View Full Version : Scallop pronunciation-Emily!
daner94
06-06-2001, 04:52 AM
We had a discussion yesterday about ideas for scallop recipes and also pronunciation.
Emily said she pronounced it "skollop", but others said they say it with the "ah" sound.
Last nite on Martha Stewart, she was making paella with Bobby Flay (another topic in itself http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif ) and she pronounced it "skollop" so I was thinking about you, Emily!
Dana
emilycat
06-06-2001, 06:18 AM
Now I'm a little confused -- I was equating the 'o' sound with the "ah" sound, as opposed to the 'a' as in cat sound. Which did you mean?
SandyM
06-06-2001, 06:42 AM
I'm thinking it's a regional thing. It's SKAAAAAA-lops for me. Then again, I'm from NY - albeit western, where there is NO accent (right Andrea????? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
Of course gratin to me was always GRAH-tin. All of the chefs I've heard pronounce it grah-TAAAN.
Soda anyone? Or is it soder? No wait - it's POP!!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
daner94
06-06-2001, 06:44 AM
Oh. When I said "ah", I meant like the sound you make at the doctor's office. Or like "cat". I guess you could read it as either way! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
emilycat
06-06-2001, 06:47 AM
Okay, well then I don't know what the 'o' sound would be; I said it SKAHLOP.
daner94
06-06-2001, 07:17 AM
I say tomayto, you say tomahto......
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emilycat
06-06-2001, 07:19 AM
I say tomayto, you say tomahto......
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pmmahan
06-06-2001, 08:46 AM
I think this is a boston thing, but we say
"skaahllop"
Wendy w
06-06-2001, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by SandyM:
I'm thinking it's a regional thing. It's SKAAAAAA-lops for me. Then again, I'm from NY - albeit western, where there is NO accent (right Andrea????? http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif)
Of course gratin to me was always GRAH-tin. All of the chefs I've heard pronounce it grah-TAAAN.
Soda anyone? Or is it soder? No wait - it's POP!!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
This has always amused me, especially when I visit my sister in MI where everyone says POP instead of soda or soft drink!
I have also noticed that people from the Chicago area call athletic shoes "gym" shoes.
It must have been amusing to see Martha and Bobby Flay together. I wonder who won the "battle of arrogance." http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
I'm a scallop as "cat" pronouncer myself.
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DmOrtega
06-06-2001, 09:20 AM
According to Encarta World English Dictionary, it is pronounced with the "ah" sound. As in the word hot.
http://dictionary.msn.com/find/entry.asp?search=scallop
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Neanne
06-06-2001, 09:23 AM
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emilycat
06-06-2001, 09:36 AM
According to Encarta World English Dictionary, it is pronounced with the "ah" sound. As in the word hot.
Heck, yeah! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Grace
06-06-2001, 09:44 AM
I'm from Chicago (and for the LONGEST time, thought we had NO ACCENT! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif ). But many years ago I was in Souther (I mean, WAY southern) Illinois, and I went into the store and bought a 6 pack of POP. After I'd paid for it, the clerk says, "Ma'am, would y'all like your sodie in a sack?" I nearly wet myself, and said, No, thanks, but I'll take my pop in a bag, please! He just screwed up his face, and then laughed at me. But really, sodie? Sack????? A sack to me is some big burlap thing you run a sack race in or something you put 100 pounds of potatoes in (or there's another meaning too crass to mention on this nice board!). But it's certainly not a BAG you put your groceries in! And yes, athletic shoes ARE gym shoes!! It really is funny how you can tell where someone comes from by not only the accent, but the colloquialisms (sp??!!) they use!
And we say scallops (like cat). Martha's weird - she also says herbs (pronouncing the "h". I say erbs. Oh well, doesn't really matter as long as we understand each other!
HARRYET
06-06-2001, 09:59 AM
Growing up on the east coast, and now living in the SW, I tend to say things several ways: skahllops, or skollops.
How about these, lollipop, or is it "sucker".
Tonic or is it "soda" or "pop"
and this one I just can't get past, is it Aunt or "Ant", I don't know about you guys but to me "Ants" ruin picnics!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Ann
JulieAnn
06-06-2001, 10:06 AM
Martha's weird - she also says herbs (pronouncing the "h". I say erbs. Oh well, doesn't really matter as long as we understand each other![/B][/QUOTE]
Grace, that cracked me up!!!! That's probably what my husband would say also!
Wendy w
06-06-2001, 10:27 AM
Too funny, Grace and Harryet! JulieAnn, I forgot to mention, Martha pronounces marinade, "mah-rin-ahdh". My sister and BF love to "correct" http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/tongue.gif me when I don't pronounce it in the "proper" Martha fashion!
kwormann
06-06-2001, 10:49 AM
I always say pop and here in TX, I always get asked "where are you FROM??"
emilycat
06-06-2001, 12:09 PM
I've never called it anything but "soft drink."
