What did you think of the LOST finale?

[dreamer]

I thought the Lost finale tonight was really gripping. Do a lot of you watch? I actually only watched it a few times before, but somehow got hooked enough to want to watch the finale. It really has great acting I think, and 'good production values' (I'll pretend I really know what that phrase means;).) The show reminds me of a mixture of the X-Files and Raiders of the Lost Ark.

So what do you all think? And what do you think is down the shaft that they exposed at the end of the finale? Or should I just ask the big questions: What else is on the island, and were they all brought there for a reason?!:confused:

My questions aren't meant to be too serious-- just musings before I go off to sleep. (Truth be told I found it a bit scary, and just needed to socialize at the computer so my dreams aren't too scary!!!);)

[Laura]

Okay, I got creeped out by the finale. The scary guys taking Walt freaked me out. The endless shaft was a bit weird too. I admit they have me hooked, but they could lose me if it gets too creepy.

[beacooker]

That part with Walt was creepy. As soon as Danielle said that she heard 'the others' whispering that they wanted the boy, I knew that the boat seen on the radar was not a good thing. The back of my neck was tingling the whole time the boat was approaching them. DH thought that Boone would be one of the guys on the boat, and that 'the others' would be people who died on the island. I don't think he was, but I was trying to get a look at the people to see if I recognized any of them. It was too dark to tell.

I loved when Ardst (or whatever his name was - the guy who went boom) was talking to Hurley!! Saying what a clique that group was, and why did Kate get all the best stuff for her shelter, why did the Asian guy only catch fish for the people in the clique, and that most people on the island had lost weight. LOL. It really makes me wonder though - was that just pointing fun at the show, or does it mean something? I mean, its easy to brush the other survivors off as not being important to the show, so they don't get focussed on, but then why even have them there? And this isn't the first time it has been mentioned on the show that its kind of odd that there are 40-50 people who survived the crash, yet only about 10 that get interacted with. They even referenced it a second time last night, with the reference to someone sleeping with Scott/Steve (when Sawyer was reading the messages in the bottle).

Another thing - when Sawyer was reading the messages in the bottle, he said something like 'Who is Hugo, and how did he get $160 million?'. Later, when Locke was asking Hurley to move the other pack of dynamite, he called him Hugo, and he (Hugo) looked kind of surprised. I wasn't sure if it was because he was surprised to be asked to move the dynamite (which I thought was kind of weird, too - why him, when he had made it clear he didn't want to move it), or because he hadn't told people his name was Hugo.

I can't wait till next season of this show! :)

[Escher]

Fantastic episode... I too was a bit surprised by the "Hugo" popping up suddenly...

and I had the same thought about people on the boat... I could've swore I saw Arnst on the boat, but I tried to look again, and couln't confirm. I wish I had instant replay for things like that.

Sawyer is soo.... sawyer.

Of course, now they are screwed...15 miles from shore, and a burning raft... looked salvageable, but I bet their sail is toast, which means they are adrift.

Now then, did anyone see the "deleted scene" that was advertised on Good Morning America?

[pilgrim719]

Yeah, the last scenes with The Others and also the hatch were pretty creepy. As soon as Danielle said she heard The Others whispering about going to get the boy, I got on the phone to a friend of mine and said "It's Walt! They want Walt, not Turnip Head, and The Others are the blip on the radar!" I wonder what they want with Walt? I mean he obviously has some sort of "powers" or something, what with being able to materialize polar bears and such. I'm also curious why the boat turned back toward the island before the shot up the flare from the raft -- was it because the hatch had just been blown open and they somehow knew that? Oh, and as for looking for familiar faces on the boat, I didn't see any but was assuming to see Ethan at the wheel when they drove up to the raft. I still don't think he's dead.

And when did Claire scratch Danielle so badly?? Not sure of the amount of time that's passed on the island since Claire was kidnapped, but we were led to believe she had been kidnapped by The Others...a group Danielle doesn't seem to be involved with...so when did Claire scratch her and why?

Back at the hatch...So they've blown the lid off an openless hatch, only to find an endless tunnel with a ladder that appears to have been destroyed while whoever/whatever was climbing down it for the last time. Were they so afraid of something/someone on the island, or of the island themselves that they built this thing to seal themselves in? Who put the numbers on the outside and what could they be for? Why in the world would John light the fuse with Hurley running toward him screaming not to? Couldn't he have waited 10 seconds longer to hear why Hurley was so upset?

