What do you boycott?

[Escher]

Is there anyone/anything that you boycott?

Air the target of your ire and the reason here!

[KimKelly]

Martha Stewart Living! I cancelled my newly ordered subscription the day she said we could support her by buying her things.

K

[Kristine]

Nothing. :D

[Escher]

Sadly, I realize that some members of this board boycott me and won't get to see this wonderful thread....

[JenniferJJ]

The self-scan lane at grocery stores. I remember when gas stations had full serve and self-serve. You paid less if you pumped your own gas. Their is no price reduction for me being my own cashier, so I don't.

[Escher]

Originally posted by JenniferJJ
The self-scan lane at grocery stores. I remember when gas stations had full serve and self-serve. You paid less if you pumped your own gas. Their is no price reduction for me being my own cashier, so I don't.

Oh, there's a price reduction all right. You just have to bend your morals a bit.... ;)

(just kidding folks)

[BeachBum]

Wal-Mart--because of their development policies. They use the powers of government to seize private property from individuals under emminant domain laws to put new Wal-Marts in.

I also sort of boycott all chain restaurants in my hometown. I will only eat at them if someone else picks it, but my DH and I will never support them by choice. It's just not worth making a stink with our friends by not going there...but we just want to support local business. Along those same lines, I always try to shop at independent retailers before going to franchise or chain stores.

[sneezles]

Originally posted by BeachBum
Wal-Mart--because of their development policies. They use the powers of government to seize private property from individuals under emminant domain laws to put new Wal-Marts in.

I also sort of boycott all chain restaurants in my hometown. I will only eat at them if someone else picks it, but my DH and I will never support them by choice. It's just not worth making a stink with our friends by not going there...but we just want to support local business. Along those same lines, I always try to shop at independent retailers before going to franchise or chain stores.

Wal Mart is hardly the lone ranger when it comes to emminant domain...I'd have to boycott electricity where I live since LCRA did the exact same thing when they put in the power plant.

Even if they're chain restaurants don't they employ local residents? How many local people have the kind of capital it takes to open a restaurant?

Don't boycott much except for the Dixie Chicks...

[tamawrite]

I, too, refuse to use self-checkout. DH likes them, and every time the dang machine gets confused and has to be helped by the attendent anyway. :rolleyes:

I also boycott Albertsons grocery stores because theyr prices are bloody ridiculous.

Now, neither of those strikes me as a "real" boycott enforced for moral reasons. I can't think of any of those at the moment, unless you count places like strip joints, in which I have no interest. ;)

[wallycat]

I won't buy Pilgrim's Pride chicken after they aired that secret video of what one employee was caught doing to them :mad: :mad: :mad:
Actually, I try to buy local/free-range birds instead of any of the mass produced, poor creatures.

[jennanne]

Walmart and chain restaurants.

[KLynn]

Originally posted by JenniferJJ
The self-scan lane at grocery stores. I remember when gas stations had full serve and self-serve. You paid less if you pumped your own gas. Their is no price reduction for me being my own cashier, so I don't.

I completely agree!!! I am not paid to ring up my groceries, so I don't. I happily wait in line with a magazine :p

[Kristilyn1]

French wine and vodka. Yes, they make a vodka. I think everyone knows the reason why.

Reebok. I bought a pair of shoes 15 years ago and they split weeks after I bought them. My money is better spent with other shoe companies. I don't hate them or anything, I just prefer to buy other shoes.

Stop & Shop. I hate the stupid saving cards, they never, ever have baggers and the prices are ridiculous. I remember my first experience at a Stop & Shop. No bagger and the cashier is standing there LOOKING at my groceries. I said, "is anybody going to bag my groceries?" and no lie, she looks at me and says "well, they don't like me to do it" and I said "well, I don't like ME to do it either!" I like my local Hannaford because they hire Down's Syndrome people and elderly people to bag. I don't care how long it takes them, it's just nice to get it done!

Kristi

[Kayaksoup]

Yellow Cab.

[Jazzmatazz49]

Best Buy. They care zero for customer satisfaction, and I care zero for their attitudes.

[DanaSD]

Walmart!

[slawrence]

Walmart and veal. I LOVE the taste of veal but have a hard time contributing to the production. Walmart....many reasons. Sue

[HejazSunKat]

Originally posted by Kristilyn1
French wine and vodka. Yes, they make a vodka. I think everyone knows the reason why.

I must be really dense today because I'm blanking on the reason why. :confused:

Originally posted by JenniferJJ
The self-scan lane at grocery stores.

These have come into being in the time I've been away so I don't have much experience of them but my guess is they were meant to be a time saver for customers? Apparently it has backfired since so many people seem to resent them or be insulted by the concept. I wonder, if they did go ahead and initiate a discount for people who use them (say a 5% reduction of your total bill deducted out of the transaction) would people be more inclined to use them?

I used to strenuously boycott Service Merchandise (was that a national chain or just New England?) after a horrific 'customer service' experience I had there and they later went out of business! I'm not under any illusions it was because of ME but maybe I wasn't the only one to get the Service Merchandise Treatment and it came back to bite them in the @ss. I was pleased. :)

[HejazSunKat]

Originally posted by Jazzmatazz49
Best Buy. They care zero for customer satisfaction, and I care zero for their attitudes.

Really? I bought my laptop from them in May (first purchase I ever made from there) and had a wonderful experience - surprisingly wonderful. Everybody I came in contact with in 2 different branches was great. That was the sales staff though. I haven't had to return or get service on anything there. After that I bought something at Circuit City and couldn't help but compare how apathetic and ignorant of the products the sales staff was.

[SPITFIRE]

Originally posted by HejazSunKat


I must be really dense today because I'm blanking on the reason why. :confused:

Linda--DH & I also boycott French wine. Why? We believe France harbors terrorists. Not sure if this is
Kristilyn's reason.

Sadly, I love the incredible smoothness of France's Grey Goose vodka. I refuse to buy it by the bottle, but at weak moments I've been known to order a cosmo with grey goose when out at restaurants. :o

[linsleyd]

Walmart for lack of customer service and attitudes.

Sears

[SueK]

Walmart- our local one is dirty and cluttered and just plain gross.

Sears - no apparent comprehension of the concept of "customer service"

[HejazSunKat]

Originally posted by SueK
Sears - no apparent comprehension of the concept of "customer service"

Oh, I agree with that one. I was trying to buy a phone there a couple months ago and they were locked in a glass display case. There didn't seem to be a sales person around for miles so I gave up rather than hiking around the store begging someone to wait on me.

[badunnin]

Originally posted by JenniferJJ
The self-scan lane at grocery stores. I remember when gas stations had full serve and self-serve. You paid less if you pumped your own gas. Their is no price reduction for me being my own cashier, so I don't.

For me, there is a savings. It's called time and aggravation. Not everything boils down to dollars and cents.

[donleyk]

Nike.

[BeachBum]

Wal Mart is hardly the lone ranger when it comes to eminent domain
Yeah, I know. But we had a huge issue with them in my town...long story.

