American Idol 4/26

[gertdog]

Finally, I saw the entire show!!

Here's my rundown:

Carrie- hard to know what to make of her performance- I wasn't familiar with the song and I thought the background music/vocals drowned her out.

Bo- I love Gavin DeGraw and loved Bo's performance of that song.

Vonzell- Very good performance. She really does connect well with the audience IMO.

Anthony- I still think he needs to go home. But for him, it was a really good vocal performance.

Oh, Constantine. Why did you try to bring back the Phony Rocker Guy persona? I was actually beginning to enjoy you, but not tonight.

Did the thought of 1 million Scott Savols walking around Cleveland creep anyone else out? And what an emotionally flat, vocally weak performance.

Scott will definitely be bottom 3. I don't know who else will be- Constantine and Anthony if I had my way- but I don't think it matters b/c I think Scott is headed home.

[SueK]

I agree with pretty much everything you said! I got tired of seeing Constantine kick at the camera and act tough. I thought a few of them had a lot of off key moments tonight, including Vonzell, but I really love her stage presence and personality. I agree with Simon that Scott should pack his suitcase tonight.

It was interesting to see the clips about their families and hometowns, too.

[foodfiend]

Can someone tell me what tonight's theme was? I missed the show. BTW, does anyone know details about the ABC special "Fallen Idol"? It's supposed to be an exposé.

[Jazzmatazz49]

Supposedly Paula was fraternizing with the talent in a previous season. Typical May sweeps garbage, whether true or not.

Tonight was an okay night, I didn't really like most of the songs. I think all of the finalists have come a long way from that first couple of weeks though.

And who told Sick-Crest he could be a judge and critique the performances? I noticed he started doing that last week as well.

[SueK]

Originally posted by foodfiend
Can someone tell me what tonight's theme was?
They could sing any song from the year 2000 and beyond.

I also noticed that Paula seemed a bit more subdued tonight. After seeing all the media articles this week about her denials of addictions, etc., I wasn't surprised.....

[MNGirlTX]

Thought I'd chime in -

The bottom 3 will be Scott, Constantine and Carrie (or maybe Bo).

I thought Scott had the weakest performance...based on that, he should be the one to go home.

I don't think Anthony will go, yet. He did a good job tonight...and it's the teeny-bopper thing.

I missed the very, very beginning of Vonzell's song, but I think she's been the most consistent performer throughout.

Lori

[Gecko]

I was pleasantly surprised by Anthony's performance tonight. When they announced he was singing a Celine Dion song I thought he was doomed but he did quite well. I think I am probably the only one to agree with Simon regarding Vonzell, I just didn't think she sounded that great - admittedly it was a tough song. It just wasn't a wow week for me. I agree with everyone that Scott will go this week. Did anyone else notice that Scott's Dad seemed very supportive now, wasn't he the one who told Scott that he would never amount to much? For me there wasn't a really stand-out perfomance tonight, although my girls wanted to vote for Constantine :D

[Molli526]

I got the biggest kick out of one of the posters in the crowd "Seniors for Scott!"

So that is who is voting for him.......


I also think Constantine wears TOO much eye make-up

[sharris315]

I think it is interesting to contrast Bo and Constantine--they seemed similar (both rockers) in the beginning, and now are totally different IMO. Bo's first impression has stayed throughout the competition--he's just comfortable with himself, and Constantine, though talented, clearly does not have that comfort level. I just feel that he's trying every week to find the right look/performance to move him forward. Admittedly, I've never been a fan of his--so maybe it's just me...

Vonzell has been a big surprise to me--I think she's fearless with her selections and has true star potential. Last night was not my favorite, but she still did well.

Scott should go. He was clearly the weakest one last night.


I can only do the bottom three by choosing the strongest first. That would be Bo, Vonzell and Carrie. So, by default, that leaves Scott, Constantine and Anthony to be in the bottom three.

Shar

[NewMrsG]

Wow ... I actually thought it was the weakest night so far - I didn't think any of them were that great, to be honest.

Carrie - was okay - and I'm likely biased by the fact that I'm not a country music fan, but I just don't think she's much of a performer, as much as I do like her voice.

Bo - again, I'm not a fan of rock in the way that he does it, so I know I'm in the minority here. My husband made a comment last night that made a lot of sense to me - that Bo is more of a band singer and doesn't necessarily have the vocals to be a solo performer (please don't throw tomatoes at me!)