My favorite line in the episode was when Hurley told Jack he a had a little Arnst on him. I burst out laughing, but perhaps that's my twisted humor. :p

Kari

[Sarah428]

Originally posted by beacooker
Another thing - when Sawyer was reading the messages in the bottle, he said something like 'Who is Hugo, and how did he get $160 million?'. Later, when Locke was asking Hurley to move the other pack of dynamite, he called him Hugo, and he (Hugo) looked kind of surprised. I wasn't sure if it was because he was surprised to be asked to move the dynamite (which I thought was kind of weird, too - why him, when he had made it clear he didn't want to move it), or because he hadn't told people his name was Hugo.

I can't wait till next season of this show! :)

I seem to remember a scene where Hurley is talking to someone and says how little they know about each other, so he shares a fun fact and says his real name is Hugo...or maybe that he's worth millions...it's blurry, too many details;).

Ever since I had my daughter I can't stand to watch scenes where children are separated from their parents. When Clair realized Aaron was gone and watching Walt scream for his dad broke me heart.

Boy, this is going to be a long summer of waiting!

[Escher]

Did you catch?

The girls soccer team at the airport...each sporting one of the ill-fated numbers?

[pilgrim719]

Originally posted by Escher
Did you catch?

The girls soccer team at the airport...each sporting one of the ill-fated numbers?

NO! Cool! That's a creative way to slip those numbers into another scene. Wow, I cannot wait to find out what these numbers mean, and I hope they give us at least a partial answer next season.

Kari

[Laura]

Originally posted by Escher
Did you catch?

The girls soccer team at the airport...each sporting one of the ill-fated numbers?

Wow, you guys pay so much more attention to these episodes than I do. I am like Sarah, since having kids, anything involving children being taken away is almost too much. I think I am going to watch the reruns just so I can pick up on things like the numbers/names/people etc.

[Escher]

Facts we know about "Lost" (taken from the Lost MB)

1 Hurley had the comic
2 It still won't be easy to get into the hatch/shaft.
3 The others look just like regular people (weird and spooky but still like people)
4 Danielle did take the baby but now we know why
5 the blip was a boat but not what they thought
6 the blip was the others
7 it appears that the others and the whisperers are the same
8 Hurley as it appears was not meant to be on the plane. However he is most definatly connected to the island somehow because of the numbers.
9 monster sounds like it is definatly a machine of some sort.
10 The monster/SS live under ground and most likely the others as well
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418 Artz does NOT know how to handle dynamite.

[Escher]

More Lost stuff:

http://www.driveshaftband.com/

[MNGirlTX]

Another number thing I noticed last night...when Hurley and Kate were walking in the jungle, he was muttering the numbers sort of under his breath and Kate said, "Did you say 23?" He said, "Why? Does it mean something to you?" And she said that the marshall turned her in for $23,000. I noticed when they showed Locke at the airport in his wheelchair that he was waiting at Gate 23.

Hmmmmmmm.....

I also knew as soon as Danielle said "They said they wanted the boy," that meant Walt.

Hurley makes me laugh.

I liked the way you saw different castaways passing each other in the airport. Like when Michael was on the phone with his mom, Locke wheeled by in the background.

I'm still very confused.

Lori

[syzygy]

Originally posted by Escher
Now then, did anyone see the "deleted scene" that was advertised on Good Morning America?
Yes, it was Sun trying to comfort Claire after Danielle took the baby. Claire said she knew they were going to come back for the baby and Sun said, "So that's why you didn't name him?" and Claire affirmed it. If you remember, in the scene they aired, as Charlie and Sayid started to run after Danielle, Claired screamed to get her Aaron back. I guess having a name assured he would be returned to her.

[beacooker]

There is a very strong parental theme in the show, isn't there? When she was pregnant, Claire didn't want Aaron, and he was taken from her. Walt's dad (forgot his name!) didn't want Walt (in the airport scene last night), and Walt was taken. Danielle had her daughter taken from her. The dr guy (forgot his name, too) had issues with his parents. As did Sawyer. And Kate. Hurley's mom seems to play a large role in his life. Jin works for Sun's father.

I read on a recap that when that bird was flying away in the jungle, it sqwawked 'Hurley'. I didn't notice that. I hope DH didn't erase last night's episode - I think I need to re-watch.

[Sarah428]

Originally posted by beacooker
.I read on a recap that when that bird was flying away in the jungle, it sqwawked 'Hurley'. I didn't notice that. I hope DH didn't erase last night's episode - I think I need to re-watch.
DH and I both thought it sounded like Claire yelling "Charlie".