Even if they're chain restaurants don't they employ local residents? How many local people have the kind of capital it takes to open a restaurant?

Sure they do. But because we own a small business, we feel like we need to support people that we know, and people that shop with us. Also the franchises restaurants in my area are not big supporters of local charities, school sports etc etc. I also feel good about supporting businesses that support my community.
We live in relatively small town/area. I also feel like the chains bully and manipulate the zoning laws (don't get me wrong I also blame the commissioners that are being bought) to the ultimate degradation of our town. I think our independant shops and restaurants are a big part of what makes our community unique and a visitor destination.

[Kristilyn1]

I personally boycott France because of the Iraq war.

Kristi

[MusicMom]

Reality television shows.

I know it's just entertainment, but I think they are sensationalistic, shallow, and hurtful.

[leebee]

I try not to use large retail chains, favoring the local hardware store, smaller regional chains if necessary. I tend to go at it backwards, often, sort of anti-boycotting. Not a fan of the Dixie Chicks, but I bought one of their albums after all the flack, that sort of thing (if I wasn't pregnant, I'd be buying French wine). I know it makes little difference, but it makes me feel better. I, too, will never buy from Sears again based on a horrible customer service incident.

[tulip255]

I am thinking of boycotting Express stores because of their new policy for returns. They have a new system and insist on swiping your driver's license thru their computer each time you return something. I am uncomfortable with that and will either stop shopping there or be very very selective in what I purchase. What do you think of this new policy? Am I making too big an issue out of this?

[Chefzhat]

Walmart (discriminatory labor practices, scorched earth development practices, and just generally crummy establishments.

Remax Real Estate Services - due to the serious screwing we received on our recent real estate transactions.

Establishments that allow their pet cats to wander around (allergy situation).

Nike - because I don't need anyone to tell me to "do" anything.:D

Any self-absorbed rock star that thinks the rest of us want to hear their politics. Dave Matthews, Dixie Chicks, and Bruce Springsteen easily come to mind. Shut up and entertain, leave the politics at home.

[gertdog]

Won't shop at Wal-Mart for reasons already stated by others- and particularly because they tried to bully their way into building a store across the street from a beautiful state park in Ithaca. Reason 1,000,001 why I love Ithaca- they stopped Wal-Mart. (Sadly, I think now, 10 years later, one is being built elsewhere in the town).

Don't listen to ClearChannel radio stations.

Try not to support businesses that actively support political causes I disagree with, though it's often hard to come by reliable information about who supports what.

I will never stay at another Ramada Inn and we will never buy another Volkswagen- customer service issues.

[badunnin]

Originally posted by Chefzhat
Any self-absorbed rock star that thinks the rest of us want to hear their politics. Dave Matthews, Dixie Chicks, and Bruce Springsteen easily come to mind. Shut up and entertain, leave the politics at home.

Do Bono and Sting enter into this? I tend to like those 2, because they actually DO something, not just talk about it.

[Chefzhat]

I'd have to agree, Bethany. I'm truly enjoying watching Bono become an "ambassador" of sorts. Although his songs are political in nature, they highlight issues rather than point fingers. And he's being as bi-partisan as possible, which I like.

He deals with the issue at hand, rather than turning it into a political issue pitting one side against the other. Something we could use more of, IMO. Problems get solved so much better that way.

[AndreaU]

Originally posted by Escher
Sadly, I realize that some members of this board boycott me and won't get to see this wonderful thread....

Aw... poor Escher. :( What about you? You never gave us your list- should be an interesting read! ;)

As for me:
Wal Mart
Martha Stewart anything
Any non-independent radio stations (especially Clear Channel)
Fast food restaurants
Soap operas
Road rage
Cell phones
Ramada Inns (Thanks, Gertdog, for the reminder. I even worked at one for a while- hated it!)

[JenniferJJ]

Debie,
Were you referring to the recent announcement of the concert tour of which those performing acts will be involved? If not, it was recently announced that those acts and some others will be on a tour specifically designed to raise money to unseat Bush. If my link does not work, it is in the entertainment section of today's Detroit News. I personally like the Dixie Chicks music. I wish they could just leave their politics out of it and let me have an enjoyable concert. Obviously I won't be attending their fundraising concert.

http://www.detnews.com/2004/events/0408/04/events-232926.htm

[badunnin]

So cool! I am so there! Thanks for posting the link Jennifer!

[Chefzhat]

Yup, Jennifer. That's it. I won't be attending, and I wouldn't be even if they were raising money to unseat a democrat. I just can't support these partisan issues.

[badunnin]

Actually, their stated goal is to get people to vote on Nov. 2. Their website states nothing about voting for Bush, voting for Kerry, whatever.

[Schmee]

Cracker Barrel
I try to boycott WalMart but every once in a while I will run in there for something
Same with KMart

[Chefzhat]

Originally posted by badunnin
Actually, their stated goal is to get people to vote on Nov. 2. Their website states nothing about voting for Bush, voting for Kerry, whatever.

This from the article:

“We’re trying to put forward a group of progressive ideals and change the administration in the White House,” Springsteen told The Associated Press in the most overtly political statements of his 30-year career. “That’s the success or failure, very clear cut and very simple.” The artists of different generations and genres will tour under the name “Vote For Change,” with shows Oct. 1-8. But the money generated will go to America Coming Together, which promises on its Web site to “derail the right-wing Republican agenda by defeating George W. Bush.”

The anticipated millions of dollars will be spent in the swing states before the presidential election, said ACT president Ellen Malcolm.


No matter what their website says, these are the statements being made to the press. Sounds like anything but bush to me.

However, I'd not attend even if it were "not Kerry this time". I just don't like this kind of gunk.

[JenniferJJ]

A look at the website makes it clear which party they want to win. Here is a sample:

"ACT needs you to help beat George W. Bush and elect Democrats up and down the ticket in 2004 in federal, state and local elections"

on the left side of the home page under "About ACT"

"Every dollar you give will turn out Democratic votes on November 2"

On left side under "Contribute"




http://www.actforvictory.org/

[Schmee]

I forgot,I go up north every year in protest of The Woodward Dream Cruise. I grew up 10 houses from Woodward and there is nothing like being awakened at 6am to the sound of squeeling tires and having strangers wandering drunk around your neighborhood.
Absolute nightmare

[Chefzhat]

Tee hee, Shmee! Remember the "Ann Arbor Hash Bash"? Our friends fled the city each year during that weekend (while the rest of us ran to the city!):D Ah, my younger years . . .

[Chefzhat]

I really don't want this thread to turn to more political hashing. I'm guilty of leading it in that direction, I know. I've hereby put the brakes on.

Love ya, Bethany!!!

[Schmee]

I never went to a Hash Bash but I had friends that wouldn't miss it. I was always afraid I would get arrested or something!

