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lindrusso
05-10-2001, 09:32 PM
For those who find cooking relaxing - How many of you don't have kids and how many of you have a drink while cooking? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Okay, let me go back to the beginning on this one! A while back I was reading how many of you find cooking relaxing and it startled me! I was startled because I suddenly realized that as much as I love to cook, I often find it stressful.
So, I was discussing this with my husband and he made a crack about "Yeah, but do they have kids?" or "Do they have a glass of wine while they cook?" http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif .
Anyway, I guess I just felt like I'm not a cook in the truest sense of the word because I find much of the process stress-inducing. I love the end results, but sometimes it's a harried and not-so-pleasant process getting there.
Part of it is kids. As soon as I'm in the kitchen, it's time to whine about being hungry, thirsty, tired, bored, sick, etc. I also feel pressure to get dinner on at a certain time to keep their schedule - bedtime by 8.
There are other reasons that it sometimes stresses me - poor planning, cooking after exercise(extra tired), end of the day blahs - but those things I can control and can work on. I do find that on days when I start dinner early, I enjoy it much more, but that isn't always possible.
So, is it possible to love cooking but still be stressed out by it?????
chefbec
05-10-2001, 10:14 PM
Hmm. Interesting thread. I love to cook when I'm really cooking (not throwing together dinner for the family). If I'm really cooking, I generally don't let the kids in the kitchen, I put on some music, and I've been known to pour a glass of wine. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif It's a truly wonderful experience. If the kids are in the kitchen when I'm cooking, it becomes stressful because I just can't concentrate on the cooking. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/mad.gif
So I think there are times the kids should be welcome in the kitchen (they've helped me cook many times), and there are times when the kitchen should be off limits! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
BosunsWife
05-11-2001, 01:06 AM
I find (generally) that cooking relaxes me. I have a toddler (age two), so I try to do the prep work for dinner when she is napping. Of course, when DH is gone (quite a bit), I find that cooking doesn't relax me as much as when he is home. Of course, when he is gone, nothing really relaxes me LOL!
I invite DD into the kitchen with me when I'm cooking. She drags her little stool over and watches. Then she will run over to her little kitchen and imitate. Or her latest is to pull my baking cloth and rolling pin cover out of the drawer. She then proceeds to put the rolling pin cover on her arm like its a long glove - its hysterical!
I would have to say that cooking relaxes me, yes I have a child and no I don't drink wine when I'm cooking!
kwormann
05-11-2001, 03:29 AM
It depends on my schedule....I get off work at 3:30 then go to the park or the gym to exercise then get home about5:30...at that point I am tired! Cooking then makes me stressed because I want to relax on the BB etc... (papers to grade, lessons to plan)so during the week I try to have things made ahead!
On the weekend, though, I love to cook...I find it relaxing. I usually use ti to prep for the week, too! I am looking forward to summer school being over so I can cook more often!
Kim
SusanL
05-11-2001, 04:07 AM
For the two of us, I find it relaxing. Although I enjoy it immensely, I get stressed for company because of getting everything out at the right temperature! I love sharing new recipes with friends and family but do get a bit stressed! I agree with Kim, Summer is a great time to cook, when the work load has diminished!! But sometimes it is too hot to cook http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/frown.gif - Gotta love that grill!!
MrsReber
05-11-2001, 06:07 AM
Oh, SusanL, I agree! I like to cook for just the 2 of us (soon to be 3 of us!). It's nice when you have the time and don't have a schedule to adhere to. I can cook really tasty, nutritious meals for me and my husband. However, if his mother drops by, I am at a loss as to what to make for dinner. I get all stressed out and feel like it has to all be perfect. We end up taking her out to eat or ordering a pizza. Isn't that sad? I do like going to family gatherings where I bring something because then I have plenty of time and if it comes out bad, I can improvise and bring something else! I am my own worst critic. Overall, I do find cooking and baking very relaxing and it does seem to relieve a bit of stress for me.
SandyM
05-11-2001, 06:28 AM
I'm one who enjoys the laborious tasks that most people despise - dicing, chopping, mixing, blending. Sometimes I use the trusty Cuisinart, but mostly I get joy and relaxation out of utilizing my chef's knife.
The problem I have is when I have company, getting everything done at the same time; and then, obsessing that everything is okay. That's where the stress factor comes in.
The older I get, the easier it gets, but one day I hope to be able to just "let it go".
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HDgirl
05-11-2001, 06:29 AM
Cooking is relaxing for me. Sometimes, if I am stressed or upset, I will head straight for the kitchen and start cooking...and it is not usually because dinner is soon...I'll just reheat it later.
I have two teens...'nuff said..so they are not around when I cook. Wine drinking while cooking...sometimes.
I do stress while cooking only if I am entertaining. Wine....definately!!!!
cchhbb
05-11-2001, 06:40 AM
I'm a new cook. I tend to get stressed out when I cook. Largely because I'm trying to rush to get things done. I guess I need to plan better to enjoy cooking more.
emilycat
05-11-2001, 06:41 AM
Cooking is my one of my passions.