[Heidi]

Posted on another board I read: "Did you notice when Hurley was running through the airport, that the numbers were literally EVERYWHERE?? His hotel room on the 23rd floor, his rental car giving out at 42mph, giving $1600 to the old scooter dude"

all this in addition to the soccer team jerseys.

Also, here is a link to one of the most convincing "monster" theories I've seen yet:theory (http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=393091)

[pilgrim719]

Originally posted by beacooker

I read on a recap that when that bird was flying away in the jungle, it sqwawked 'Hurley'. I didn't notice that. I hope DH didn't erase last night's episode - I think I need to re-watch.

I wish I had it on the DVR to re-watch to catch the things I missed. Hadn't thought about that before. Let us know if the bird really did say Hurley, if your DH hasn't erased it yet! :)

On the parental theme...Locke was given up by his parents, only to be taken advantage of by them later in life. Didn't Boone work for his mother's company?

Kari

[dreamer]

It was so much fun to read all your ideas! (I started the thread before going to sleep last night, and am just getting back to the BB today.) I agree that the part about Walt being taken was really distressing. I hadn't noticed a lot of the things you all had, like the Gate 23 thing! One thing I wondered was what the significance of some of the names could be. Like 'Hugo' is an unusual name, and I immediately thought of Victor Hugo, author of (fittingly) Les Miserables!! And Sawyer on the raft: Tom Sawyer?

Anyway-- I just hope it doesn't turn out like Twin Peaks in the sense of never giving a satisfying conclusion. I didn't watch Twin Peaks all the time, but DH did, and he felt like in the end the writers got so mixed up themselves that even they couldn't straighten everything out and have it make sense!!!

[Heidi]

Also, the blonde girl on the boat (the Others) who threw the molotov cocktail...could she be Alex?

[pilgrim719]

Originally posted by Heidi

Also, here is a link to one of the most convincing "monster" theories I've seen yet:theory (http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=393091)

That's very believable, I think! Makes complete sense based on the events of last night's finale. But if it is the case for this island, is Michael Crichton somehow involved with Lost, or are they just "borrowing" his idea? Very cool, though! So maybe the hatch was put in place to try and keep something from getting out, rather than to prevent something from getting in?

Kari

[Heidi]

Don't know who runs the Driveshaft site Escher posted, but I was just browsing it. There is a section for media mentions of the flight 815 crash, and here is the last paragraph of one of them:

"We don't know what happened to Harold any more than we know what happened to his research. Word in Silicone Valley is that all of Harold's research was in his laptop on board the plane, headed to an important meeting with the CEOs of the companies leading the nano-technology revolution. But the truth may never be discovered, about the crash or about Harold's top secret work."

Hmmmmmm...

[Kristilyn1]

I read that Michael Crichton book! Funny, I never tried to make any comparisons. The black cloud of whatever that Kate and Jack saw last night certainly would support this theory. Plus, the idea that they can look like different people. I think I'd be disappointed if it was such a "already been done" type of thing though. Plus, why would they need the children? Also, they are on a deserted island--in the book they were trying to avoid detection. It's not like on an island they have to worry what people see or don't see. Just come on out and have a picnic! Why bother making themselves look like anything?!

Kristi

[Blissful_in_TX]

Originally posted by pilgrim719
Why in the world would John light the fuse with Hurley running toward him screaming not to? Couldn't he have waited 10 seconds longer to hear why Hurley was so upset?

Remember when Locke was so upset and beating on the hatch saying "I've done everything you asked me to...." and then the hatch lights up? Surely he must have seen or learned something then....I'm guessing whatever it was, he's trying to get to it come hell or high water.

[AndreaU]

Originally posted by Escher
Sawyer is soo.... sawyer.

:p (Never had him pegged as a Bob Marley fan, though.)

[dreamer]

Can someone tell me- since I didn't watch every episode- last night they showed how Locke couldn't walk before the plane flight, and needed to be carried on board. So how is it that he can walk on the island? Was that explained in a prior episode? TIA!

[PAMMELA]

Dreamer,

Not really "explained". It's the island that did it. :)

[RebeccaT]

I had to force myself not to open this thread yesterday, since I had to record the finale! I watched it yesterday. It was such a great episode! But I have to admit, I never saw the connection with the other boat and the Others, not until you guys mentioned it. Seeing Walt taken like that, and the heartbreak of Michael that he was losing his son again, was awful. So do we think that Walt is being taken back to the island? Are Michael, Jin, and (hopefully, if he wasn't fatally shot) Sawyer going to get back?