[sneezles]

Originally posted by Chefzhat
Any self-absorbed rock star that thinks the rest of us want to hear their politics. Dave Matthews, Dixie Chicks, and Bruce Springsteen easily come to mind. Shut up and entertain, leave the politics at home.

Exactly!!! We've not allowed any Dixie Chick songs to be played in the bar since their earlier stunt. Then they said they were leaving Texas since they're not really Country Western, yeah the world believes that, Natalie! And now this stupid tour with the Boss!! Puhhhhhhleeeese!:rolleyes:

[Jazzmatazz49]

Many, many New Orleanians plan a ski trip or some other out of town activity during Mardi Gras each year. It's interesting to see that Ann Arbor residents had the same idea!

[badunnin]

Originally posted by Chefzhat
I really don't want this thread to turn to more political hashing. I'm guilty of leading it in that direction, I know. I've hereby put the brakes on.

Love ya, Bethany!!!

I decided to walk away as well. Love ya too Deb!

[HDgirl]

Although I am not successful in completely boycotting anything. I try to avoid the 'Boutique' (my term for the HD store) at all costs.

[JenniferJJ]

I also boycott as much as possible stores on Sundays. It is partly faith-based and part "family values" based. I remember when I was younger the major department store here was only open from 1-5p.m. Even if you had to work, you would still be able to go to church if that was important to you and/or have at least one day where you could spend the morning/evening with your family (or other people important to you - friends or neighbors). Now it is open until 7p.m. and opens at 10 or 11. Many other stores have similar hours. If they didn't have that many sales at all the late hours, they wouldn't be open as long. My exceptions are usually necessity-based (food and gas related or just something important like forget to get a present for someone - I'm not legalistic) and if someone wants to go shopping with me: I can only remember it happening once, but XDBF wanted to spend some time going Christmas shopping with me and since part of my stance is so that people (employees) could spend more time with people they care about it didn't seem right for me to adhere to this stance with the effect being that I wouldn't be able to spend time with someone I cared about. It's important to me, but not something that I would spend time debating about. I don't even talk about it very much (obviously, if XDBF didn't even know about it and then I went shopping with him).

[Lrimerman]

Walmart.

Other than that I really can't think of anything we actively boycott, however we do try to buy mostly local.

Lisa

[Blissful_in_TX]

Wal-Mart, but not for any moral reasons. It’s just the ones by us are dirty, disgusting and way over-crowded.

I also don’t like JCPenneys. For the most part I think they have poor quality products that are way overpriced. Also, any store that has marked-up products and then almost constantly has them on sale 40-50% off annoys me. Kohls comes to mind, but I do occasionally show there.

[CLCH]

Things I boycott based on principle:

The Coors company
Wal-Mart
KFC
Waffle House
Cracker Barrel
Denny's
veal
foie gras (I also hate it, but wouldn't eat it even if I liked it because of how they force-feed the geese.)

Things I avoid out of personal dislike:

cell phones
shorts and pants with words across the butt
SUVs

[RebeccaT]

Nothing comes to mind.

I must have no principles. :p

[greysangel]

It's funny listening to the comments about Bono...for a long time Chaz didn't like me listening to U2 because he (and others) used to believe that U2 helps fund the IRA. I'm not sure whether he still believes that now...




Chain restaurants - I only go if we're part of a group and someone else is picking the restaurant.

Starbuck's - I would say chain stores, but I do tend to shop at places like Barnes and Noble, Pathmark and Best Buy out of convenience/price etc.

Self Check out at the grocery store

Tip jars at take out shops/places

Cell phones

I think that's it :D

[RunnerKim]

My big one is pet stores that sell cats, dogs etc. (fish, rodents okay).

Oh I also boycott Hooters.

Kim

[boisewinesnob]

Originally posted by greysangel
Tip jars at take out shops/places

Ditto

Any Marie Calendar product/restaurant for reasons that go back almost 17 years. Isn't it interesting how an extremely negative experience can remain in memory for so long ;)

[badunnin]

Originally posted by greysangel

Tip jars at take out shops/places


As someone that actually worked at a coffee shop for a while, I have to admit I appreciated these, and I always tip now. But I do believe that you have to go the extra mile beyond counter help to deserve it. I worked the same shifts every week. We had regulars. We went above and beyond for these people - comping drinks on occassion, starting an order when they walked in the door, before they got to the counter. When I go back to my shop, they still give me the employee discount - and I tip them. In my opinion, it's like a bar. You tip your bartender. Tip your barista! :) Just my opinion though.

[HRJ]

I have to admit, I'm inconsistent. :o I won't eat Chilean sea bass, for example, because it's so severely over-fished -- but I do eat cod, and I know there's a great deal of concern about that fishery being depleted, too.

Sometimes, I'll avoid a business because of bad customer service, but will "give them another chance" eventually. That's the case with Amazon.com, which I "boycotted" for almost 10 years -- I had a very bad customer service experience with them when they first started out, back when they only used to sell books and when e-commerce was a fairly new phenomenon. (I even used to refer to them as "the giant online retailer whose name I will not utter"). Eventually, because so many other people told me that they'd gotten great service from Amazon, I decided to try them again. Can't say that I'm thrilled with them, but I do buy from them now and again -- was especially happy with the Gold Box offer I got on my KA mixer. (Maybe I'm just an appliance slut ;) ). They're now the retailer I love to hate.

I avoided Wild Oats for a year once, because I'd had three bad customer service experiences in a row.

At the moment, I'm avoiding Kohl's (bad customer service/misleading advertising); Starbucks and Peets(don't like to encourage the "over-roasted" coffee trend, but I know I'm fighting a losing battle on that one :rolleyes: ).

I will never, ever shop again at 1-800-Flowers, or Mattress Giant, which is a shabby, unethical chain here in the Boston area. I won't donate to UNICEF, because they advocate against international adoption, although I understand they have modified their stance somewhat recently, so I'll have to look into that.

I seem to live in one of the few areas of the country that still don't have self-service checkouts at the supermarket. :)

And -- at the risk of turning this thread back toward politics for a moment <deep breath, here> -- I want to say something about Bruce Springsteen. I can't address any of the other musicians that have been mentioned, because I don't know very much about them, but Bruce, in both his music and his public statements, has always addressed social/political/public policy issues. It's an integral part of his public persona, and, for the majority of his fans, it's an important part of what makes him and his music so appealing. I think anyone who goes to a Springsteen concert should be aware that he always speaks to the audience; that he addresses political/social concerns; and that his viewpoint is left-of-center -- no surprises there.

If someone chooses to stay away from Springsteen's concerts/not buy his music because he voices his opinions, that's fine. But I don't think he should be expected to just "entertain" in order to accommodate those who disagree with him.

Helene

[greysangel]

Originally posted by badunnin


In my opinion, it's like a bar. You tip your bartender. Tip your barista! :) Just my opinion though.

Bethany we'll just have to disagree on this one...I dont see it like a bar at all. It is up to the shop to pay their staff for what they do. I don't have a tip jar on top of my cubicle for the administrative work that I do, even when it's above and beyond what the average admin does.