And what about "fixin' to go do something?"
Ooh, Harryet, you reminded me -- I hate the word 'sucker!' That's what everyone down here says, and I've always said 'lollipop."
My grandparents, who grew up down here, call lunch dinner and dinner supper.
And of course, there are the infinite number of ways to refer to the remote control. I call it the channel-changer, my sister calls it the clicker, and my dad, bless is heart, calls it "The Power." http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
daner94
06-06-2001, 12:18 PM
Okay, I have another one- SALSA
I say sohsla- and get teased. I know that most everyone else says sahlsa.
Dana
......I say Potayto, you say Potahto.....
SandyM
06-06-2001, 12:26 PM
I eat suckers. I drink pop. I bake with soda. I wear sneakers, and I use cuepons at the grocery store. I have ANTS and uncles. And I am tilted offcenter when I hear someone say "a-GAIN" and not "aGEN".
This is soooo funny!
DmOrtega
06-06-2001, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by daner94:
Okay, I have another one- SALSA
I say sohsla- and get teased. I know that most everyone else says sahlsa.
....
Sounds like when I used to say basgetti instead of spagetti.
DmOrtega
06-06-2001, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by emilycat:
...and of course, there are the infinite number of ways to refer to the remote control. I call it the channel-changer, my sister calls it the clicker, and my dad, bless is heart, calls it "The Power." http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
In our house is has always been call "The Power". I have no idea how it got started.
Jewel
06-06-2001, 12:36 PM
As for scallops, I pronounce it "eeeeewwww".
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I grew up in central California where anything carbonated is called a 'Coke'. For example my date is getting ready to go to the concession stand at the drive-in movie. He says "You want a coke"? I sit up, straighten my blouse and say "Yeah, I'll take a Sprite". Everything is a Coke, except the Mexican culture in my hometown called it 'soda'. Got to Washington and I was searching all over the supermarket for 'beverages' on the aisle signs, and when I finally asked the kid in the blue apron he looked at me like I was nuts and said "Right there in Aisle 4...POP". Sheesh...now I drink Iced Tea!
I also say ERB not H-ERB, (Herb is a man), Marinade with a two long A's, and I've always sad 'bag' not 'sack'. I wasn't born in a barn you know! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif
In my opinion, a 'sucker' is something you eat for pleasure. A 'lollipop' is something the doctor gives you after he gives you a shot if you don't cry.
And SueK? My DH is from Pittsburgh...and when I went out there the first time with him I was laughing at some of the pronunciations. The best one (and the one we joke about so much) is not 'downtown' but 'dahntahn'. Also, that supermarket isn't Giant Eagle. It's 'Giant Iggle'. Cracks me up! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
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Wendy w
06-06-2001, 12:36 PM
I used to work with an Englishman who used to call rubber bands "elastic bands". It sounded cool with his accent!
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And SueK? My DH is from Pittsburgh...and when I went out there the first time with him I was laughing at some of the pronunciations. The best one (and the one we joke about so much) is not 'downtown' but 'dahntahn'. Also, that supermarket isn't Giant Eagle. It's 'Giant Iggle'. Cracks me up!
Jewel, to this day, I still have to make a conscious effort not to say down like "dahn". Also, people there say "sahside" instead of South Side, etc. I still pronounce it differently. I was never guilty, however, of saying "youns" (sp?), which is another local term there.
For some reason, we also always called sweatshirts "football shirts". I didn't break that habit until I went away to college.
aggie94
06-06-2001, 12:47 PM
Since living in Oregon, I've become very conscious of using the word "y'all." I'm careful not to do it around people that don't know me well, for fear of being labeled a redneck. But I refuse to use the word "pop" -- I, too, still refer to anything carbonated as a Coke. And I laughed when Emily reminded me of the phrase "fixin' to..." -- I never knew it was a regional thing until I moved here. You should have seen the looks people gave me!
DH hates it when I say CUEpon, but I always give him a hard time when he says PEENguin.
Emily & other Southerners---one thing that cracked me up was that a friend of mine (from Atlanta) always says "mash this button" or "mash this key" instead of press the button or key. Do you say that also?
emilycat
06-06-2001, 12:57 PM
Sue, Ugh -- I hate that! Mash is such an icky word -- it's what you do to strawberries when you're making jam! No, I always say "press" http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
katygirl
06-06-2001, 01:05 PM
This is too funny.
We are also from Boston, what do you call those black little things that you sometimes put on ice cream cones? We call them jimmies. At if you are in a public place like a school or a mall you get a drink from the bubbler, not a water fountain.