I have to convince my boyfriend that I truly do not go to any more trouble to cook when he comes for dinner during the week than when I cook only for myself. Other than my morning run, it's perhaps the most relaxing and fulfilling part of my day -- I spend never less than an hour making dinner, sometimes two, and in rare cases, three. I never get stressed out unless I'm cooking for a sizeable group of people -- then the last-minute details really start to get to me and I freak out, ordering everyone out of the kitchen http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
I would say it's a rare night that I don't have a glass of wine or two (or a bottle, if my boyfriend's helping) with dinner.
All that said, I have no kids, no roommates, and no long hours at work. But I hope that cooking always remains a source of stress-relief, enthusiasm and relaxation. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Julie A
05-11-2001, 06:48 AM
I do find cooking relaxing, but there are certain things I have to do to make it that way. I plan my menu on Sunday, and do my grocery shopping ahead of time, so when I get home from work I know what it's going to be, and I have the ingredients.
There are no kids, so that's not an issue for me.
The end result is more satisfying that the process, though. I really like sitting down to a well prepared meal that comes out good. And I love serving company something good and healthy too!
I think I need to make it a point to slow down and enjoy it more...this thread is making me realize that.
Julie
MelissaAS
05-11-2001, 07:00 AM
It can go either way for me...no kids right now and trying to watch calories so I don't do the wine thing on a regular basis. I do love the process of cooking, but if I'm under the gun (deadline-wise, or in a hurry to get out the door to an evening meeting, etc.) it can take the fun out of the process. Basically, though, I love good, healthy food so it's worth the stress. Not to get off topic, but it's the planning (listing, going to the store) that I find to be more of a drag than cooking. Once I have a plan for a few days (or a week, if I'm ambitious) then executing is usually fun. That's as long as I don't set expectations too high about what I can accomplish starting at 7pm for an 8ish dinner!
funnybone
05-11-2001, 07:06 AM
I enjoy cooking, but with two active boys (soccer and other sports throughout the year), and a DH who really does not have a set time as to when he will be home, I find it difficult at times.
I don't work, so I should have lots of time to plan and prepare ahead of time, but that is not always easily done. One son hates all food, the other will eat almost anything, but they are not hungry at the same time we are. They want to eat as soon as they get home from school. I would like to wait and eat as a family.
What I hate most about cooking is the cleanup. I just plain hate it!! DH helps, and I remind the kids to help, but I still hate it.
I also hate the fact that everyone in my house (except for me) likes to "swallow their food whole" as they are practically are finished eating before I even take a bite (even though I stress the rule that nobody eats until we all sit down).
Really, the only sane days around here seem to be the weekends, and even then they are not as sane as I'd like them to be. I guess this is just the nature of having a family.
I do love cooking for guests. This is when I plan ahead, and enjoy the preparation with a glass of wine. The kids know to stay out of my way. Also, we tend to linger over our meal and talk and talk - the way I would like dinners to be. Maybe in another lifetime!!
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lorilei
05-11-2001, 07:07 AM
I must agree with emily. Cooking is a passion, and for me it is also a method by which I can de-stress from a long day or make a weekend more memorable.
I try to take my time with dinner, and it's usually a 1-2 hour process, depending on what I'm inspired to cook. I spend a great deal of time enjoying the smells of different foods, and often sniff and taste my way through the cooking experience. I also spend a good percentage of time thinking about presentation -- good food deserves to LOOK as good as it tastes http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif The process really makes me feel as if I'm creating an artistic masterpiece!
Nary a day goes by without a glass of wine, a martini, or some other libation. "Marinating the chef" is part of what makes cooking such a relaxing and enjoyable experience. My husband and I often cook together, and enjoying a glass of wine and some spectacular conversation while chopping and stirring makes the whole experience complete!
There are no children in the picture, and I am remiss to say whether or not that would have an effect on my experience. I have the hope that my joy would remain unchanged... and that cooking will always be an escape from the mundane.
SandyM
05-11-2001, 07:13 AM
hmmmm.......marinating the chef....... maybe that's what I'm missing........ http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/cool.gif
lindrusso
05-11-2001, 07:21 AM
I'm really enjoying reading your responses.
Funnybone - You hit on a big stressor for me - the clean up. I TRY to clean up as I go along so that I don't have to stare at my mess while I try to eat - that REALLY can make a meal less enjoyable.
Chefbec - you bring up another interesting question. How many of you with children enjoy having them in the kitchen with you?. I don't. I wish I did (in theory, I'd love to share cooking with them), but I like to concentrate and lose myself in the process - impossible to do with kids present.
lorilei - it was your responses to previous threads that always intrigued me! Your approach to cooking is sort of what I long for. However, I cannot help but think that the lovely picture you paint would be much more difficult with kids. Spectacular conversations turn into interruptions - kids cannot imagine that you actually like to talk to each other once in a while http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif. And a 1-2 hour process just isn't practical for me most days.
So, maybe a major source of stress for me is that I picture the scene that Lorilei creates, but my reality pretty much means that it just ain't gonna happen! But I will definitely have to look into this "marinating the chef" idea! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
KValley
05-11-2001, 07:28 AM
I cook for DH and myself- no little ones yet- and occasionally for friends and family. My professional life has changed dramatically in the past year and working from home has allowed me to explore and experiment with cooking the way I never had the time or energy to do before.
For me, cooking is a creative outlet. I have never been the "artistic" type and to discover a facility in the kitchen has been a source of surprise and delight. Every time I make a meal, it is as if I have spent a couple of hours in front of a canvas or at a potter's wheel.