Then again even at a bar, I don't go crazy with the tipping. I tip well for great service. If there's a bartender chatting up a corner of the bar where their friends are and he/she is neglecting me, I'm not going to go crazy with a tip.

j

[JenniferJJ]

Helene,
I guess I have to agree with you - there is a history of musicians addressing social issues. Regarding political issues, I can't think of any artists/songs that come to mind, but my recording artist knowledge isn't exactly up to snuff. To be honest, I was referring specifically to the Dixie Chicks. They were just entertainment and I had two of their CDs and then they suddenly went political. The biggest problem I had with them was that they said their comment last year on foreign soil. People like John Mellencamp are more real in this effort since he has been a social activist with Farm Aid for so many years.

Last year I went to a Peter Gabriel concert. He made a comment against the war. That didn't bother me as it was one comment and not the whole concert. I enjoyed the concert and enjoy his music.

What does/did UNICEF do to advocate international adoption and why?

[kristalsnow7]

Originally posted by badunnin


For me, there is a savings. It's called time and aggravation. Not everything boils down to dollars and cents.

I agree. I love self-checkout. :)

[AndreaU]

Originally posted by HDgirl
I try to avoid the 'Boutique' (my term for the HD store) at all costs.
That's a good one... DH & I call it Disneyland because it's so much hype and "fluffy" stuff.


Originally posted by CLCH
shorts and pants with words across the butt
C'mon, what's wrong with having "Cutie Pie" in bright neon green letters emblazoned across one's tookus?! :rolleyes:


I forgot another of my boycotts- any retail establishment on a holiday. (I recall a previous thread on this topic.)

Oh, and the color pink. Shades of purple I'll do, but I draw the line at pink. Sorry, I'm just not a pink person.

[HRJ]

Originally posted by JenniferJJ

What does/did UNICEF do to advocate international adoption and why?

To be clear, UNICEF has advocated against international adoptions -- and, as the parent of a child adopted from another country, I obviously don't agree with that. Their stance, as I understand it, was based on concerns about corruption within the adoption system -- I'm certainly not denying that corruption exists, and I would love to see it eliminated where it does occur -- but that does not mean the entire system is corrupt. I believe the majority of children -- at least those who come to the U.S., I can't speak for other countries -- arrive here through ethnical means. Also, their philosophy is that children should remain in their native cultures -- nice idea, but when remaining in their native cultures means children will grow up in orphanages/on the streets/not at all, because they live in developing nations that don't have the resources to care for them or the political interest in doing so, then another approach is needed.

I'll try to find some links for you with more specific info for you. As I mentioned, I recently read something in an adoption publication that said UNICEF's stance had changed, but I haven't had the time to do much research on that. I'd be thrilled to be able to change my feelings on them.

Helene

[JenniferJJ]

Oops, sorry Helene. I understood the "against" as you typed it, I just mistyped it.

nice idea, but when remaining in their native cultures means children will grow up in orphanages/on the streets/not at all, because they live in developing nations that don't have the resources to care for them or the political interest in doing so, then another approach is needed.

I agree.

Thanks for the explanation.

[linsleyd]

Originally posted by tulip255
I am thinking of boycotting Express stores because of their new policy for returns. They have a new system and insist on swiping your driver's license thru their computer each time you return something. I am uncomfortable with that and will either stop shopping there or be very very selective in what I purchase. What do you think of this new policy? Am I making too big an issue out of this?

That's ridiculous and I'm glad you brought that up because I didn't know that. I will definetly be selective next time I go in there!

I forgot, I also try to avoid Clear Channel owned radio channels etc. Unfortunatly it's almost impossible to not go to a concert that they aren't offering.

[mlr73]

Originally posted by tulip255
I am thinking of boycotting Express stores because of their new policy for returns. They have a new system and insist on swiping your driver's license thru their computer each time you return something. I am uncomfortable with that and will either stop shopping there or be very very selective in what I purchase. What do you think of this new policy? Am I making too big an issue out of this?

I don't think you're making a big issue of this. I wouldn't want them to have my driver's license information. They don't need to know that, especially if I had paid cash. You're returning an article of clothing, not trying to get a loan or a job. If you ask me, stores are asking way too much of their customers these days. I don't know how many stores ask for my phone number when I buy something. I just tell them that I don't want to give it out. I don't know what Express stores would do if you refused to give them your driver's license. Tell them they have no legal right to that information?? I guess they could refuse to make the return. I won't buy from them knowing this, although I don't buy from them because their clothes don't look good on me anyway.

My mom boycotts the self-service checkout lines because she feels it takes away someone else's job. I agree with that, although I have gone through the self-service lanes, but mainly when I only have a couple of items and the other lanes are long.

I don't know if there is anything I really boycott, though. I don't like George W. Bush and anything he stands for. Could that count? :D (Don't mean to start an argument here - just my opinion and just being silly.)

[Beth H]

I don't know how many stores ask for my phone number when I buy something. I just tell them that I don't want to give it out. I don't know what Express stores would do if you refused to give them your driver's license. Tell them they have no legal right to that information??

I also won't give stores my phone number - and so many of them ask for it now. I just flat out say "no." Usually the clerk gets sort of a shocked look on his/her face.

I absolutely would not give my driver's license. I frankly would lie and say that I don't drive (thus don't have a license) and that a friend had brought me to the mall. I'm sure they're doing this to accumulate a database of customer information, but I think it's crossing the line. I'm almost tempted to go to an Express, buy something, and then return it to test the policy.

As for "boycotting" stores - like others, I avoid Walmart whenever possible. They have been responsible for the gutting of downtowns in so many small communities.

[Grace]

Could someone tell me what Cracker Barrel does that causes so many people to boycott it? I don't go there (hate chain restaurants in general, nor is there a Cracker Barrel anywhere around), but I'm just curious why this one out of all the restaurant chains there are - I feel like I'm missing something! :D

[donleyk]

Grace, they have been accused of treating African-Americans poorly. I don't know if that is the reason or not.

[JenniferJJ]

I used to work in retail, and althought it seems intrusive, I totally understand why the stores ask for so much information. Before stores got strict on receipts, some people would shoplift and then return without a receipt saying it was a gift. The store would give them store credit, but take their ID info so to get a record of who had multiple returns without a receipt. At one point, there had to be a policy regarding certain brands of expensive jeans. People would buy an expensive pair, wear them and then return them. The policy stated that if they were worn and washed we would not give back the full amount. I remember one customer trying to return a pair of jeans with no tags on them insisting they had not been washed/worn. Well, they smelled like bleach and were white whereas the ones on the shelf were obviously beige. I agree, you paid cash, you have the receipt, the item has the tags, it was clearly not worn/washed - why do you need to give your ID info? But I would not be surprised to find out if there was some incident related to those above that led to the request.

[boisewinesnob]

Expanding on what Jennifer said....