Anyother funny thing is, we just got back from Colorado and people are amazed at how we use the word "wicked" IE: I am wicked hungry, wicked tired etc.
Soft drinks to us are also all called soda.
To avoid the pitfalls of mispronunciation, may I suggest those of you going to Birmingham communicate by means of holding up signs?
Julia1Pin
06-06-2001, 01:13 PM
Northern California's version of "wicked" is "hella"
Lynn B
06-06-2001, 01:48 PM
Sue K,
Where do you now live? We live 2 hours north of Pgh! And WHAT, you never say "you'nz"?!!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
How about WARSH the car?! Or WARSHINGTON DC?!! That always makes me chuckle!
BTW, we say "skallop" (like gallop) I guess we are hicks!!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Lynn- My mother still says "warsh" and it is like nails on a chalkboard to me! Of course, I pronounced that way until I went away to school and got teased enough!
I live in State College. I know you live in Franklin--I went to college in Clarion, so I'm familiar with your "part of the world"!
kwormann
06-06-2001, 02:06 PM
I have to admit, when I moved to the south I quickly picked up on ya'll, but I REFUSE to say "Im fixin" to do something.;...JUST DO IT! I also had never heard someone say "Tuesday week" instead of next Tusday until the regional move! I had to ask what that meant!
Jewel
06-06-2001, 02:50 PM
My mother is from Arkansas. I've never heard anyone else call maple syrup 'surp' before. It was the source of many giggles as a kid!
She also tells her friends that I live in 'Warshington'. Funny part is my mom left Arkansas at age 3!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
Karen M
06-06-2001, 02:52 PM
I hate it when people pronounce "Italian", eye-talian. Afterall, eye-taly is NOT a country!
KValley
06-06-2001, 02:57 PM
Okay- just had to chime in here- Pacific Northwest, but several years in the MidWest and Colorado... A "crick" is a pain I get in my neck from working too long in front of the computer; "creek" is a small flowing body of water. A "root" is the part of the plant which grows under the soil, unless of course one is referring to "Route 66", then they are homonyms; otherwise the path travelled is Route, pronounced "out"
Oregon is NOT OREGONE. It is OREGUN. Don't even get me started on WARSHington http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/biggrin.gif
I drink pop (well, I don't, but that's what it's called).
Last year when DH and I were in Seattle visiting my dad, before we returned to the PNW, Dad said I had picked up a bit of a Midwest accent and manner of speech. What's with that? Of course, in the Northwest we don't have accents!!
Oh, when in England don't compliment a man on his pants, unless of course you really do mean his Jockeys and not his khakis... http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
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crlykat
06-06-2001, 02:58 PM
My mother is from Indiana and even though she left it many years ago, she still says Warshington, or warsh the clothes, etc. I used to bug her about it when I was a kid (how horrible I was!).
My dad is from Brooklyn and says things like "the sofer" (for sofa) and other delightful NY-Brooklyn-ese things.
AndreaU
06-06-2001, 03:10 PM
SandyM- an accent (or should I say aaaaa-cent) in western New York?? No way! I always wondered why my name is pronounced AND-rea and not AHN-drea. As for the little sea creatures of mention here- I call 'em scallops with an "a" as in apple. (Then again, I also call fizzy beverages "pop" and long sandwiches "subs," not hoagies or grinders or heroes or torpedoes or wedges.)
jazzcat
06-06-2001, 03:17 PM
AndreaU, I call those long sandwiches grinders. When I went to college in Pittsburg, people looked at me as though I was saying something " nasty". There it's HOAGIE
AndreaU
06-06-2001, 03:23 PM
jazzcat-
Funny how you can go from NY to PA to RI (not a huge distance in the grand scheme of things) and a sandwich is called 3 different things!
mandarin2j
06-06-2001, 03:31 PM
My dad is from Indiana, so he "warshes" the car, and asks us if we are "death" when we are merely ignoring him! Our friend from Ohio also "warshes" things.
My mom lived in Jersey when she was in high school, and I've lived in Oregon all my life, so "pop" isn't good enough for me...it has to be "soda pop."
My aunt from Minnesota says that "ants are insects, but aunts are your relatives." I just can't make myself pronounce it that way, though. It sounds to high fallutin' here in Portland!
-Amanda
Laura B
06-06-2001, 03:46 PM
OK, the thing that drives me the most crazy about my husband and his father (from Eastern rural NC) is the way they say sheriff (oops! can't believe I misspelled that the first time http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/rolleyes.gif ). They say "sure-if" instead of "share-if." How does the rest of the world say it?