Vonzell - was flat throughout at least the first half of her song. Simon was the only one to pick up on it - I was just amazed by that.

Constantine - again, I absolutely agreed with Simon, in that he thought Constantine was doing a bad impression of his earlier rock persona, when he's actually much better at the other stuff.

Scott - was truly the worst of the bunch (and, yes, I also was creeped out by him being the everyman of the bunch - I was also offended by his saying that he's the one who works 8 hours a day, as if none of the rest of them had to work. And I was also confused by the dad being there).

Anthony - I thought this was actually his best performance thus far, although I'm still not nuts about him.

I just thought it was a totally lackluster night to be honest.

[lindrusso]

I think Scott and Constantine will be in the bottom three, but I'm not sure who the third one will be - that's a real wild card. Personally, I would pick Anthony to join the bottom three, but I don't know that America will. Bo definitely does NOT belong there, he rocks, especially last night! But other than that, I could see any of the others ending up there. It's tough now as we weed out the mediocre peformers and you are left with the good ones to weed out.

Sometimes when the singers sound off, I can't decide if it's them or if the band simply isn't meshing with them. Like with Carrie last night - if you listened to her voice only she sounded good, but when you mix in the fiddle, it sounded off. I really think the background singers and the band can throw things off which is a shame. Hard to say, though, it could be the singers.

Come on Constantine - get your act together. I don't want to see you go before Anthony!!!! :)

In any case, this better be Scott's week to go or I might have to scream. He creeps me out too.

Alysha

[funnybone]

Scott really has to go this week. The choice of song was poor in the sense that he didn't sing it well, but also since it's Luthor Vandross' song that he wrote to his mom after the death of his dad. It just didn't seem appropriate, IMO, considering how close Scott isn't to his dad (or we have been lead to believe).

For the first time, Anthony didn't make me cringe, but he has to go next. I can't stand country, so I can't comment on Carrie in an unbiased way, so I won't.

Vonzell is still one of my favorites, but I agree with Simon this week too - she didn't sound as good as Paula and Randy thought.

I think we may see Constantine in the bottom three this week for the first time. Surely his teeny bopper fans can't think he did all that well. :rolleyes:

[mrswaz]

Scott has to go home. His performance was really awful, IMO. He was off alot. ANd again- creepy. After Simon criticized him, I swear he was going to walk off the stage and hit him, he just had that freaky look! And what was with that wierd song??

Anyway, singing wise, I really think that Carrie and Vonzell had the next worse performances. V was really off a lot. She just happened to pick a good song choice I think.

Anthony sure stepped it up though, didn't he?

[tperes]

I agree with many of the comments. Carrie and Bo are my two faves, and Vonzell is a very close third. So, the other three should be in the bottom three.

I can't add anything new to what has already been said about Constantine and Scott (which I agree w/ those comments).
However, I totally expect Anthony to try to work a Cher song in if he makes it through tonight! UGH! He is SO CHEESEY!

[lhall]

Ok, so I know I'm not a music critic...but I thought Anthony's performance was painful to watch!

Naturally I forgot to vote last night.

I think the bottom three will be Anthony, Scott, and Carrie. I'd be happy if either Anthony or Scott go home tonight.

Leigh

[foodfiend]

I know this idea wouldn't work in real life, but wouldn't it be great if we got to hear the singer who got the lowest votes AND the singer who got the most? I'd love to hear some of the best sing again since we only heard a snippet the night before. (I'd love to hear Bo's "Spinning Wheel" and Carrie's "Alone")

[tperes]

I think that for one of the week's theme the audience should could get to pick the song. Ex.

Carrie's Song Choices

A.
B.
C.


The audience then votes for the song they want to hear her sing, and she would have to perform it. The producres could work out the details, but I think it would be cool, and put a new twist on things.

[Melman]

I hate not participating in this discussion today. I left work at 4:30 and didn't get to my house until 11:00 last night. I recorded it. I've also read all the comments. I'm watching the show from last night before the 9:00 show comes on tonight.

Since I didn't watch, my vote isn't official (haha...since I didn't pick up the phone, I guess it's REALLY not official)..but I really want Scott to go. I don't know that I care who's in the bottom 3 with him...just GO AWAY!