My DH's former company required ID on refunds. One of their main reasons was to help prevent employee theft. An employee could make up a refund, claim the alleged customer didn't have a receipt, and off he/she goes with the cash. This happened with one of the managers in DH's company (since she was a store mgr she was there a lot when no other employees were there to see it happening). She had been doing this over several months and eventually someone higher up started auditing some of these "refunds" and caught her.
So, even though it's a pain for legitimate customers to have to show ID, it is going to become more common before it becomes less common, I would venture to guess. If you don't like it, don't shop those stores (which is the point of this thread :D ).

[Jazzmatazz49]

I should be able to figure this out, but what is an HD store?

I boycott Cracker Barrel because the service is always terrible and the food isn't very good either. Sometimes breakfast isn't too bad, but even IHOP is better.

A manager at Lowe's told me they have to put the Electrolux vacuums way up high because people steal them, then bring them back for store credit and buy something too big to steal, like a refrigerator. Amazing. Who knew Electrolux was even available in stores...I thought they were sold door to door!

[mlr73]

From what I've heard about Cracker Barrel, they've not only treated African-Americans poorly, but also homosexuals. I guess I don't know how they could tell someone was homosexual, but I heard homosexuals were included in the unfair treatment. Same goes with Denny's.

Is an HD store Home Depot? Just my guess.

[Jazzmatazz49]

Thanks, mlr. Of course it must be Home Depot. Our Home Depot has fairly good service, but I go to Lowe's most of the time.

[luckylori]

gertdog & linsleyed...you have no idea how glad I am to hear you both say you boycott Clear Channel stations! I wish everyone in this country would.

It's interesting to see how many folks boycott WalMart, because a heck of a lot of people sure shop there. The parking lot is always full whenever I drive by, and they're always building new ones that keep getting bigger and bigger.

I will have nothing further to do with Alltel or any other of the regular cellphone providers. I've switched to pre-paid and have saved a bunch of money that way with none of the bad customer service issues.

I wish I could boycott the ever-rising cable tv costs (and satellite isn't any better), but sadly I can't live without the food network.

[jtoepfert100]

Might not be as principled as the rest of the boycotts, but I go out of my way, at all costs, to avoid elevators or escalators. (And don't get me started on the moving sidewalks in airports!) I mean, come on, how lazy are we? I know there are some who actually need these devices, but most of the time they are used by healthy human beings to go up one flight of stairs. I can understand if people don't want to make an effort to purposely exercise, but if you can't even go up a flight of stairs or walk through an airport, what's next? I admit I'm a bit exercise obsessive, but I truly believe that Americans are getting larger more for their lack of movement than any super size meals.

:o Sorry, I tend to rant about this issue.

Oh, and if I had a choice, I'd boycott the local electric company (won't name names)- corrupt I tell you, corrupt!

[AndreaU]

Originally posted by Jazzmatazz49
I should be able to figure this out, but what is an HD store?

Actually, I believe HDgirl was referring to the Harley Davidson store... hence the HD in her name. Correct me if I'm wrong!

[gertdog]

Originally posted by luckylori

I wish I could boycott the ever-rising cable tv costs (and satellite isn't any better), but sadly I can't live without the food network.

I was just thinking we should have a "what would you boycott if you could?" thread. ;) I would boycott our local post office, which seems to lack the ability to perform even its most basic functions. Deliver mail to the right address? Nope, can't do that. God forbid you want to have your mail held or forwarded- we've tried more than once, with very bad results.

[JenniferJJ]

When I think of the word "boycott" I think of doing something that requires some kind of effort. But in a little more relaxed definition, I boycott network TV. There was very little that I liked to watch - Raymond, Gilmore Girls, ER and American Dreams. Most of what I watched was on cable: CMT, TLC, HGTV, Weather Channel, Travel Channel, Fox, etc. There were a few shows that I've heard were creative (i.e. 24, Alias & Frasier), but just never got into. I think most of the network shows have too much sex, violence, not very creative, reality (trash). Someone suggested I get rid of cable during my unemployment time earlier this year. I really didn't want to as virtually the only things I watched were on cable and not on network. However, I did it. Then a month later, I joined a gym, cancelling out my savings on disconnecting the cable. But I reasoned that the gym helped decreased with isolation during unemployment and also was better for me physically (and the endorphins produced during exercised could combat the depression that can happen during unemployment.

But I don't think the networks could detect that I was originally "boycotting" them and spending all my TV time on "educational" cable stations.

[stefania4]

I boycott Chevron. I had a horrible experience there and it took seven phone calls over the course of a year to get a measly $10 refund.

I boycott a somewhat-local burrito chain called Moe's. They set up shop near a great local burrito place, and the local place goes under. DH wants to make up "Moe's Bloes" signs. :D

Self-checkout lanes are on my list. I refuse to work for free for the supermarket. If my untrained self is faster than your trained checkout employee, then there's a problem with the employee or the training. What next, do we have to stock shelves, too?

Someone mentioned earlier that it can be difficult to know what's true and what isn't. For a while nearly everyone I knew boycotted Wendy's because they said Dave Thomas was anti-choice. I saw a lot of info about him supporting adoption-related causes, which is decidedly not the same thing as being anti-choice. So I never particpated, lacking reliable information.

There are other things I don't care for (football, Olive Garden) or just don't buy, but I don't consider that a boycott because it's a preference and not a moral objection. SUVs blur the line on that one - realistically one person can only buy so many cars, but I'm morally and ethically opposed to the horrific danger they pose and the environmental damage they cause.

[Melman]

I've had a nearly 3-year boycott going for one of our local stores (coughcoughBi-locoughcough). I think their employees are typically snarky. I think they have too much crap in ALL the aisles. I think the other patrons have no clues about driving grocery carts and blocking the whole freakin' aisle because they didn't have a clue. They went on the boycott initially because they bought out my very favorite grocery store in my area. I'm still holding a grudge. I have not walked into one of their stores is well over a year.

I love self-checkouts. In fact, I first started using self-checkouts at the previously mentioned grocery stores. If I had to go there, at least I didn't have to deal with the snarky people at the checkout. If I'm at Walmart, I'll typically go through the do-it-yourself lane just to save time.

I don't voluntarily go to any national restaurant chain. It's not really a boycott...I just don't think the food it typically very good. I guess I unintentionally boycott any restaurant where the typical public thinks it's the best thing since white sliced bread. Example...we just had the local "best of" listed in the paper. Some of the best restaurants were Olive Garden (Italian??), Red Lobster (seafood??), Cracker Barrel (home cookin'), and I think I quit reading after that. [OK, maybe I'll be snarky myself and say that the typical public really needs to think about their favorite restaurants!!] :o :rolleyes:

[Escher]

Originally posted by leebee
I try not to use large retail chains, favoring the local hardware store, smaller regional chains if necessary. I tend to go at it backwards, often, sort of anti-boycotting. Not a fan of the Dixie Chicks, but I bought one of their albums after all the flack, that sort of thing (if I wasn't pregnant, I'd be buying French wine). I know it makes little difference, but it makes me feel better. I, too, will never buy from Sears again based on a horrible customer service incident.