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Jewel
06-06-2001, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by jazzcat:
AndreaU, I call those long sandwiches grinders. When I went to college in Pittsburg, people looked at me as though I was saying something " nasty". There it's [b]HOAGIE
Jazz, did you ever get your Hoagies at Permani's?? DH and his two brothers took me there, I believe it's in the 'Strip District'? Never in my life have I had a hoagie with coleslaw and french fries IN the sandwich. You people are weird!!
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jazzcat
06-06-2001, 04:22 PM
Jewel, I never went to Permani's. I was only in Pittsburg for a year before I transfered. Boo-hoo. What wonderful memories I have of that one special year. Anyway, I was somewhere between "Squirrel Hill" and "Shady-Side". I agree with you. That sandwich sounds very weird to me as well. I really would like to try a Philly-Cheese Steak from Philadelphia though.
This is a bit off the subject, but then again pertains to differences in regions, it always made me feel so spooked that you had to go to a "State Store" for liquor vs a Package Store here in CT. Then again, the drinking age was 18 in CT and 21 in Pa. I have to say I was "a good girl" and never ventured in the "State Store". Then I transfered up to UConn and you could call in an order and the Liquor store would deliver alcohol right to your room if you wanted. Thus the change of the drinking age.
BethML
06-06-2001, 05:11 PM
Funny you should mention the Package Store thing. I'm originally from Philly and liquor stores were always "State Stores". A few weeks ago, I was in South Carolina for a vacation with friends & we went to the supermarket. As we pulled into the parking lot, I noticed that there was a "Package Store" next door.... and thought it was a competitor of Mailboxes, etc.!
Jessica
06-06-2001, 05:16 PM
This is hysterical. I grew up in Chicago and we always called them "gym shoes." I never knew that was weird. When I started college, my New York roommate gave me a blank look when I said, "I am going to the movies, do you want to come with?" as opposed to "with me."
Also, in Chicago we gave grocery stores a definite article: "I am going to the Jewel."
Now I live in Minnesota and they talk funny here, too. Duck Duck Goose is called Duck Duck Greyduck and mint chip ice cream is Peppermint Bon-Bon.
I also love Milwaukee, with its bubblers and stop-and-go lights.
Of course, I never talk funny... http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Laura B
06-06-2001, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by jazzcat:
It always made me feel so spooked that you had to go to a "State Store" for liquor vs a Package Store here in CT. Then again, the drinking age was 18 in CT and 21 in Pa. I have to say I was "a good girl" and never ventured in the "State Store".
This is funny. Here in NC they are referred to as the ABC store (ABC stands for something like alcoholic beverage control I think). Where I grew up in SC, we called them Red Dots because all of them had these large red dots on the exterior. I think that was a general term and not just something my family used! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/smile.gif
Wendy w
06-06-2001, 05:36 PM
Speaking of liquor stores, they are called "party stores" in MI. Am I right SandyM? In CA, "party stores" are those stores where you buy invitations, decorations, etc.
I also have a friend who likes to "warsh" things and another who likes to talk to "all of youse".
SoCal
06-06-2001, 06:34 PM
For those of you that live (or lived) in North Carolina, do you have your picture made or have you picture taken?? Where I'm from, we always had our picture taken!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif
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Laura B
06-06-2001, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by SoCal:
For those of you that live (or lived) in North Carolina, do you have your picture made or have you picture taken?? Where I'm from, we always had our picture taken!! http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif
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Definitely taken!
SandyM
06-06-2001, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Wendy w:
Speaking of liquor stores, they are called "party stores" in MI. Am I right SandyM?
Yes indeed, in Michigan, a party store is where you buy booze. No liquor stores here.
BlueMoose
06-06-2001, 07:05 PM
My DH is from Chicago and always wears "gym shoes", whereas we have always worn "tennis shoes" in MN. He also walks on the "pier" rather than the "dock".
I'm also told that some of you out there walk on the "floor" even when you are outside instead of the "ground".
I guess we here in Minne-soda are the only ones who speak without an accent, then. http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif
Ralph
06-06-2001, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Grace:
It really is funny how you can tell where someone comes from by not only the accent, but the colloquialisms (sp??!!) they use!
May I refer you all (or y'all http://www.cookinglight.com/bbs/wink.gif) to www.slanguage.com (http://www.slanguage.com)
A very amusing site, especially if you've lived or know people from several different parts of the country.
I just noticed that Martha Stewart is on Oprah today. I'm going to tape it just to get a kick out of seeing all the stuff she'll make today.
Also, speaking of regional slang, I grew up in Pgh where we said "pop". I now live only two hours away, and they say soda. I've lived here for 14 years, so I'm used to saying soda. Last year I drove to Pgh and ordered "soda" at a restaurant there and the waitress looked at me like I had two heads.
In Pgh we also said "gumband" instead of "rubber band" and when you cleaned a room, you were going to "red it up".
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