I am now wondering if Danielle and Ethan are in on something together. Maybe Ethan isn't one of the Others, but is actually fighting the others with her.

I was really worried that Charlie was going to do something stupid like kill Danielle after she handed over the baby. Of course, he DID do something stupid (and predictable) when he grabbed one of the statues with heroin inside. Grrrrr.

The bit with the "security system" was very strange... this black spirit thing. I did think as soon as they opened the hatch that it must be connected to the security system going underground. I do wonder what Locke was thinking when he said that he wanted Jack to let him go underground because he was being "tested." He really thinks he's indestructable now, doesn't he?

Not sure how Locke knew Hurley was Hugo, and why he chose that moment to call him that. I think that Hurley has only told Charlie his real name.

Still stewing on the whole thing... looking forward to Television Without Pity's recap so that I can get the things I didn't catch.

[Sarah428]

Originally posted by RebeccaT
I am now wondering if Danielle and Ethan are in on something together. Maybe Ethan isn't one of the Others, but is actually fighting the others with her.

Of course, he DID do something stupid (and predictable) when he grabbed one of the statues with heroin inside. Grrrrr.
Wait! Isn't Ethan dead?!? And I missed Charlie picking up a statue!

[RebeccaT]

Well, we know that Charlie shot Ethan, but I don't know if we can know that he's DEAD.

And I wasn't sure about Charlie picking up a statue, I hoped he hadn't, but they did a close up on the statue in his knapsack right at the end of the episode when they were all crowding around he, Claire, and the baby.

[Sarah428]

Originally posted by RebeccaT
Well, we know that Charlie shot Ethan, but I don't know if we can know that he's DEAD.

And I wasn't sure about Charlie picking up a statue, I hoped he hadn't, but they did a close up on the statue in his knapsack right at the end of the episode when they were all crowding around he, Claire, and the baby.

I'll be so sad if he did pick one up:(, but I saw it coming.

[MNGirlTX]

Just an FYI - ABC is re-broadcasting the show on Saturday night if you missed it...or missed SOMETHING. I read on another board that you could see the "monster" reflected in Locke's eye right before it snatched him. So, I'm going to have to tape Saturday night and watch for it.

I'm also hoping that Charlie just picked up the statue...and there's no heroin in it. How likely is that?

Lori

[dreamer]

Originally posted by PAMMELA
Dreamer,

Not really "explained". It's the island that did it. :)

Thanks for the reply. Was Locke able to walk immediately after the crash? Was he surprised when he could (or was he faking all along)?

Also, I keep wondering about the significance of people's names. Like John Locke- is he the lock/key to the secrets of the island? Or does his name reference the famous philosopher?
And do I remember correctly that he surprised whoever asked him what his vocation had been (they thought he might've been in the military or something) when he said he'd worked for a company that made, like, boxes or something?

And isn't his smile, when he says something serious, REALLY CREEPY?!!:eek:

Or am I just too into this?!!:rolleyes: Sure is fun.:)

I wonder what clues will just turn out to be red herrings!

[MNGirlTX]

Originally posted by dreamer


Thanks for the reply. Was Locke able to walk immediately after the crash? Was he surprised when he could (or was he faking all along)?

Also, I keep wondering about the significance of people's names. Like John Locke- is he the lock/key to the secrets of the island? Or does his name reference the famous philosopher?
And do I remember correctly that he surprised whoever asked him what his vocation had been (they thought he might've been in the military or something) when he said he'd worked for a company that made, like, boxes or something?

And isn't his smile, when he says something serious, REALLY CREEPY?!!:eek:

Or am I just too into this?!!:rolleyes: Sure is fun.:)

I wonder what clues will just turn out to be red herrings!

Dreamer - You're not "too into this"; I don't think you have to worry, yet. I can't answer the question about Locke's walking. I missed a few episodes myself.

I do know that he worked at a box factory. And, Hurley BOUGHT a box factory after he won the lottery.

There are many theories relating to the significance of several characters names.

And, yes, he has a verrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy creepy smile. [shudder]

Lori

[stacy7272]

Originally posted by dreamer


Thanks for the reply. Was Locke able to walk immediately after the crash? Was he surprised when he could (or was he faking all along)?

