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    vets, looking for advice about eye issues

    our dog (when he lives with my MIL but he was my husbands and we pay the bills/decide treatment) has an eye ulcer. Dr wants to treat with plasma, 2 eye medications (1 to lubricate, 1 is a pain killer) plus 2 additional pain killers (around $400 for all this, can pay it if its needed). Then they'll check in 3 days and if its better thats good, if its worse we're off to an eye specialist.

    Also, they suggested boarding since my MIL is a teacher so she's gone part of the day. They said he should be watched. (I'm not sure how critical this part is, MIL can over react).

    I'm just looking for feedback. Sometimes we've done agressive treatment before (lots of medicines, etc) and it turns out to be nothing more than a minor isssue but we are treating worse case scenario. They are first doing a test to confirm its an eye ulcer.

    Can an untreated eye ulcer cause the eye to burst? The ulcer started developing last week.

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    Mcgeiger is in the Grand Canyon so not likely able to respond this week. Sorry.


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    I know the experts will chime in. I know nothing of eye ulcers so I had to look it up, It said the dog needs to wear a cone for several days while it heals, maybe thats why the vet wants the dog to stay for a for a few days to monitor to make sure she does not scratch the eye in anyway.

    I am going thru something similar now. My dog had a fatty tumor removed from his eyelid on 1/31. a few days later he was somehow able to scratch his eye while wearing his cone and I woke up to find his eye bleeding. Then they did not leave the stitches in long enough and it split the same day he had his stitched out and it has not healed so he is going in for surgery tomorrow to fix it.

    good luck

    Laurie

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    When I lived in OH, my dog had a corneal ulcer. I didn't know what was going on at the time, he kept pawing at his eye and I couldn't figure out what was wrong. I took him to the vet and they told me he had a corneal ulcer and if not treated he could go blind in his eye. They referred me to a veterinary opthamolic (sp?) specialist. So, I took my dog and they had to "slice" it off. I had to put salve and drops in his eye several times a day. Poor thing had to wear a cone around his head so he wouldn't keep pawing at it. We had to go through this procedure 3 times until it was finally gone, this took about a year. It ended up costing me about $2500, but it was worth it. I don't know anything about it bursting...the main concern was blindness.

    Just wanted to tell you my experience with this. I guess it's not that uncommon, but it was expensive and time consuming. He was my baby though so I didn't care what it cost.

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    Yes, ulcers can ultimately lead to corneal rupture (burst eyeball!). It depends on how severe it is. Without seeing the dog myself and knowing what tests they've done, I can't really give more advice than that, but I always remind people to think about how irritating it is to have an eyelash in your eye, then imagine how terrible it must feel to have an actual HOLE and infection on the surface of your eye. Eye issues can be very painful, and if not treated correctly, can lead to loss of vision.

    Not to scare you! Most superficial ulcers can be managed quite easily with antibiotic ointments, but first you have to know what you're dealing with.

    Feel free to ask more questions when you have more information!
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    thanks everyone. I think I was more confused when I was talking to my MIL because she kept mentioned "aggressive treatment" and "specialist". But once I talked to the vet, to start its just medicine to relieve pain and to create an optimal environment for healing. If it doesn't improve in 3 days, then we'll go to the specialist.

    I just feel like everytime we go to the vet its always that the prognosis is death or loosing a body part. But when I go to the doctor for myself I don't get this type of prognosis. I feel like with animals they give you the worst case scenario and with humans they start treating the mild situation first. Maybe its our vet but I don't have control over that. And also I'm not usually the one at the vet - its DH (we have cats who live with us) or MIL. I think I need to go myself instead of hearing things second hand - can't imagine what I would hear if I let them take my son to the doctor,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanaSD View Post
    thanks everyone. I think I was more confused when I was talking to my MIL because she kept mentioned "aggressive treatment" and "specialist". But once I talked to the vet, to start its just medicine to relieve pain and to create an optimal environment for healing. If it doesn't improve in 3 days, then we'll go to the specialist.
    Great. Sounds like a superficial ulcer. Hopefully a few days of treatment will do the trick.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanaSD
    I just feel like everytime we go to the vet its always that the prognosis is death or loosing a body part. But when I go to the doctor for myself I don't get this type of prognosis. I feel like with animals they give you the worst case scenario and with humans they start treating the mild situation first. Maybe its our vet but I don't have control over that. And also I'm not usually the one at the vet - its DH (we have cats who live with us) or MIL. I think I need to go myself instead of hearing things second hand - can't imagine what I would hear if I let them take my son to the doctor,
    Hmm. This is an interesting point, and I have a few thoughts on it. First of all, we as humans are able to relate symptoms to our doctor earlier than dogs or cats can. We can be quite specific about what hurts. With animals, we have to give it our best based on the vague information we get from the patient. Sometimes that means we have to do a bunch of tests to narrow down the problem. For example, if a cat comes to me with 3 days of vomiting and diarrhea, the worst case scenario is that there's an obstruction of the GI tract, either a foreign object (I.e., a string that's kinking everything up) or a tumor that's blocking the intestines, etc. Or maybe it's food allergy. Or maybe it's a parasite. There are soooooo many causes of those symptoms, and if the cat were a person, I would just say, "Did you eat a piece of string or a rock or a plastic mouse?" and I'd be all set. But instead, I have to to x rays, blood tests, etc to look for the problem.

    I can't speak for human physicians. I can only tell you how I approach my patients. I also tend to be more cautious and look for the worst case scenario, because I am acutely aware of how much trust my clients are putting in me by caring for the wellbeing of their pet. If I miss something bad because I wasn't thorough, I can't sleep at night. If I present all of the possibilities and give my recommendations and the client refuses diagnostics, at least they are well-informed and I sleep slightly better. Only slightly.

    I can also tell you that I've had MDs who are very thorough with me and I've known DVMs who are careless and cavalier. So perhaps it does depend on the luck of the draw!
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    Thanks Rebecca, thats a good point. Also, I think possible diagonsis is being relayed to me a little distorted by MIL and DH at times - instead of "possible diagnosis includes ..." I get "vet thinks its...".

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