[ChiefExec]

Carrie makes me want to stick a fork in my eye. :mad: She just seems so smug and self-satisfied.

Bo rocked the house last night, I totally loved his performance, and hsi outfit (despite whatever Simon had to say :D).

[MISSINDI]

I thought Bo was really good last night, and Carrie and Vonzelle performed well too.

Constantine, I love him, but not so hot on the rocker thing yesterday. Like Shar said, him and Bo seemed so similar when they started ... it's been an interesting change, and I think Simon's comments about "crossing over to the dark/light side" and not being able to go back are spot on.

And please, Scott and Anthony have GOT to go. Interesting to hear Scott's parents describing him as an Average Joe. I'd hate to think Average Joes are throwing phones at their ex-girlfriends while she's holding your baby. Just can't get past that ... he shouldn't be rewarded.

Anthony did better than usual, but just doesn't have the mettle to continue.

[ChiefExec]

I'd hate to think Average Joes are throwing phones at their ex-girlfriends while she's holding your baby

LOL!

Although I guess it's more sad than funny, but I too hope that is not the typical Average Joe.

Dude creeps me out. :rolleyes:

[Laura]

I think what bugs me the most about Scott is his inability to take criticism (ummm if you are going on AI, expect to be judged!), and this huge chip he seems to have on his shoulder about how hard his life has been compared to eveyone elses. I remember him commenting once on how he was the true rocker (as compared to Bo and Constantine) because he started banging on pots and pans to music when he was two. Sorry Scott, I don't think that counts.

Anyway, I wasn't really wowed by anyone last night even Bo who I usually love. I actually think it is going to be Vonzell and Bo in the end. And I really, really, really hope that it is Scott that leaves tonight!

[Laurielee]

I thought the music was just so so last night. I loved Bo and Vonzel, Constantine sure picked the wrong song, I would have loved to hear Bo sing that song, because the original singer has that deep big voice.

I dont See Anthony being voted off tonight, he has the teeny-boppers voting for him which I think is a huge amount of the voters.

Scott, please gotta go

Laurie

[Jewel]

When this whole thing started I was such a Carrie fan...but she just hasn't been able to make it work. She has a strong voice and a beautiful tone, but she needs a lot of training in my opinion! Plus, she might be a decent recording artist, but she looks absolutely terrified on stage. That's where Nadia and Vonzell overshadowed her big time. I like her, but she consistently picks bad songs. I'm a country music fan and a Martina McBride fan as well, but that song did nothing for her at all. :( I never even liked it when Martina sang it!

I was laughing the entire time Constantine was on stage. When we first saw him in auditions he seemed like a rocker, but he's excelled in Broadway type performances since then, so when he tries to go back to rocking like he did last night, it just doesn't work! He kept giving the camera that Porn Star look, and I just cracked up. :D He would be very good on Broadway, but I don't think he's versatile enough to be the American Idol.

Anthony has a decent voice, but I can't get past his Boy Band persona.

Bo has me very conflicted. I love the guy, and last night he excelled, singing just the perfect song for him. Problem is, he's more of a performer than a recording artist, and they're after someone who can sell records. I'm not sure he has the versatility to do it.

Vonzell is shocking me every week. She just keeps getting better. She was flat a few times last night, but all in all I have to admire her for picking the tough songs and coming through with them. She's a risk taker, and it's paying off.

And DH and I call Scott 'the serial killer'. The guy just has that look of someone who's got crazy Aunt Mabel stuffed in a trunk in the basement or something. :eek: He's creeped me out since the auditions. His voice is OK, but he's not the 'Idol' type. In my opinion, he's gone tonight.

I have a feeling it's going to be Bo and Vonzell in the finals, and I have no idea which one will win, or who I even want to win! :o

[lindrusso]

Originally posted by Jewel
And DH and I call Scott 'the serial killer'.

I almost said that too, but I decided that wasn't quite the vibe I was getting. He strikes me as the type to be more "postal" (pardon the term) - someone who might just come in and start blowing people away because he was wronged in some way, especially with that big old chip on his shoulder.

[Melman]

I shouldn't make comments less than 30 minutes before the kickoff show starts. I just finished watching the tape. I stick with my unofficial vote above...Scott, please just go away. I agree totally with the postal comment, the serial murderer comment, and all the other negative comments. As I watched the look on his face after the criticism last night, I actually had a fleeting thought that I wouldn't want to be Randy, Paula or Simon...I'd be afraid for he'd come after me. He just makes me think of a bully from the 'hood.