I do get stressed cooking for people other than my family- I am hard on myself and an incurable perfectionist.
I am passionate about wine, but I generally limit myself to a glass a couple of times during the week- more disrupts my sleep and I tend to overeat if I accompany dinner with too much wine. We used to drink a bottle with Saturday and a bottle with Sunday dinners, but we've cut back considerably since the holidays- don't need the calories- and I will quit completely this summer as we try to get pregnant.
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Jewel
05-11-2001, 07:42 AM
Cooking is my passion also...I should say lowfat cooking! I used to get so stressed when I had to cook a meal in the old days, when I was trying to lose weight and there weren't a whole lot of lowcal or lowfat ideas out there, and I had to try to find ways to make your typical 'diet food' look appetizing. When I couldn't, and had to feed an SO that didn't like lowfat foods in any way, I stressed over how much of what I was serving that I could actually eat!
Now that things have changed in all respects, I love cooking. I also don't employ my food processer like most, I enjoy the Chef Knife activity! It's my creative outlet and my DH loves my creativity! We're childless by choice, and my furry 'kids' are not really allowed in the kitchen (Siberian Husky and a mutt) so there's no real stress there. When I know I've got the time to make a dinner, I usually put in an Eagles or John Denver CD and dance in the kitchen (with my Chef Knife and a bell pepper for a partner) while I'm creating! I've been known to pour a glass of wine while I'm cooking too, but it's not a regular thing. Mostly it's just therapy for me. Stress flies right out the window. When everything is in the oven or crockpot or sizzlin' in the skillet, I usually take my wine and go dance with one of the dogs in the living room! (Lyin' Eyes is perfect for this, followed quickly by 'Country Roads'! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif Siberian Husky is a much better partner than the mutt...maybe 'cause she's taller and has better rhythm! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/tongue.gif
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Vanessa
05-11-2001, 07:47 AM
Well I do like to cook. For the 2 of us I might cook some simple things but then I try to incorporate new dishes and try recipes from different magazines....its kind of fun reviewing them although a dissapointment when after a lot of work they are (sometimes) blah!
We both enjoy entertaining and in the summer its casual, relax entertaining. I enjoy reserching for a particular recipe dessert etc. I agree the part about having guests and the stress of getting everything done at the same time and warm or hot to the table, and keeping the kitchen kind of neat (not a war zone) This summer I will go the idea of setting food in the kitchen in warming trays and then everyone can come and go serving themselves and can either sit inside or in the deck mingling.
I find cooking a great way to relax of creating something and to enjoy it of course when shared with friends is more fun!
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sneezles
05-11-2001, 08:14 AM
I do enjoy cooking and find it relaxing (now that the kids are grown). When they were younger and active in non-school sports programs it was difficult to cook elaborate meals so I didn't simply because I didn't want the stress. When they were very young I would choose to either cook a meal that all would enjoy or cook early for them and DH and I would eat later. This was great becuase it seemed like a date in the middle of the week!
I do marinate the chef! (great phrase)
When I cook for guests, I don't stress but accept the offer of help if getting things to the table together is an issue. I use to "do it all" but now I'd rather enjoy the company than impress the guests.
And I too hate the cleanup...try to do most as I go along but then DH or one of the DS's usually helps after the meal.
lorilei
05-11-2001, 08:17 AM
lindarusso - http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gifI'd love to send over a piece of my peace and quiet for you to enjoy!
I'm wondering though... could you involve your children in the process? I know you said that you'd prefer to "lose yourself in the process" -- but involving them might be another good option. Give them little jobs in the kitchen to keep them occupied? I know that this sort of thing is sometimes more work than its worth, but once you got a rhythm going, it might be the key to a more relaxed experience. I'm thinking that it might not only help YOU to enjoy cooking more (and maybe give you a chance to talk to your hubbie), but your kids might end up with a passion for cooking as well!
Another notion I have, if you don't mind cooking alone... could your spouse agree to watch the children while you cook (even once or twice a week)? It would give you some peaceful time alone -- time to bond with your kitchen, and create something WONderful... for all of you to enjoy!
KValley
05-11-2001, 08:28 AM
Jewel Had to come back to echo your affinity for taking dance breaks during meal prep- I highly recommend it as a great tension reliever while things bubble away on the stove. My DH would love you for the Eagles, but I prefer Gypsy Kings, Van Morrison, and our furry baby loves samba! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
makedah
05-11-2001, 08:49 AM
I find cooking to be a good stress reliever -- I don't think that's the same thing as "relaxing," though. But I HATE clean-up. And I don't have a dishwasher either.
I don't have children and I don't drink while I cook. (or while I eat, for that matter!)
gertdog
05-11-2001, 08:50 AM
I love to cook, and I love to plan. I get a lot of pleasure from seeking out warm, comforting recipes to make for my SO and friends in the winter, and light, no-oven recipes for the summer. We plan a weekly menu. I enjoy trying new flavors and recipes too. But there are certainly days when I've got something planned, then just don't feel like cooking when I get home! That's when a box of spaghetti and jar of sauce, or flour tortillas and cheese, or the pizza place phone # come in handy!