I'll be sure to shop at Sears to nullify YOUR boycott....

[Escher]

Originally posted by tulip255
I am thinking of boycotting Express stores because of their new policy for returns. They have a new system and insist on swiping your driver's license thru their computer each time you return something. I am uncomfortable with that and will either stop shopping there or be very very selective in what I purchase. What do you think of this new policy? Am I making too big an issue out of this?

That's horrible.
And they absolutely better not try that crap with me.
I'd make a case of it, I would.

[Escher]

Someone asked what I boycott.
For some reason, nothing major really leaps to mind.

I'd like to say I boycott a few celebrities, but I don't buy much media, anyhow. If I did, I'd focus on the celebrities who assume their fame somehow translates into their opinion being any more meaningful than a layperson's.

What else? I don't go to stores on holidays. Someone else mentioned it, and I wish I could convey this to everyone on the board. By patronizing a store on Thanksgiving, you are forcing that person to be there instead of with their family.

I find it funny that people won't patronize self-checkouts because it's putting someone out of a job. As someone whose job it was to design, troubleshoot and maintain self-checkouts, it was my job that you were boycotting. It is also my belief that those self-checkouts cost the company more $$ than a regular checkout...even factoring in the cashier's wages. Retailers are offering them as a service to customers....it is still far away from becoming a cost-cutting move.--Trust me on that... the budget my team and I had were FAR more than the sum of the "displaced" clerks.

I've also been known to do some anti-boycotting--Especially when it comes to figuratively crossing picket lines. For instance, I subsribed to the local newspaper as a strike began, even though I don't really care for the paper.
I despise unions.

Nope, can't say I boycott much. And even less for political or social reasons, rather than for poor service/product reasons. I don't really consider that a boycott, anyhow.

[mbrogier]

I love self-checkouts. I guess I'm supporting Escher. :D I guess that also boycotts slow checkers because they get fired and the store keeps the good ones. ;)

I boycotted Jergens. I hated that ad they ran a while back of the woman's naked bottom in magazines. It was totally unnecessary and inappropriate. I saw a display of Jergens in a store last week and realized I haven't seen that ad in a long time. I'm also enjoying my Aveeno. :p

There are places that I don't support because of morals or disinterest, like Hooters. I think of a boycott more of I used to like something and now I don't because something happened.

I do boycott Walmart. I don't like their policies, their employees are snarky, the stores are usually dirty or dark, and I love Target.

[jmarie]

I'd like to say I boycott a few celebrities, but I don't buy much media, anyhow. If I did, I'd focus on the celebrities who assume their fame somehow translates into their opinion being any more meaningful than a layperson's.

MY sentiments EXACTLY, Escher!

I despise unions.
Me, too! I had to belong to one, one time. The dues were collected, monthly, but I never saw one bit of anything in return for my money. All of the employees resented it!

[KAG]

self check out lanes in grocery stores, for the same reasons mentioned above. I don't work for them and get no savings by doing their work for them.

I also boycott any product advertised on t.v. that shows a child or especially a grown man holding his fork with his fist. Please!! Why reinforce bad manners by showing people eating like animals...and children can be taught. I also write them and tell them I am boycotting and why. This one is high on my pet peave list.

Gosh, it seems as if these are the only type threads I reply to. Sorry :( . I guess it's stuff I don't usually discuss IRL so this is my outlet.

[Kristilyn1]

Originally posted by greysangel

Then again even at a bar, I don't go crazy with the tipping. I tip well for great service. If there's a bartender chatting up a corner of the bar where their friends are and he/she is neglecting me, I'm not going to go crazy with a tip.

j

Having spent YEARS doing my second job at a bar---I hate it when people don't tip generously. The tips aren't typically just for the bartender, they also cover anyone who is clearing tables and washing glasses behind the bar. You have to remember that most people in a bar get to suck up everyone's smoke all night AND don't get paid much per hour, plus the hours suck. Sure, some bartenders pull in big bucks on tips but a lot don't. Half the places I worked before the advent of computers everywhere required cocktail waitresses to "pay" for their customers drinks up front and then collect the money from the patrons. I can't even tell you the number of nights that I worked from 7pm until 2 am and brought home $10-$20 because people would stiff me on rounds of drinks. (pretty easy to do in a nightclub where people move from section to section, the dancefloor, etc.) I realize that the jobs are by choice so I'm not meaning to sound whiny--just pointing out that tipping at a bar is exactly on par with tipping at a restaurant.

Kristi

[MrsReber]

I boycott Springsteen. Yes, that's right, I'm from NJ and I can't stand the guy. If he loves his "hometown" so much, why did he sell out? NJ wanted Born to Run to be the state song. Guess they never listened to the lyrics "it's a death trap, it's a suicide rap, we gotta get out while we're young." Hmm, mabye Bruce and I do agree on something. Also, his blatant adultry was disgusting. But most of all, I don't think this guy can sing and I'm truly bewildered when I see people camping out overnight to get tickets to his shows. Just my opinion, I know there are many who love him.

You can add the Dixie Chicks to my list, too :D ! Why don't these musicians just sing and entertain me? I don't care about their political affiliation and many times, I think even less of them when they do get political. (Helene, perhaps we disagree on this point? Personally, I feel that I can get all my information from reading and researching)

I boycott veal. Don't buy it, don't eat it.

Boycott vodka?!?! Never!! :D

Kristi, I'm surprised at your Stop and Shop- ours employees handicapped folks as baggers and there is ALWAYS someone there bagging my groceries. I do jump in to help, but I have to say this is one of the few grocery stores that does have baggers. They also have every ingredient I have ever looked for. Expensive? Perhaps a little, but I do use my savings card and tons of coupons and I shop their sales as much as possible.

[Kristilyn1]

Originally posted by luckylori
gertdog & linsleyed...you have no idea how glad I am to hear you both say you boycott Clear Channel stations! I wish everyone in this country would.



Whats the deal with Clear Channel?

Kristi

[greysangel]

Originally posted by Kristilyn1


-just pointing out that tipping at a bar is exactly on par with tipping at a restaurant.

Kristi

I totally agree with this point and I do tip based on service. I think personally that a lot of people go tip bananas. Sorry I'm not going to leave $1 tip for a $3.00 bottle of beer. I've done my time in the restaurant industry so I have no problem with how I choose to tip people.

j

[Grace]

Originally posted by Escher

I find it funny that people won't patronize self-checkouts because it's putting someone out of a job.

I agree. To me this is like people boycotting electric refrigerators because it will put the ice man out of a job. :rolleyes:

[Kristilyn1]

Originally posted by gertdog


I was just thinking we should have a "what would you boycott if you could?" thread. ;) I would boycott our local post office, which seems to lack the ability to perform even its most basic functions. Deliver mail to the right address? Nope, can't do that. God forbid you want to have your mail held or forwarded- we've tried more than once, with very bad results.