Bo was awesome. I think this week, I'm pulling totally for him. Carrie is gorgeous and has an incredible voice and smile, but she still doesn't seem comfortable on the stage. Vonzell is a great entertainer, but her voice doesn't seem to be her strength. I really like Constantine but I didn't like the song he picked. I'd rather see him doing cheesy "I think I love you". :D Anthony. <sigh> He seems like such a genuinely nice guy...even his family seemed like the Beaver Cleaver family of the mid-2000's. :D I'm with other people who see him as "boy band" material...and I really dislike boy bands.

But, Scott...just go away!! I can't understand ANYONE voting for him...not even his family. He's just so easy to dislike!

[Beth H]

Has Scott Savol made a deal with the devil? Does he have compromising photos of Simon Cowell? How was he not in the bottom three? How is he still in this?

Even though I was not a Constantine fan, there's no way he deserved to go before Scott.

Stunning.

[sharris315]

Holy Cow!! Constantine!!!

AND Scott not even in the bottom three!!

What a shock!!!


Shar

[Melman]

This is just so wrong. I hate the results tonight. How in the world can there be that many people who vote for the thug that he had the 3rd highest number of votes????? The people in the audience booed so loudly when he was sent back to safety. There's no way on God's green earth that he's better than Anthony, Vonzell, and Constantine.

I'm really going to miss that pouty stare into the camera.

Theory...there were 4 really good singers, one really nice guy, and a thug. I guess most of America heard the 4 great singers and the nice guy and voted for all 5 kind of across the board. The thugs of American united and all voted for one. I guess if you like his style, you don't like the other 5 at all. Yeah...I bet he'll sell tons of records. I want to see him sink like a rock....moreso than Justin G. :D HAHAHA...justice.

Ok...all my votes are officially for Bo for the rest of the season.

[gertdog]

OMG. Many, many bad words were uttered in my living room this evening. That was awful.

My husband commented that the producers will probably become so desperate to oust Scott that they will have him "Nancy Kerrigan-ed" or else "leak" more negative news stories about him. I was thinking maybe they could arrange for a Cleveland-wide phone outage or something. Ugh.

[sharris315]

Question: Who confirms and validates the voting??? Seriously. Does anybody besides the execs of the show??


Shar

[lhall]

I'm just so bummed! I can't believe that Scott & Anthony are still around. I will say that I liked the way Constantine handled it.

Leigh

[funnybone]

I guess the people in Cleveland have nothing better to do these days so they all voted for Scott. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[slknight]

That was disgusting. I. just. don't. get. it. :( :( :(

[lindrusso]

AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Laura]

I didn't see it; were Constantine, Vonzell and Anthony in the bottom 3? Who is voting for this guy??? I can see him early on sticking around when others left, but I just don't get this. It's that whole Jasmine thing from last year again.

I would think the execs would be starting to get worried. Scott just doesn't exude "American Idol" in my opinion.

[charliecat]

I don't understand. Someone has got to be hacking into their system. There is no legitimate way Scott has gotten this far. Blackmail, death threats...something is definately wrong.

[aggie94]

Originally posted by Melman
The people in the audience booed so loudly when he was sent back to safety.

Actually, I think the audience was booing the fact that Constantine was in the bottom 3. I am not a Scott Savol fan, but I don't have any animosity towards him. He's of the same caliber as Anthony, and they both should have been sent home long ago, well before Constantine and Anwar.

Constantine wouldn't have won the competition, but I was still very sad to see him go tonight. :(

[imloulou]

Originally posted by tperes
I totally expect Anthony to try to work a Cher song in if he makes it through tonight! UGH! He is SO CHEESEY!

ROFLMAO!!!

[imloulou]

Originally posted by Beth H
Has Scott Savol made a deal with the devil? Does he have compromising photos of Simon Cowell? How was he not in the bottom three? How is he still in this?


LOL!

I am the furthest thing from a "Constantine fan" but...Scott or Anthony should have gone tonight and Scott, Anthony and Constantine should have been the bottom 3.

Something is up with the voting...Scott must have "people workin' for him" I CANNOT BELIEVE HE IS NOT IN THE BOTTOM 3!!!!!

