of two very special little people (ages 2 and 5). Although I do wish they weren't such picky eaters! A lot of my Cooking Light creations go to waste...I can only hope that taste improves with age!
Trixie
02-05-2001, 10:57 PM
Hi Sneezles...I, too, am a stay at home mom of a 2 and 6 year old. I left my job in film and video post production 6 years ago to stay home with my kid. My job was perceived as very glamorous and high-profile but I hated it! The stress was enormous, even though the money and prestige were great.I had constant stomach problems from being so stressed out all the time! I love being able to see my kids grow up and be there for it all, but I do miss the grown-up stuff sometimes! I don't think I'll ever go back to a "regular" job...I would love to do voice-overs(I did some in my prior life) and perhaps some writing, and also go back to school. Don't ever cheat yourself out of your dream...it's never too late!
Law was my second career. In my law school class, there were others who had put a spouse through school, were changing careers, starting a new career after the kids left home, even a guy who had completed medical school and wanted a JD too. You won't be the youngest, but you probably won't be the oldest either. I just caution folks looking at law school to be realistic about their expectations.
I think a lot of people think law school is the path to Easy Street, but a lot of lawyers do not earn huge salaries. Those who do may thrive on the stress and long hours and be tremendously rewarded (I was one of those). Even amongst those, it is hard to balance a spouse, SO or children (it can be done, but it isn't easy and there will be trade offs). Worst of all, my husband and I know partners at law firms who are making what most of us would think to be outrageous sums of money, but they still live paycheck to paycheck, waist or neck deep in debt. It's amazing how keeping up all the trappings that go with the good life can keep you from enjoying a good life.
I'm now a SAHM, but it wasn't by choice for me. Best of luck to all of you considering changes, and I wish for you the opportunity and the courage to make the choices that will bring you growth and happiness.
[This message has been edited by Beth (edited 02-05-2001).]
sunbrie
02-06-2001, 10:32 AM
I've been a stay at home mom for six years. I'm really glad I could do it, but for those of you who work and long for it, it may not be quite what you'd expect (true with anything!). I did work for two years after my first son was born and I thought if only I could be home we could make crafts, take walks, play in the backyard and how lovely it would be! Well, I didn't take into account the struggles you go through with toddlers and preschoolers. Your best plans often don't work out. And after adding a second child, look out! Things get 4x as difficult! Another issue for me was my relationship with my husband is definitely different being at home. I like having a more equal footing and not being put into the role of his mother, too. Anyway, I wouldn't do it any differently--I'm thrilled I did stay home, but will be re-entering the workforce soon as my youngest will be in first grade next year.
ChrisF
02-06-2001, 04:53 PM
Such interesting feedback! Thought I'd add my 2cents: I just had my *25* year anniversary with the same company! Yikes! Never in a million years did I think I would be working as a technician for a huge public utility corporation. I have a BA in anthro, and landed a very low-tech entry level job here out of college to pay the bills. One thing led to another-- marriage, husband back to school, two kids,(now they're both in college), and 25 years whizzed on by. Decades ago, I could see the electronic/digital horizon fast approaching, and I worked my way into a high-tech, decent paying position. But this is not how I anticipated that I would spend my working years. On the plus side, this job has given my family financial stability and good benefits. I never really expected too much more. When my sons were at home, I always saw my career as "mom"-- orchestrating family dinners, going to all the sports and school events, etc. It isn't easy to have a full-time job and to be a 'career mom' too!! Judging by the two products (who, I admit, are still works-in-progress!!), DH & I did good work. I still have 'just a job', and probably will retire from here in 5 more years, but I'll continue to find things outside of my 9 to 5 existence that are more interesting than the digital world!
GayeC
02-06-2001, 11:58 PM
I do like my job (but probably don't love it). I work as a grant writer/technical writer for a School of Public Health at a university. I love to write and have a degree in public health, so it is a good match. My dream job would be a food writer! I do freelance writing for some regional magazines and am trying to convince them to let me write about food1
The best part of this job is that it is part-time and flexible. I have worked part-time 11 out of 12 years since I had children and it has definitely been the way to go for our family. I just don't think that we could manage (time-wise and stress-wise) if my husband and I both worked full time. Of course, it is hard financially, especially since we live in a less-than-ideal school district and must send our children to a private (church) school. We often wonder where the money will come from, but God has blessed us and continues to provide what we need.
Originally posted by Mousie29:
Beth,
If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been SAHM? What's it like after the career stuff? Is it always what you had in mind. It's always what I've wanted to do, just curious.
I hope the above have addressed your question better than I could. As I said, it wasn't really my choice. I had an arm and hand going numb and headaches so bad I couldn't read and was nauseous everyday. I thought I'd be out for a week or two, but that was 3 years ago.
I think Sunbrie summed it up pretty well. Not planning for the changes, not knowing how long they would last and having other challenges made it a lot different for me.
If you're not sure, try scheduling some time off at home without a lot of extras planned. It will be tempting to make day trips and plan activities, but try not to do more than you would if you were home all the time and see if it suits you or drives you nuts.
Sneezles,
I am also a SAHM for 13 years now. I wouldn't trade it for anything. I will never question the care my children have received over the years and believe that the next 5 years are equally important to be there. These teenage years are emotionally difficult ones and I believe kids need someone to be there when they need to talk and who knows when that will happen. I'm very sadden at the number of moms that are home with their kids now that they have reached 13. I can honestly only think of 2 that started co-op preschool with us (and I know that they began their parenting believing that being at home was very important). Sure, we have made many sacrifices over the years but I'm glad to be raising kids who know how to sacrifice for whats important to them. I think a awful lot of people think that they need too much stuff in their lives and can't make it on one income. Here's to all of you moms out there that have made the sacrifices necessary to be there with your kids. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Do I love my job? You bet, I can't think of a more important job on this earth!!
SusanJoy
02-08-2001, 03:00 PM
Hip Hooray for all the SAHM's out there!
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one staying home or that I'm a freak of nature! I love being home with my two girls (2 and 4.5) but it is certainly harder than anything I have ever done - harder than law school, which I loved for the intellectual challenge, and harder than practicing law, which I just never got into, despite the stimulation and the money. As soon as my student loans were paid off, I said goodbye to that career!
I agree with others - its so important to do what you love, and don't be afraid to try something new! A little more education never hurt anyone - who knows what it might lead to that you haven't even thought of yet! Go for your dreams!!
ebobbitt
02-08-2001, 08:10 PM
I have to admit I'm one of those people that loves their job. I manage an IT helpdesk for a large school district. We have 37 schools that I help with software, hardware and networking problems. I have been in the IT industry for 16 years and never liked what I did until I volunteered for this position at work. It's fast, exciting and no two days are ever the same.
Sandy
02-08-2001, 08:45 PM
I love my job. I moved to California from Australia. I lived in Australia, never had to work, but discovered that the cost of living in California demanded that I find work. I first worked for a forensic psychologist and have for the past two years worked for a criminal defense attorney. It is the best job I have ever had. I think that is because of the attorneys I work with. It is a serious job to say the least, but I am working with human beings with feelings, etc. They are generous, appreciate my skills and have become my good friends. I have never gotten up in the morning and thought, "Oh, I wish I didn't have to go to work." The work is interesting, challenging and a real learning experience.
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