OH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED!!! And you have absolutely NO recourse with the post office. I called because my forwarded mail was taking 32 days to arrive from RI to NH. I was told that this was well within the parameters that they believe it should take. Okay. I then had a temporary address and went to the post office and personally handed in the forwarding order. It's been 2 months, no mail. I just got something back from my insurance company stamped "moved, left no forwarding address". I have no idea who has which address or how long mail has been receiving this stamp. I haven't even bothered to call the post office because what can they possibly say? They don't have it, they must have lost it. I don't want to go into cardiac arrest because my blood pressure will boil if I even have to hear their lame excuses.

KRisti

[Beth H]

Whats the deal with Clear Channel?

They're a monopoly - they own and operate thousands of radio stations around the country, including around 60 - 70% of all rock stations. They control programming to the extent that only certain acts can get air time. The DJ's you hear on your local Clear Channel Station probably are not even in your city - they do generic commentary and then tape a few minutes of "local color" so it seems like they are there.

Here's a web site against them if you're interested:

http://www.clearchannelsucks.org/

[luckylori]

Originally posted by Beth H


They're a monopoly - they own and operate thousands of radio stations around the country, including around 60 - 70% of all rock stations. They control programming to the extent that only certain acts can get air time. The DJ's you hear on your local Clear Channel Station probably are not even in your city - they do generic commentary and then tape a few minutes of "local color" so it seems like they are there.

Here's a web site against them if you're interested:

http://www.clearchannelsucks.org/

Not to mention they are the promoters for most concerts, so they decide what acts you will have coming around to entertain you. They've put tons of people out of work and do not in any way shape or form care about local communities. There's also the issue of their contests. Most of the time if you call to win something from them, you're competing against EVERY ONE of their stations across the country at the same time. However, they'll make it sound like it's local and that you have a great chance.

This all began when the FCC was stupid enough to de-regulate. That was the beginning of the end of radio as we knew it.

[MusicMom]

Originally posted by MrsReber
I boycott Springsteen. Yes, that's right, I'm from NJ and I can't stand the guy. If he loves his "hometown" so much, why did he sell out?

Just FYI, Bruce has lived in Rumson, NJ for a number of years because he wanted to raise his family in the area where he grew up. He does a lot of benefit concerts and activities for his community (like coach Little League) that don't get a lot of press. I'm not sure what you mean by "sell out."

[Kristilyn1]

Personally, I don't care one way or the other about singers who sing about political issues, etc. That's honest. What I do detest is a group of stupid bimbos who sing about nothing (and VERY WELL, I might add) sell a bunch of albums and THEN decide that they are now going to be political. That means that I'M going to become anti-them. They have every right to talk about whatever they want, but please don't boo-hoo later about how everyone is against them. We all have to live with the consequences of our words. They will gain some fans because of their words and they will lose some fans. That's called life.

Kristi

[MrsReber]

Originally, Bruce left his beloved Asbury Park and moved out of state. Yes, he did move back, but I can tell you that the average person in NJ cannot afford to live in Rumson. It's a far cry from Asbury Park. He should go live there and raise his kids there. Personally, I just don't see what all the fuss is about over him. He's done no more or less than anyone else in my community. I don't understand why people look up to him the way they do. He's just an ordinary guy.

[jtoepfert100]

Originally posted by gertdog


I was just thinking we should have a "what would you boycott if you could?" thread. ;)

As a city dweller, if I could, I would boycott grocery stores/markets in the suburbs. For those of you who live in an urban area, you know what I'm talking about. The disparities between groceries stores within the city limits and the stores in outlying areas are extremely frustrating to me. Why is that those that own and run these stores believe that city folk do not need fresh produce? If I go to my nearest Schnucks, Kroger, etc., the tomatoes are rotting, the fruit is shrunken and overripe and variety is extremely limited. And the meat -- I don't even want to talk about the scary meat and what they call seafood that I run into on a daily basis. All of this ususally at the same price or higher as what is offered in the suburbs. I want to buy locally and do almost all of the time, making do with what I can find. But sometimes, I just want fresher and better food for DH and I. So, off to the suburbs I go.:mad: Fortunately, I have the means to do this. What is even more disturbing about this is that many people who live in urban areas, do not have the luxury of traveling to the bigger and better stores outside of the city. They are on a limited budget and may not have transportation available to them. This is a major contributor to the poor health among those on a low income.

I have experienced this in each city that I lived in and get so frustrated because I feel like there isn't anything I can do about it. I have to buy food.

:mad:

[boisewinesnob]

Originally posted by MrsReber
I boycott Springsteen.
But most of all, I don't think this guy can sing and I'm truly bewildered when I see people camping out overnight to get tickets to his shows. Just my opinion

I share your opinion, Susan. Not because of anything political because I don't watch enough TV or read enough rags to even know most of these peoples' politics/opinions. I just can't stand the guy's voice. If I hear him on the radio I immediately change the station because it's like nails on the chalkboard to me :eek: . But whatever; I know plenty of people who don't care for the music I like.

[HRJ]

Not meaning to prolong this "Bruce argument" -- oh, heck, of course I'm prolonging it, but I want to add my opinion -- here's a few resources that talk about Springsteen's charitable contributions:

Involvement in NJ causes (http://www.asburyjukes.com/content/features/feature_1998_01_31_app_charity.htm)

Involvement in NJ causes, and beyond (http://www.amnestyusa.org/events/paris1998/artists/bruce_springsteen.html)

Cover story from "Teamster" magazine (http://www.winona.msus.edu/PublicInformation/Personal/BSTeamster.html)

This is not to say he's "better" than anyone else in the community -- not everyone has the kind of resources he does. I certainly don't expect everyone to enjoy his music, or agree with his politics. But I don't understand why he gets this rap as a "sellout," when he's gone to what I think are extraordinary lengths to help people in his home state and elsehwere. Compare to many other celebrities who were raised in that part of NJ -- Susan Sarandon, Jack Nicholson, Danny DeVito, to name just a few -- who have not maintained such strong ties to the area.

Helene

[HDgirl]

Originally posted by MrsReber
I don't understand why people look up to him the way they do. He's just an ordinary guy. [/B]

Maybe people do see him as an ordinary guy and feel some kind of connection to that.

[MrsReber]

HD girl, perhaps you're right. Never looked at it that way.

Helene, I actually agree with what you said about the other NJ celebrities. In reality, for the most part, I don't really think about it (or Bruce- :D - sorry, had to throw that in!) But seriously, I was never a fan. I clearly remember when his first big album hit stores- I was about 9 or 10. I just never cared for his music and I guess, in some strange way, the people who worship "The Boss" only made it worse for me.

Suzy, I cracked up at your post!

[boisewinesnob]

Susan, we can honestly say he's not the boss of us, right? :p

[bobmark226]

Originally posted by MrsReber
Helene, I actually agree with what you said about the other NJ celebrities.