Somethin' is screwey!

[Gecko]

I guess I agree with everyone here - I just don't get it. OK it wasn't Constantine's best performance but to send him home? I would never have guessed in a million years that Scott would be in the top three. And what did they say, the person going home has received over 35 million votes in the competition so far???? It just doesn't add up. I'm sorry but I guess I am just not as loyal regarding my state as people from Cleveland are. Last season I knew it was time for Jasmine to go and there was no way I was voting for her. My vote goes to the person who has the talent not because they come from my state. It just goes to show that good performers are reliant on the votes, and it doesn't always matter how good you are. My votes are also now going to Bo.

[mom2garret]

I am soooooooooooooo PI$$ed!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
How did Scott make it thru and not even in the bottom 3!! :confused:
I can't stand him. I am starting to think that the whole story he gave about his father thinking he would never be anything was a huge hoax. He has to go and go NOW! I will add that I didn't think Constantine would win but Scott should have been gone long before now. Ugh.................WHO IS VOTING FOR THAT CREEP??
Now I can go back to my morning java :p
Jodi

[North Shore]

Please don't assume everyone in the Cleveland area is voting for Scott. Everyone I know thought he would go weeks ago and even the local newcasters thought he would be done after Tuesday night. It was a really awful thought that there might be a thousand Scotts walking around Cleveland!!

[greysangel]

the only way it will ever be "fair" or what america really wants is if they find a way to log in the votes as one per phone number or household or something. I have a girl at work who tells me her and her husband were on the phone all night voting time and time again. There is something wrong with this picture :eek: :D I personally am not inclined to vote 100 times for the person I like..I thought the whole idea was vote for the best..umm once :) But I can see where devoted fans, friends, family would sit on the horn and keep voting until it's closed. Which kind of screws up the voting ideal IMO :o

j

[ChiefExec]

Wow. So sad to see Constantine go. I thought he'd make it to the final three on his looks alone, if nothing else! :D

[mrswaz]

I certainly didn't see that one coming last night. Constanitine may not have done his best last night- but seriously- who the heck is voting for Scott? Quite simply he is not a very good singer. Who the heck is going to buy his CD...:mad: Or buy a poster...yeah I want THAT hanging on my daughter's bedroom wall.:rolleyes:

[mom2garret]

Originally posted by mrswaz
Or buy a poster...yeah I want THAT hanging on my daughter's bedroom wall.:rolleyes:

<snort>

[SueK]

Originally posted by North Shore
Please don't assume everyone in the Cleveland area is voting for Scott.
LOL - my sister lives there and I know they sure aren't voting for him, either!

When I think "American Idol" material, Scott definitely does not fit the bill. He looks like a thug and has way too much of an attitude problem.

I didn't watch the show last night, but was shocked when I logged on today and saw that not only did he not get the boot, but that he wasn't even in the bottom three! :confused:

[NewMrsG]

Wow. I actually had tears in my eyes last night - I was just shocked. And honestly don't even feel like I much want to watch the show anymore.

What a depressing results show.

[tperes]

I was an hour late to work and as I was walking to my office my boss came strolling down the hallway. As soon as he saw me he starts yelling "I AM SO ANNOYED!" I thought it was b/c I was so late, but no, he was talking about AI! :D

I, too, am in shock. Constatine was fun. Scott is scary. I have decided I will vote for Vonzell, Bo, and Carrie from now on, just to counter at least one vote each for the other two. I just couldn't believe it when Scott was put in the top 3. I, too, think it was all made up about his dad in the beginning. I think that video montage must have won him sympathy votes or something. Maybe he just keeps voting over and over for himself?

If Scott or Anthony wins this year, I PROMISE I will never watch AI again. This time, I mean it!

[mrswaz]

I just read a story about Constantine getting voted off on abcnews. This is a little excerpt from it.

"Maroulis' exit came less than a week after Koch Records announced that the label would release his old band's pre-`Idol' album. Earlier in the season, Maroulis was shown informing his disgruntled bandmates of his "Idol" intentions."

At least he gets something out of the whole AI experience. I'm sure there will be plenty of Constantine fans snapping up that one.