I can't remember the actual sequence of events but yes, he could walk right away. I know they showed him waking up on the beach after the crash and they show him slowly moving his toes and slowly getting up. I THINK we didn't know that he had been paralyzed at this time. I believe that to us, it still seemed like he was just chekcing that he was okay after the crash.

Later, we see in a flashback that he was in a wheelchair and paralyzed. He was not happy at all with his life - he got no respect at his job and he had just gotten rejected for some kind of outing because he was paralyzed (that was why he was taking the plane back to L.A.).

[beacooker]

Originally posted by dreamer

Or am I just too into this?!!:rolleyes:

Too into this? I'll give you 'too into this'! This morning, I was driving and noticed a 'For Sale' sign on a house. The realtor listed on the sign was John Locke. And I caught myself thinking 'Maybe that's a clue!' :o :p :rolleyes:

[dreamer]

Originally posted by beacooker


Too into this? I'll give you 'too into this'! This morning, I was driving and noticed a 'For Sale' sign on a house. The realtor listed on the sign was John Locke. And I caught myself thinking 'Maybe that's a clue!' :o :p :rolleyes:

LOL --TOO FUNNY!! Thank you for a good chuckle. I can totally imagine my mind working like that!!!
And MNGirlTX and Stacy7272 I really enjoyed/appreciated your comments too-
Oh, and MNGirlTX, thanks so much for clueing me in that ABC is rebroadcasting the finale Saturday night. DH only caught a little of it on Wednesday, and was thrilled when I told him you said this. Checked the TV Guide, and sure enough, it's scheduled! I think he's anticipating his popcorn already!!

[MNGirlTX]

Originally posted by dreamer


Oh, and MNGirlTX, thanks so much for clueing me in that ABC is rebroadcasting the finale Saturday night. DH only caught a little of it on Wednesday, and was thrilled when I told him you said this. Checked the TV Guide, and sure enough, it's scheduled! I think he's anticipating his popcorn already!!

I watched Wednesday night with popcorn and a mojito...turned out all the lights - it was almost like being at the movie theatre; except I could stop the action for a potty break :D .

[dreamer]

Originally posted by MNGirlTX


I watched Wednesday night with popcorn and a mojito...turned out all the lights - it was almost like being at the movie theatre; except I could stop the action for a potty break :D .

Now that's my kind of movie theatre!:D

[stacy7272]

I just learned something new (to me) in TV Guide. It said that when Boone was talking into the radio in the airplane and he said, "We're survivors from flight 815" the response was, "We're the survivors from flight 815."

I always thought the response was, "There were no survivors on flight 815." Turns out the previews had the 'no survivors' version but the actual show was to have the 'we're the survivors' version.

What did you guys hear?

With the way it is supposed to be it can be interpreted in different ways. It could just be that the message was repeating or there could be survivors elsewhere or something else freaky.

[Heidi]

I thought the same as you, it said there were no survivors of flight 815. Hmmm, that's interesting, especially if you take it in conjuction with the other link you posted in the Season 2 thread.

[dreamer]

Well I re-watched the Season finale last night!! Fun!! DH hadn't seen it all the first time, so he really enjoyed it. One thing, I guess I've been under a lot of stress lately and have gotten confused, because I could've sworn a few scenes I saw Wed. night weren't in the finale. But maybe the scenes I'm remembering were from last week and my mind's playing tricks on me.

First thing I did this AM was read the cover story in this week's TV Guide- fun, though they didn't reveal much. (Surprise:rolleyes: )

My DH had a question: How is it that here they are on this island for months and months, without electricity or CVSs, and with their lives in peril at every turn, and yet most of the guys still seem to consider shaving a priority?!:confused: DH wants to know.;)

[KLynn]

Finally got to watch last night. Wow!

Another question to add to the mix is the connection between Hurley and Walt. As Hurley was getting on the plane, Walt grinned at him (after being so non-responsive with his dad), and Hurley smiled, as if they knew each other or something?

[dreamer]

Originally posted by KLynn
Finally got to watch last night. Wow!

Another question to add to the mix is the connection between Hurley and Walt. As Hurley was getting on the plane, Walt grinned at him (after being so non-responsive with his dad), and Hurley smiled, as if they knew each other or something?

Yeah! No answer here, but I noticed that too, and wondered.
Lots to wonder about. It's going to be a long summer!:)

[Escher]

I interpreted that as a "whew, I'm glad to be here" and "welcome aboard"...

but of course, the "meaningful glances" line of thought is more interesting.