If you'd like, we'll send you back Sarandon. We'll even throw in the husband. Every time I see her, I want to bop her over the head with my duffel bag.

BOB

[MrsReber]

Originally posted by bobmark226


If you'd like, we'll send you back Sarandon. We'll even throw in the husband. Every time I see her, I want to bop her over the head with my duffel bag.

BOB

Naaaaaah, you can keep her. And please, do bop her on the head! I'm disappointed in her husband, too. I like some of his movies so my brain has a hard time dealing with him.

[jmarie]

I bet that my husband and I give as much based on percentages of our income as Bruce does. The problem is that he has so much more money than we do....he is 'famous'. we will never be that famous unless we win the lottery.....but we don't play the lottery.

I am sure that there are millions, just like us...he should have no more of a voice than you or me...but he does. :o And whoever said..he is just an ordinary guy couldn't be more right! WHY ALL THE FUSS!

[Gail]

Blockbuster Video
Sav-on Drug Store

[gertdog]

Originally posted by Gail
Blockbuster Video
Sav-on Drug Store

Hmm, my list grows ever-longer. We stopped patronizing Blockbuster after a few bad experiences, and I also stopped shopping at Rite-Aid after having bad experiences with their pharmacy.

I got a letter from Rite-Aid the other day, one of those "we miss you, come back!" things. It proceeded to tell me all about their super-convenient automated phone system for requesting refills. I actually wrote back to tell them that at my new local family-owned pharmacy, a real live person answers the phone and enters my refill in about 10 seconds... and other reasons I won't be returning to Rite-Aid.

[cocoa'smom]

BLOCKBUSTER!! Don't get me started on Blockbuster. Ever since they started that policy where supposedly you get to keep the movie an extra half day (til 12N)....If you rent a 2-day rental on Friday and its due at 12N the 3rd day, it should be due on Monday at noon. But noooooooo...they count Friday as the first day and the movie is due Sunday at noon....excuse me....that's a day and a half!!! I've argued and argued with them about this...when they used to have one-day rentals, and you rented on Friday, the movie would be due on Saturday at closing time, right??? Anyway...sorry for the tirade...I'll never go there again!!

[Schmee]

I'm right there with Blockbuster too,but for different reasons. I have rented videos there that I had previously seen and they were edited for content!!? I heard that they originally had some kind of conservative/relgious backing,not sure if that is still true. Anyway,they used to not carry videos that they did not feel fit into their "family values" type mold. That really pissed me off-but now it is worse because they realized they were losing money by not having these items so they just edit out the things THEY feel people should not see.
Good reason for me to never go there again. I will decide what I see,not some boardroom full of boneheads.

[Escher]

Originally posted by Schmee
I'm right there with Blockbuster too,but for different reasons. I have rented videos there that I had previously seen and they were edited for content!!? I heard that they originally had some kind of conservative/relgious backing,not sure if that is still true. Anyway,they used to not carry videos that they did not feel fit into their "family values" type mold. That really pissed me off-but now it is worse because they realized they were losing money by not having these items so they just edit out the things THEY feel people should not see.
Good reason for me to never go there again. I will decide what I see,not some boardroom full of boneheads.

I call BS.

Supporting evidence?

[Schmee]

Supporting evidence?

The fact that myself and people I know have rented videos that had parts edited out of them that I knew were once there,for starters.

[gertdog]

Blockbuster's site states unequivocally that they do not edit content; they say they carry the movies sent to them by the studios. However, sometimes the theater version released by the studio differs from what the studio releases on video/DVD... could that be the reason for the disparity?

Policy statement on Blockbuster's site (http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/article/details/0,7413,ART-1502.html#18)

[Escher]

But others, including myself, have rented movies w/ all sorts of controversial elements.

Sex
language
violence
controversial religious symbolism....

all I have seen in some movies rented from Blockbuster.

I seriously doubt your claim.

From Blockbuster's website:
Blockbuster FAQ's (http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/article/details/0,7413,ART-1502.html#18)

Q: Does BLOCKBUSTER edit the movies in the store?
A: No, Blockbuster does not edit the content of its films. We offer all movies for sale or rental in the exact condition we receive them from the movie studios.

You are imagining things.

They do, however, refuse to carry nc-17 or adult movies, or A rated games.

[Schmee]

You are imagining things.






:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Escher]

Well, Schmee...do tell

What, specifically, was edited from which movie....
and as gertdog mentioned....is it the studio, or blockbuster that you think did the editing?

[Schmee]

Obviously,I THINK Blockbuster did the editing. (hence,the boycott)
If the studio did the editing,why did they only send the edited versions to Blockbuster and the non edited versions to other video stores? If they feel that they need to edit movies before the send them to Blockbuster,than isn't that much like Blockbuster doing it themselves?
Case in point,my brother rented "Requiem for a Dream" there after he had already seen it at the movies. It was not the exact version that he had seen at the theatre. Then went to "brand x" video store and got the same movie without those parts missing or altered. Not sure what YOU would call that.


Thanks for this great thread you started,love the many debates it fostered.

[gertdog]

Originally posted by Schmee

Case in point,my brother rented "Requiem for a Dream" there after he had already seen it at the movies. It was not the exact version that he had seen at the theatre. Then went to "brand x" video store and got the same movie without those parts missing or altered.

Schmee, that one makes some sense to me. Requiem for a Dream was released in multiple editions. One was NC-17; another was edited to meet R-rating criteria. Blockbuster does not carry NC-17 films, so you probably saw the R-rated film from Blockbuster and the NC-17 version from the other store.

[mbrogier]

Trust me, Blockbuster does not edit anything. I have noticed that some of the cable tv stations like TBS sometimes air edited movies. Its funny to watch the edited version of A Few Good Men. I don't mind because I'd rather not hear the language.


I boycott that nasty foot fungus commercial. YUCK. Why do they always have that on during meal times? I don't want to see that!!!

[Escher]

Originally posted by Schmee
Case in point,my brother rented "Requiem for a Dream" there after he had already seen it at the movies. It was not the exact version that he had seen at the theatre. Then went to "brand x" video store and got the same movie without those parts missing or altered. Not sure what YOU would call that.


I call that the studio releasing a movie w/ a "R" rating, instead of the original "NC-17".

Blockbuster is quite upfront about not renting any Adult or NC-17 movies.

But, the point is, they (Blockbuster) did not "edit" it.... They simply set the criteria (R or milder rating) and the studio delivered it. Furthermore, the MPAA does the rating, so Blockbuster has no control over that.

Ultimately, the charge you made that Blockbuster "edits out the things they feel people should not see" is unfounded.

[hollysmom]

Ticketmaster

When possible, I will go to the box office and buy my tickets. Unfortunately that doesn't work for Jimmy Buffett since his shows sell out in 15 minutes...

Sometimes their 'fees' are 50% of the original price of the ticket (especially for fairly low-priced tickets - Circus, Wiggles)


SSM