I hate to clean up. My SO and I have agreed that when I cook, he cleans up as long as the mess is reasonable. If I've done "tornado in the kitchen" kind of cooking, I help. I've learned, over the past few years, how to clean as I go and minimize the mess, which makes us both happier. So, knowing that I won't be spending an hour or two cooking followed by another hour or so cleaning really helps me enjoy myself.
I don't usually marinate myself while in the kitchen, although I love the phrase! We enjoy wine on the weekends, but it puts me to sleep and so I don't indulge much during the week.
While I don't have children of my own yet, I spend a lot of time with my friends' two sons (ages 6 and 7) in the kitchen. Occasionally their parents go out of town for a long weekend, and we have a blast planning menus, shopping at the farmer's market for ingredients, and cooking together. I bought them a cookbook by Mollie Katzen called Pretend Soup that has picture instructions to complement written ones. They love it. I really enjoy cooking with them *when we have plenty of time* but when things are rushed, I tend to get into "it's easier to do it myself" mode and shoo them out into the family room. When I do have kids of my own, I'd like to find a way to include them in the kitchen on a regular basis, if not every night.
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BlueMoose
05-11-2001, 08:50 AM
For some reason this thread is making me teary-eyed. I used to love to cook. I enjoyed taking my time, experimenting, & didn't even mind cleaning up. It was relaxing & a creative outlet. I would scoff at the "easy", "5 ingredients", & "dinner in 10 minutes or less" cookbooks. This was before I had children. Now it is totally a source of stress. Ex: last night I tried to throw together some rice & beans and an easy cornbread. My 7 month old started wailing half way through (he won't nap so I can do prep earlier in the day) & the kitchen was torn apart by the time I was done. Then my DH and 3 year old came in from playing outside. DH scarfed down dinner without saying a word about it. To him it's just a boring meal, while to me it's a major culinary achievement. My DD, on the other hand barely ate a bite as usual. Then I was left with all the cleanup. The only one who really seems to appreciate my cooking is the dog! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif Hopefully, things will get better as the kids get older, because I really miss cooking and being able to enjoy it. Sorry about this post, but I needed to vent! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif By the was, in case anyone is wondering why I have time to spend on this BB, while I could be cooking for my family...I sit at the computer while I'm nursing http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
browneye
05-11-2001, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by lorilei:
Nary a day goes by without a glass of wine, a martini, or some other libation. "Marinating the chef" is part of what makes cooking such a relaxing and enjoyable experience. My husband and I often cook together, and enjoying a glass of wine and some spectacular conversation while chopping and stirring makes the whole experience complete!
lorilei, we must be living parallel lives. My husband and I cook together, almost every evening, with the glass of wine and the BEST conversations!! Sometimes I intentionally lean toward recipes that aren't too quick to make and require some simmer time, so that we have time to chat!
And yes, we have wine almost every night while cooking. Cooking is my FAVORITE time of the day. Even when I am cooking without DH.
I sympathize with you who have young children. Mine are now 15 and 17, so they aren't around too often in the kitchen. That time before dinner we often called "arsenic hour", it seems like the kids were at their worst during that particular time of the day. Having said that, my 15 yo likes to cook, and enjoys making us dinner sometimes. He used to "help" me a lot when he was little. It was a little more stressful, having him in the kitchen helping, however, I gave him simple chores to do, for example breaking up the blue cheese with a fork,etc. I tried to keep it jovial and not be too anal. When they were young, I usually went for the quick and easy dinners, however. Also, no wine for mom when the kids were little and in the kitchen...I am paranoid.
Lindrusso, I don't know if you work outside the home during the day, or if you are a SAHM, but I used to get an earlier start on dinner when they were young, I used my crockpot alot and also things that baked in the oven unattended for a couple hours, etc. I wasn't nearly as creative, but the atmosphere was happy. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Sometimes we put too much pressure on ourselves to be perfect or to live up to others' expectations.
JennieL
05-11-2001, 09:04 AM
For BlueMoose - Hang in there. It will get easier as your kids get older. My 8 year old loves to help in the kitchen and actually IS a big help.
Cooking is a passio for me and it definately de-stresses me. On the weekends I usually will have a glass or wine when cooking.
lindrusso
05-11-2001, 09:12 AM
Bluemoose - I feel for you! I think that at certain ages, it's just easier to let it go for a while. It's not worth the stress on you!!! Especially if the 7-month-old is not napping - ack! Rely on those easy recipes you used to scoff at and eventually, you'll find time again. That is one of the hardest things about being a parent (at least for me) - letting go of some of the things that give you pleasure and letting go of your picture of "how it should be"!
lorilei - I like your idea in theory, but I'd really need to work at it! I've tried asking the kids to help, but it ends up causing more stress because of the added time and mess involved. I should try it though - I'd just have to build more time into the process. As for hubby - he's very good about playing with the kids when I'm trying to get things done, but I try to have dinner ready by the time he comes home (5:30) so that we can eat at a reasonable time. If I waited until came home to start the meal, we wouldn't eat until much later, thus throwing off our schedule. We do try to plan some meals to eat after the kids go to bed (making everything more relaxing), but I find it hard to eat that late these days - it keeps me awake! And boy, I would love to give my kids a love of cooking and I know that they would LOVE it (at this age, anyway), I just need to reach inside myself and find the patience! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
And I'm really not as stressed as I sound - like everything else, there are good days and bad days.
brendat4
05-11-2001, 09:23 AM
I usually find cooking very relaxing--it is a nice outlet for me. I especially love baking to relax me. One week when I had had a particularly stressful week, I made something like 4 breads and a couple of desserts. I brought them to my brother-in-laws as we were getting together with friends and they joked that I must have been REALLY stressed to have made so much! Ha!