[ChiefExec]

Did anyone catch the comment by Savol that, if one were to visit Cleveland, they'd see millions of Scotts walking around? :confused:

Boy, is tah ta scary thought or what? :rolleyes:

[mom2garret]

BTW, did anyone lese catch the glimpse of Scott when Constantine was voted off? Am I nuts or did he turn to his left and smile? Gawd I can't stand him. As others have said, he MUST be sitting on his phone for two hours voting for himself. Also, what about Paula crying and comforting Constantine's mom?
Jodi

[mrswaz]

Oh It totally seemed like Scott was very smug when it was announced that Constantine was the one leaving. Again- he's so scary!!!

FWIW- the presales of Constantine's bands album is in the Amazon top 10 right now. Not one I would buy myself- but maybe he wanted off the show so that the band could move ahead with the album? Con fans everywhere are mourning and obviously ordering. Wonder if they will be a one album wonder.

[BethH]

I am equally stunned! What is going on in this country???? When I saw that Scott was safe, I figured that Anthony was going home for sure. I couldn't have been more surprised that Constantine was sent home -- sure, he was smarmy ... but at least he was entertaining.

Really, who is voting for Scott?????

I'm also a little embarassed at how upset I am about a reality tv show. :o

[gertdog]

Scott also makes me cringe with that little "Jesus pump" thing he does with his hands each week when he gets through. I don't know what to call it but it seems so contrived. I don't mean to bash prayer or religion- I just find this guy in particular, and his way of reacting to things, to be so very creepy.

Didn't mean to malign those of you in Cleveland who aren't voting for him, though! I just cannot imagine who actually is.

I do feel for Constantine. I wasn't a fan- I generally felt like he was more of an actor playing a role than a singer with a single strong identity. Last night was the first time I actually saw him looking somewhat uncertain, and his "retrospective" video montage seemed quite earnest. I think I would have liked him more if we'd seen more of that side of him and a bit less of him playing a role and flirting with the camera.

I'm on board with the plan to vote for Bo, Carrie, and Vonzell- and maybe even Anthony!- if it will help get rid of Scott. :)

[Laura B]

Happy dance!!

Thank you, America, for getting rid of Mr. Cheesey-sleazy-broadway-singer-turned-wannabe-rocker!! Puke, puke, puke!

Someone mentioned on last week's thread that Constantine seems like he is "acting" the role of American Idol. I think that assessment is right on, especially after hearing him refer last night to the other contestants as "the other members of the cast."

I truly thought that Anthony and Scott would go before Constantine, and they probably deserved to. But I was thrilled with last night's vote because it guarantees that Constancheese won't be in the final two. Scott and Anthony are bound to be the next two to go.

[foodfiend]

Granted, the results did catch me by surprise, but it's actually good publicity for Constantine. Casting agents and record labels now know who he is, and he won't have to conform to "Idol" requirements anymore.
As for Scott and his looks -- it's just a TV show.

[ChiefExec]

It may be just a TV show, but he assaulted his girlfriend in real life. That's why he gives *me* the creeps, and I think that's a pretty valid reason.

[funnybone]

My 10 year old is a big Cleveland Cavaliers fan (LeBron James more like it) and he was the one that said that it was the Cav's fault for not making the playoffs and thus Scott winning. If the Cav's had been in the playoffs, then the city of Cleveland would have been busy watching the game and not AI. LOL.

[imloulou]

Originally posted by BethH
surprised that Constantine was sent home -- sure, he was smarmy ... but at least he was entertaining.

I'm also a little embarassed at how upset I am about a reality tv show. :o

Smarmy...I love that word:D

[cniles]

Originally posted by tperes

However, I totally expect Anthony to try to work a Cher song in if he makes it through tonight! UGH! He is SO CHEESEY!

Hee hee!! We call him Rico Suave!:D

[Laurielee]

I was just shocked, not only to have Constatine voted off, but having Vonzell in the bottom too,

"I don't understand. Someone has got to be hacking into their system. There is no legitimate way Scott has gotten this far. Blackmail, death threats...something is definately wrong."

That immediatley was my thought, for him not even to make the bottom 3, I thought something is up.

And I agree with JeAnne, I dont think voters should be allowed oto vote more than once.

I think there is someone that has hacked something that can redial and vote by computer 1000s of times

Laurie

[MNGirlTX]

I had to travel for my job yesterday, and wasn't able to see the results show.

I actually thought Scott was the worst on Tuesday, with Constantine the 2nd worst.