I love experimenting with new recipes but still find making the "old standbys" to be relaxing because I barely have to follow a recipe when I do.
Now cooking for guests is a different thing. I think I stress more about the menu rather than actually cooking the stuff, but my husband would tend to disagree (he says I stress while making it too). But the reward in the end is all the praise I get for making my stuff from scratch. Very few of my friends share my love of cooking and are more into the "just get something on the table" mentality. They are always impressed that I make things from scratch. Wow!
BTW, I do have a little one now--she is about 4 1/2 months old and planning is more important now more than ever. Often times I will prepare as much as I can ahead of time while she is napping to help with cooking. But even with a little one I find time to enjoy my cooking. Hopefully over the years she will learn to love my passion for cooking and I plan to have her help me whenever she can or wants to.
AvrilH
05-11-2001, 09:29 AM
Ahhhhhh. I find the answer to "Do you have kids" often explains a lot of things...
Cooking is relaxing to me when the house is already neat enough for company, and the kids are being taken care of by their father. That means NEVER! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif I recall nursing a baby in a sling while single-handedly stuffing chicken breasts for my mother in law's birthday (she and dh were happily sipping wine out on the porch ;( )
For week day meals, I actually find that involving the kids to make it easier, rather than trying to keep them from being underfoot. For example, we eat carrot sticks a lot bc my 5 year old likes to peel them. My 2 year old likes to set the table.
I must say that I look forward to the day when the kids are all older, and doing things on their own. Then my dinner parties will be the 5 course babies I would really like them to be!
And maybe when I am done nursing and/or being pregnant (after about 10 years straight - sometime in 2004) I'll try a glass of wine and see how that works.
BlueMoose
05-11-2001, 09:31 AM
OK...I'm laughing now! How could I forget the best part about last night? I was doing the dishes (while the baby screamed again) and picked him up to hold him while I rinsed them, and started to feel this warm ooze on my arm. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/eek.gif I had squished poop all up his back! Needless to say the dishes had to wait!
Wendy w
05-11-2001, 09:39 AM
This is a great thread, I'm really enjoying it!! I am a member of the cooking is my passion club! I do consider cooking relaxing-especially at the end of the day. I don't have kids although I have a bird that loves to "help" and my roomie has a dog that likes to get under foot. Yes, I have wine http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif.
Over the past week, I have not been cooking very much as I have a lot of chores to catch up on because the rest of the weekends in May are going to be really busy. As a matter of fact, I often use cooking as a way of avoiding other things that I have to do http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/redface.gif. Or I could say that cooking is something that I make time for.
Last night for example, I decided to make Emeril's blends (Essence, Southwest seasoning, and Rustic rub)instead of vacuuming and cleaning the bird's playground.
However, I am going to 2 parties on Saturday, one a housewarming, the other, a going away party for a former boss and I plan on giving these as gifts. So I consider this a "fun chore" as justification http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif.
I don't have a problem with entertaining as long as I am organized-having done as much as possible ahead of time.
SusanMac
05-11-2001, 09:39 AM
What a fun thread!
I also think cooking is a creative outlet and stress reducer -- relaxing isn't the right word for me. Very recently, DH started cooking with me more often and I love it! The time in the kitchen is more enjoyable, and I just love sharing cooking with him. It's also fun to play a "teacher" role for a change (he's typically teaching me about remodeling)
Wine & music are part of the whole experience. I have to try hard not to drink wine each night while I cook...just don't need the calories or the habit! I do have a problem with "tasting" while I cook. Sometimes I'm not all that hungry by the time the meal is done. yikes!
philamark
05-11-2001, 09:48 AM
I am mostly into baking and I find it very relaxing. Yes, there are times that something is very challenging or not going right that I can start stressing out, but overall I do find baking in the kitchen lets me escape from the pressures and stresses of the outside world. I love putting good music on while preparing my dessert and I just find the whole process very therapeutic!
ashley
05-11-2001, 10:04 AM
I live alone - no DH, no kids, no roommate. Cooking is very relaxing for me- whether its making dinner for myself or a few friends, or baking. That said, I don't cook all the time either. I get home pretty late several nights a week and starting dinner at 9 or 9:30 is not appealing. I like to plan ahead and make something early in the week so that I can eat leftovers when things are hectic, but I must admit there are times when a bowl of cereal has to suffice as dinner!
I definitely like to "marinate the chef" and pop in a great CD (Gypsy Kings is the best cooking music!) while cooking - makes it even more relaxing! I love having dinner parties - wish I had time to have them more often. I love the planning as well as the cooking. I almost always try new recipes so I do sometimes stress a little. My friends brag about my cooking abilities which is a little intimidating because you start to feel like every meal better turn out perfect so you can live up to your reputation!
I always try to clean as I go to avoid an overwhelming mess at the end (particularly important when cooking for yourself and there's no one to help!) I enjoy cooking for my parents - my mom kids me that she used to know how to cook, but now she's forgotten how. She likes to be my "sous chef", but she sometimes complains that she's only a "glorified dishwasher" because I don't trust her to do anything complicated! It is nice to be in the kitchen with her - we enjoy a glass of wine and some good conversation, and then we can get my dad to clean up the kitchen afterwards!
csmcnamara
05-11-2001, 10:15 AM
I just enjoy cooking! The stress comes in when I'm having a dinner party and something needs additional cooking and throws my timing off. I like trying new things(I tell my DH that he is my guinea pig!) or making a great meal for family and friends and getting satisfaction from their enjoyment!
patsyk
05-11-2001, 10:15 AM
First things first, we don't have kids yet, but when we do, it will probably change my feelings on cooking for pleasure!
These days, I have been really enjoying cooking for the 2 of us. I have been doing a lot of experimenting and part of what I find relaxing is getting everything prepped for cooking (ie: chopping and measuring out what I need into "those little bowls" that not everyone is fond of around here - BTW http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif ). I don't usually "marinate the chef" unless I am cooking for guests... helps me relax a bit more before the festivities begin later! I also like to listen to some fun music while I prepare dinner, it puts me in a great mood and I dance around while I get things together... makes things fun! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
lorilei
05-11-2001, 10:18 AM
Did I overlook the music?
I think I must have have -- and what a mistake. Music helps the mood a great deal. Sometimes when I'm making ethnic foods, I'll try to throw in something appropriate to the cuisine. My husband has all sorts of ethnic percussion CD's -- and most of them are amazingly conducive to cooking!
As for dancing, I tend not to -- except when I'm baking. Seems to me a bit of a foxtrot is good for the soul when plopping cookies down on the cookie sheet! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif
Jewel
05-11-2001, 10:32 AM
BlueMoose, I feel for you...I have no children, but I was a very hands-on Godmother to my former best friend's three kids in CA. Frankly, she went through a 'party' stage and would literally drop those kids off at my house 'just for awhile' and pick them up three days later. At that time their ages were about 5, 4, and 2. See now why I don't want kids? Scarred for life!!
Anyway, one thing that worked for me is my crockpot. I feel like the SlowCooker Queen where Phoebe is the Bean Queen! It was easier to do my prep work after the kids were in bed or during their playtime or naptime, and it left my afternoons and early evenings free to relax and play with them. There is also very little cleanup using a Crockpot as opposed to the oven and stove! I'm also a firm believer in 'clean as you go'. By the time we sit down to dinner, the only dishes that have to be done are the ones we're eating off of and the serving dishes we're dipping into. I get out of that final cleanup most of the time, DH believes that if I cook he should do dishes! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Go to www.allrecipes.com (http://www.allrecipes.com) and for choices click on 'method of cooking', then slowcooker. There's GOBS of recipes for your crockpot. BTW, they also separate that AllRecipes site into www.porkrecipe.com, (http://www.porkrecipe.com,) beefrecipe.com, etc. There's even pasta and cookie! All are reviewed so you can learn more about how to fix them up. Easy to convert to lowfat most of the time too! Good luck!
LaraW
05-11-2001, 12:13 PM
I am one who usually finds cooking to be relaxing. It is a good time for DH and I to unwind after work, talk about our day, etc. I find that for us, planning is the key. We make our menu for the week on Sunday, go grocery shopping, and then we know what we are having for dinner when we get home from work. I think deciding what to have is the hardest part, and often will turn cooking into a stressful event.
I do tend to get stressed if we are making something particularly complicated or if we have guests. DH has an aunt who entertains a lot and absolutely refuses to make anything that will keep her stuck in the kitchen while the party is going on. I need to take a lesson from her when we have guests over.
(blushing wildly) Thanks for the compliment... and thanks also for admitting you clean in the morning. Like my husband tells me, it's not going anywhere. ...and there are plenty of times I simply hate to ruin the momentum of an evening by stopping to clean. If that makes me a terrible housekeeper, so be it... At least I'm having fun.
...now if you'll excuse me, I have a toilet to clean... http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Originally posted by emilycat:
Gail, I just have to tell you that you are so very cool. What a lucky kid you have http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
And by the way, what fun is it if you're not all Wahoo!, arms flailing, rosemary and thyme flying through the air, feeling all special 'cause you're a creative chef? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (Or maybe that's just me.)
(And yes, I usually save the dishes until the next morning http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif After all that exertion, who has time to clean up?)
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makedah
05-11-2001, 01:10 PM
This is one scary thread. Y'all make raising children sound hellish. I'm not that interested in becoming a parent, so it's not disillusioning me (any more than I already am! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif) but gosh, squeezing baby poop up the kid's back while cooking? And I thought this pile of 71 papers I have to grade was yucky...
SusieO
05-11-2001, 03:02 PM
I have an unusual schedule that makes stress-free cooking pretty easy. I work a daytime office job and DH works 3pm-11pm as a nurse. So after work, I get in a nap and a workout and start cooking around 10pm to have dinner ready when DH gets home. This gives me plenty of time to enjoy the process. Sometimes I'll have a glass of wine, but more often I make a pot of tea. Obviously, we have no kids. When we do, we'll have to come up with a new schedule.