I've read on another board that there is a group of people that is voting for Scott...something about a website called "vote for the worst" or some such thing...that the concept is to screw with AI and have the winner this season be the worst of the top 12.

Don't know how true it is as I haven't looked into it...it was posted by someone who belongs to an Idol board.

So, I guess that means that the rest of us just have to vote - more than once (which I don't understand, either. With the way technology is, they should be able to limit the number of votes that come from a phone number) - for the people we actually LIKE.

Lori

[MISSINDI]

I think voting should be limited to one per household too. Or charge 0.50/vote and donate the money to charity.

[Beth H]

Oh dear. Smoking Gun.com has posted some info about Bo - he's had several brushes with the law for drug possession:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0427051_bo_bice_american_idol_1.html

[Gecko]

Looks like Bo is not the only one in the headlines today. I read about this little snippet regarding Paula in my newspapaer today. When I first read the headline I thought they were talking about her and Constantine :eek: - but it was about her relationship with another contestant from season 2. Paula denies all allegations.

Paula Abdul (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4494299.stm)

[funnybone]

Originally posted by mrswaz

FWIW- the presales of Constantine's bands album is in the Amazon top 10 right now. Not one I would buy myself- but maybe he wanted off the show so that the band could move ahead with the album? Con fans everywhere are mourning and obviously ordering. Wonder if they will be a one album wonder.

Actually I heard that he signed his rights over to the band prior to joining AI so that AI wouldn't have any hand in the CD.

As for the allegations with Paula and the previous contestant Corey, I doubt there is any truth. He was booted off for not being truthful about his past, so why would we believe he is truthful now. Just MHO.

[Escher]

I used to have a big crush on Paula. I'm glad she's back on tv...she's as attractive as ever.

(Though she's far, far too soft w/ her "criticism")

[foodfiend]

Bo does drugs...not a huge surprise. Though he should have known people have have found out about it if he were successful on AI.

[Beth H]

Bo does drugs...not a huge surprise.

Definitely not a surprise or really an issue (to me at least). But I hope, hope, hope that he disclosed this to the folks at AI beforehand.

He does not have a record, BTW - he did a pre-trial intervention thing.

[dublchk]

Paula should be more concerned about acting loaded (on painkillers?) each week in front of millions of viewers than some rumor about an affair with a previous contestant. Especially since he has a credibility problem.

I thought her tears last night were too much. She needs an intervention of her own.

I wasn't sorry to see Constantine go, but have to agree that Scott should have gone LONG before him.

I must confess that no matter how goofy the judges and contestants act, I'll still keep watching.

[lindrusso]

Originally posted by MNGirlTX
I've read on another board that there is a group of people that is voting for Scott...something about a website called "vote for the worst" or some such thing...that the concept is to screw with AI and have the winner this season be the worst of the top 12.

Oh man! That would be the worst! How sadistic. But kind of funny at the same time......

[MNGirlTX]

Originally posted by lindrusso


Oh man! That would be the worst! How sadistic. But kind of funny at the same time......

And, actually, I did have some spare time (okay - trying to avoid work) this afternoon and found the website. It does exist and Scott is the poster child. And, it looks like the people posting there are...less than nice...

Ugh.

Lori

[Laura B]

So, just to be clear... we are all disgusted and shocked that Scott has some domestic violence in his past (only a misdemeanor disordely conduct on his record) but so far several of you are not at all put off by Bo's felony cocaine possession charge?!

[gertdog]

Speaking for myself only- I find Bo's cocaine possession charge off-putting and disappointing, but it doesn't bother me in the same way(or as much) as Scott attacking his girlfriend while she was holding their child, or having to be kept away from his former high school by restraining order. The fact that Bo used cocaine (and completed some sort of drug diversion program) wouldn't prevent me from voting for him, but I've thought Scott was creepy from Day 1 and would never have voted for him even if some of his past behavior hadn't come to light, so I can't really compare the two in that sense.

[ChiefExec]

Yes, Laura, domestic violence, in my view, is one of the most cowardly, disturbiing crimes out there. I never said I thought Bo was da bomb for being a cokehead or anything; I just find Scott Savol foul and creepy and the crime he committed only adds to his lovely aura. :rolleyes:

[mom2garret]

Originally posted by MNGirlTX


It does exist and Scott is the poster child.
Lori

I think that it is awful people are playing with the voting like that. Don't be surprised if Idol doesn't come back for another round. I bet if the set up for the worse to win continues, Idol will stop all together. :mad:
Jodi

[aggie94]

I think it's ironic that so many of us, who hate to be judged, have no problem "judging" others based on stories circulated in the media, which may or may not be true. Stories generally have another side to them.

I'm not saying Scott Savol didn't get arrested for assault, or that Bo Bice didn't get arrested for cocaine possession. So just because Scott pleaded to assault means it happened like the media says it did? And just because Bo entered a diversion program means he was guilty? I'm surprised that so many people are so quick to trust that the media tells "the truth." :rolleyes:

[Laura]

I think you are right Eva, I mean I often doubt the media. That said, I haven't heard anyone disputing the accounts of Scott's arrest. But regardless of whether the accounts of his arrest are true, his whole persona bugs me; I know I am only getting snippets of the person, but those snippets bug me. And I too am in the category of one who is bugged more by domestic assault charge than a drug possession.

[Beth H]

I find Bo's cocaine possession charge off-putting and disappointing, but it doesn't bother me in the same way(or as much) as Scott attacking his girlfriend while she was holding their child, or having to be kept away from his former high school by restraining order. The fact that Bo used cocaine (and completed some sort of drug diversion program) wouldn't prevent me from voting for him,

I couldn't agree more with this. I think that there is a distinction between using drugs (not that using drugs is good) and hitting/throwing things at your girlfriend. If Bo had been arrested for selling drugs on a playground, that would be a totally different story.

On the show at least, Bo seems like a stand-up person - I noticed he was the first to go out on stage to show support when Constantine's swan song was wraping up (and Scott was the last). Hopefully he's grown up and realized that using coke and pot isn't the smartest thing to do.

[mrswaz]

Originally posted by funnybone


Actually I heard that he signed his rights over to the band prior to joining AI so that AI wouldn't have any hand in the CD.




Yes, but apparantly he and his bandmates are very tight. He signed his rights away for one year (had he won AI it would have been 5 years). I will bet that they make certain Constantine gets his share. And if he and his band can manage to be successful- what's one year in the grand scheme of things?

[gertdog]

Originally posted by aggie94
So just because Scott pleaded to assault means it happened like the media says it did? And just because Bo entered a diversion program means he was guilty? I'm surprised that so many people are so quick to trust that the media tells "the truth." :rolleyes:

Oh, I'm certain that there are other sides, or perhaps many sides, to both stories. But just as the stories in the media aren't necessarily fact, neither do I think they are without basis- the arrests did happen, and we each draw our own conclusions from what reportedly happened. It's kind of shame that neither of these guys can talk to the media and *tell* their version of the story right now, IMO.

[Beth H]

Apparently Bo was forthright with the AI people about his prior arrests:

"From the beginning, Bo was honest and forthcoming in revealing his previous indiscretions and their outcome," the network said in response to the report on thesmokinggun.com.

So - his status on the show will not be affected.

[MrsReber]

Sad to see Constantine go- especially BEFORE Anthony and Scott! What in the world??!


Ironically, I know 2 people in prison right now in PA. One guy I know through my in-laws. He's in jail for beating up his girlfriend. The other guy is an old friend of mine from HS. He committed a horrible, drug related crime. I can honestly say I'm more disgusted with the guy who beat up his girlfriend.

And, as Eva pointed out- the media is often quite wrong, as I found out after the HS friend's arrest.

Now, back to AI......:D

[MISSINDI]

I don't think it's a question of judging, more so than having an opinion. Unfortunately, domestic violence is a sad truth, and Scott hasn't denied it. That said, I certainly don't have to reward him by voting for him. 'Sides, he's not the best singer there anyway.

That said, does that mean Bo's alleged cocaine charges are easier to swallow? I think comparatively speaking, it's certainly a lesser crime, and he was forthcoming about it. Does it alter my opinion of Bo? Sure, a little bit, but that's just based on my own opinions and beliefs, and everyone has to come to their own conclusions.

Any time someone does something in a public forum, they are putting themselves out there for public opinion. Fair? Maybe not. But unfortunately, that's life.

Finally watched the elimination show just now -- Constantine handled it really well and did a great job on his closing song. More power to him.