And by the way, Gail, when I have children, I want to live like you! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
BlueMoose, it made me sad that you thought people would judge you for spending time on the BB. You deserve a break. Get your BB fix in while you can!
Wendy w
05-11-2001, 03:10 PM
Good for you, Gail!! I wish I could be like you in that respect. Your son will remember you for being fun! The only thing I hate about cooking is the cleanup and I have been raised to clean up that very night-I also have a room mate who owns the place I live in. Perhaps when I live alone, I can learn to leave everything for the morning.
ama47369
05-11-2001, 06:43 PM
I don't have kids, yet so I can't say that that is a form of stress for me when cooking. I used to get stressed and I am learning that, oh, little things like reading the entire recipe and pre-prepping veggies and things before hand really do lower your stress level when cooking.
Many a time I would not read the entire recipe and discover that something I was making needed to be "chilled" for 2 hours before proceeding-when I had a luncheon to go to in 1 hour! Now that can stress you out!
Now I just try to enjoy the process and prepare what I can ahead. I will have to start marinating the chef more often!
The best part is DH who does the dishes! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
brendat4
05-11-2001, 08:46 PM
Hear! Hear to both Gail and Emilycat! To Gail for sounding so cool and me hoping that my daughter will someday be as interested in cooking and sharing the kitchen as your son sounds and to Emilycat for also admitting she doesn't do the dishes until the morning.
I routinely leave dishes in the sink until morning. I remember one time recently mentioning such to both my sister and mother and they looked at me dumbfounded as if such a thought was unheard of! Whatever . . . I'd rather enjoy my evening and tackle the dishes in the morning (nevermind that doing the dishes is my least favorite chore to do so a little procrastination doesn't hurt!)
Originally posted by emilycat:
Gail, I just have to tell you that you are so very cool. What a lucky kid you have http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
And by the way, what fun is it if you're not all Wahoo!, arms flailing, rosemary and thyme flying through the air, feeling all special 'cause you're a creative chef? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (Or maybe that's just me.)
(And yes, I usually save the dishes until the next morning http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif After all that exertion, who has time to clean up?)
[This message has been edited by emilycat (edited 05-11-2001).]
As usual, I think I live on a different planet from the rest of you. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Unless I've got a houseful of guests on my doorstep or my hormones are in revolt, it's rare that I stress over dinner. (and those times, yes, the chef will definitely require some marinade...) Indeed, most of the time I'm so hang-loose about things, I'm probably not even pulling out ingredients until most of you are packed up for the evening. But, that's how I live my life.
Yes, I've got a kid, by the way-- a ridiculous eleven-year-old who builds a mean enchilada and is basically a joy to feed. His first question after school, in fact, is routinely "What yum-yum are we having tonight?" And, more often than not, I haven't decided yet.
My family is used to eating late. Sometimes they come into the kitchen to chat or help out, otherwise it's just me and my ridiculous thoughts. Occasionally, I'll bring in music, dance around while I'm slicing things up-- or sing over a pot of something-or-other. My kid hears the singing and joins in. We'll make up ridiculous lyrics as he's filling enchiladas, and then laugh until tears roll down my cheeks. Sure, the floor looks like it's been bombed by a squadron of birds, and there are olive pieces everywhere (largely MY mess, not the kid's) But the way I look at it is that childhood is short; fun moments are fleeting and messes can always be cleaned.
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chefbec
05-11-2001, 11:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lindrusso:
Chefbec - you bring up another interesting question. How many of you with children enjoy having them in the kitchen with you?. I don't. I wish I did (in theory, I'd love to share cooking with them), but I like to concentrate and lose myself in the process - impossible to do with kids present.
I agree. Totally. I love my kids, and since I have 2 boys, I want them to learn how to cook. BUT NOT WHILE I'M RELAXING, SIPPING SOME WINE AND LISTENING TO SOME GOOD MUSIC! I think we deserve this time alone. We do so much for everyone else. Happy Mother's Day.
emilycat
05-11-2001, 11:24 PM
Gail, I just have to tell you that you are so very cool. What a lucky kid you have http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
And by the way, what fun is it if you're not all Wahoo!, arms flailing, rosemary and thyme flying through the air, feeling all special 'cause you're a creative chef? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif (Or maybe that's just me.)
(And yes, I usually save the dishes until the next morning http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif After all that exertion, who has time to clean up?)
[This message has been edited by emilycat (edited 05-11-2001).]
Marcie
05-12-2001, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by BlueMoose:
OK...I'm laughing now! How could I forget the best part about last night? I was doing the dishes (while the baby screamed again) and picked him up to hold him while I rinsed them, and started to feel this warm ooze on my arm. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/eek.gif I had squished poop all up his back! Needless to say the dishes had to wait!
All right. I've kept this story to myself until now, but now I'm compelled to share it.
A few months ago, I made CL's curried butternut squash soup from fall of last year. It's a lovely recipe, all orange and creamy, and so good on a chilly day. At the time my son was about 7 months old, too, and between chopping squash, nursing the baby, stirring the soup, rocking the baby, simmering the soup, holding the baby, pureeing the soup, nursing the baby (again) and eating the soup, the kitchen and myself had gotten pretty messy. I noticed that I'd sloshed some soup onto my sleeve somewhere along the way, and absentmindedly licked it off.
Oh. That wasn't soup.
makedah
05-12-2001, 12:46 AM
oh. my. god.
SusanL
05-12-2001, 04:00 AM
http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/eek.gifOMG_too funny, Marcie, thank you for sharing! While cooking, I had stepped barefooted on my cat's hairball, I thought that was bad!!(Can you believe the things we share with our friends??)
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bluestocking
05-12-2001, 08:09 PM
I use cooking and baking as a creative outlet, more than as a stress reliever (or cause!) I go in spurts- if I've been super-busy at work (I'm a teacher) and home, and feel like I'm doing so many "required" tasks-I'll take the time to go into the kitchen and try a new recipe or try to perfect an old one. I love the creative aspect of working with food. My husband and I have no children, so I do have the kitchen to myself.
KathrynY
05-14-2001, 07:43 AM
BlueMoose, Marcie, makedah and SusanL, you guys are cracking me up! I was having a rotten Monday morning at work until I scanned this thread http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif.
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crc77
05-14-2001, 06:08 PM
uh-oh! Yes to wine and no to kids!! Although I do teach and cook with those kids.
kwormann
05-14-2001, 06:52 PM
I also prefer to clean up in the morning...although it is becomming harder to do that while our house is on the market and we never know when it will be shown. Im so glad to know others do this too.....I dont know anyone else who does!
Kim
LGBurns
05-14-2001, 06:54 PM
Marcie and makedah--LOL! I laughed so hard--first at Marcie's story then at makedah's "take." Hoo boy.
I do find cooking stressful even though I love it--and I don't have kids and I do have a glass of wine while I cook sometimes (or a beer). I think there are several reasons why I get stressed out: I'm too hard on myself; I don't give myself enough time; my kitchen has counter space designed for a mouse not a human; I hate cleaning up the mess but I hate waking up to it. When I give myself plenty of time, take deep breaths, listen to music, prep well, and drink a glass of wine, I can relax while I'm cooking. Unfortunately, for some reason those elements don't come together very often. But I'm working on it, I'm working on it (in more areas of my life than just my kitchen). So, why you may ask, do I say I love to cook? I think the more accurate statement would be I love to eat! And I love to share yummy food with others.
Meg O'C
05-14-2001, 07:43 PM
This is a good topic. I am relieved to hear that not all of you find it easy to get a great meal on the table every night.
During the week DH is away and I usually get home from work around 8 or 9 and am exhausted. My favorite week night meals are: veggie or black bean burger on a good roll with lettuce, tomato, sprouts and avocado; some sort of pasta dish, or a baked potato. Sometimes I'll pick up sushi on the way home and sometimes if I've had a particularly large and late lunch or we've had an afternoon celebration at work (birthday, shower, etc), I just have cheese and crackers or fruit or salad or even, I admit it, microwave popcorn!
On the weekends I cook nice meals for DH and I or a dish to bring to a family meal. I love it - it feels good to use a little creativity and actually have something to show for my efforts (so much of my work product in my day-to-day job is intangible). Music is a must, wine if it's a weekend night. I love putting smiles on people's faces with a good home cooked meal or tasty dessert. Especially my DH - not to sound too traditional but I love putting a good meal on the table for him and he is so appreciative!
Have no idea what I will do when I am juggling week night cooking for both of us and kids after a long day at work - probably lots of pasta!
Wow this is a good thread! I always pictured everyone on this BB as being perfect cooks with perfect kitchens and full course CL dinners every night! Really!
I LOVE to cook like most people here. The problem is real life- small kitchen, old pans, children, work, money, time well you get the picture!
I have been cooking for a family for 20 years now. The early years were so exciting- even with two girls under the age of two! I set thier play things up in the kitchen- playpen etc. and cooked and played with them! It was exhausting but I loved it most of the time! I well remember nursing and cooking and singing and baking. For those of you at that stage I say- slow down, enjoy this time. It all passes so quickly- and boy are those special years. Gourmet meals can wait- simple home cooked meals are where its at! I can well imagine how some of you feel when you hear abouy the ambitious menus many here prepare. There is plenty of time for that stuff!
I only find cooking stressful when I HAVE to cook. For example right noww I have a miserable cold- in the past I would have played the martyr and made a big dinner all the while grumbling to myself. Now I make grill cheese sandwiches or better yet tell everyone to fend for themselves! Instead of cooking a big meal everyday I plan dinners for 4 nights a week and wing the rest with"easy" meals.
Baking is never stressful- I love it and need my fix at least once a week. I think the way to keep cooking fun is to not be too hard on yourself to live up to standards imposed on us all by the media etc. (including CL!!) cook by inspiration or lack of and above all else not take the whole thing to seriously. We are all so blessed to have such an abundance of food to enjoy. I will now step off my kitchen stool!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
LGBurns
05-15-2001, 07:43 AM
Y'know all this talk about kids in the kitchen reminds me of a story. My sister always would bring her younger daughter into the kitchen with her when she cooked. Her daughter (who was 2 at the time) liked to be lifted on the counter and sit there talking to mom and watching her cook. Well, one day when my sister's back was turned I guess my niece decided she wanted to get something out of the cupboard under her. She reached down to grab the handle and fell off the counter! Luckily she was fine but my sister decided after that that she should probably sit on a chair to watch her instead of the counter. Since I know she was fine, I actually think the story is pretty funny.
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