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    Question Current coffeemaker recommendations?

    My coffeemaker is falling apart, and you don't want to even know what I will become if I don't get my morning fix. Searches pulled up pretty old threads; any current rec's on coffeemakers? Maybe from Cook's Illustrated testing? My coffeemaker's an el cheapo Black & Decker SmartBrew; it never got the coffee as hot as our old Krups but it did well enough till the Teflon plate began losing all its Teflon--and the lid falls off the carafe, and it has an occasional random leak of coffee onto the counter, and now the coffeemaker lid itself falls off whenever I try to load the grounds & water. The only ones I know I don't want are the Cuisinart Grind 'n Brew (I've heard they're deafeningly loud & not so efficient anyway), and the KitchenAid (we tried a red!! one, but the circuit board in the control panel went out just a few weeks after we bought it). Thanks!
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    I recently bought an el cheapo Mr. Coffee. I've previously had each brand you mentioned, and then some, all with similar problems. This one was around $20.00, has the timer thing (so it's waiting on me when I stagger out of bed), and the coffee is hot, even pouring a cup as soon as it stops making. And I put a healthy amount of refrigerated evaporated skim milk in mine, so the hot factor is really tested. I'm perfectly satisifed since, in my experience, the expensive ones have lasted no longer than the cheap ones.

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    We had a cheapy Hamilton Beach for years and it finally gave in when the European in-laws had it working overtime this Spring. They bought us a Bunn maker and we LOVE IT! The biggest reason we love it is the quick brew time and I think the coffee does taste better.
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    We have had the

    C. Grind and Brew, yes it is loud but we loved the fresh ground coffee. We now have the upgraded one, got it from Discover Cashback pts., it doesn't grind nearly as loud, but just the same quality of coffee. Our cat exploded out of the room the first time she heard the original GnB but got used to it. This one, she didn't mind at all, maybe she is now deaf from the first. We have had the cheapies but they have died quickly. Think we will stick to our C GnB, it is the best we have had so far. Guess I didn't help you at all. Nevermind
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    I dread the day when my Braun Flavor Select bites the dust. We bought a newer version and it doesn't work as well. I think a Grind and Brew is my next choice.
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    Margaret,
    When you do, get the one that you put the beans on top that you see them, I think it is 1/2lb hopper. It is easier to clean and less noisey.
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    Just me drinking coffee so I do the Melita(sp?) cone drip...and I fresh grind my own beans. I use an electric kettle and it takes less than 6 minutes for the whole ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzmatazz49 View Post
    I dread the day when my Braun Flavor Select bites the dust. We bought a newer version and it doesn't work as well. I think a Grind and Brew is my next choice.
    I have a Braun Flavor Select too!! It is about 6 or 7 years old, and it may not do any fancy grinding, and maybe it does not brew coffee at the "perfect brewing speed" (whatever that may be), and no thermal carafe...but those things don't keep the coffee hot enough for my taste anyway. Anyway, it makes the best coffee!!

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    My two favorite coffee makers were a very old Mr Coffee machine which belonged to a coworker. It made really hot and good coffee. People at work still talk about that old coffee maker, we never had another one which made such good coffee. I also really loved my Braun Flavor Select which I replaced a few years ago because I thought I was upgrading. I gave it to my sister and secretly wish I could ask for it back. It made really good coffee. Now I have a Krupps Aroma Control and the coffee is OK, but not as good as the Braun I gave up.
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    We had the Gevalia and it was great for about a year, then quit. We went back to the old Mr. Coffee that we had replaced with the Gevalia and it's doing just fine. I don't know now why we replaced it, maybe because the Gevalia was free. Gevalia coffee is good but on the expensive side.

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    I can't say enough good things about my Toddy Cold Brew coffee maker. My MIL loved it so much I had to order one for her. I can have a cup any time and not worry about making a whole pot. You can use any kind of coffee - fresh ground, packaged...doesn't matter.
    Even better - when you have guests, each person can make their cup as strong or weak as they prefer!
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    We have a Braun Impressions coffeemaker- the one with the glass carafe. We've had it for over two years now and it still works like the day we bought it. Nice, very hot coffee. It't fairly quiet as far as a coffee maker goes and cleans easily.

    The only thing about this coffee maker is that it uses a Brita filter in the machine- makes the coffee taste fantastic, but it does need to be replaced every two months. Of course, if you already use filtered water, you don't need to use the filter.
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    I know this is about coffee makers, but I thought I would throw out the idea of a French Press. We got one recently, and it's especially convenient when you just need a small amount of coffee (or for camping!). The coffee is really good too--and I buy Folgers, so that's saying something! It won't keep coffee hot as long, though, and doesn't make as much coffee, and of course there is no timer to set--you have to boil the water yourself.

    I'm not sure it could absolutely replace a regular-drip coffee maker, but it sure makes a nice addition to the "family!"
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    I appreciate all the recommendations that are coming in; thanks.

    More, anyone? Especially anyone who knows what Cook's Illustrated's latest testing shows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by testkitchen45 View Post
    I appreciate all the recommendations that are coming in; thanks.

    More, anyone? Especially anyone who knows what Cook's Illustrated's latest testing shows?
    I love my Senseo, I make my own pods with organic coffee.

    I read this article and thought you might find it useful-Consumer Search

    Best coffee makers (glass carafe)
    The least expensive automatic-drip coffee makers have glass carafes and use a warming plate to keep coffee hot. We found mixed reviews for cheap coffee makers of this type, mainly because reviews say they don't get the coffee hot enough for brewing (ideally between 195 and 200º F, according to Cook's Illustrated) or brew quickly enough (within 6 minutes). If you aren't picky about coffee temperature and don't mind mild, light-bodied coffee, Cook's Illustrated's review of budget coffee makers is very useful.

    In the Cook's Illustrated tests, the Braun AromaDeluxe KF510 (*est. $35) got the brewing water hotter than most (186º F), though it still took too long to brew. This model scores points for solid build quality and a well-designed carafe with a good handle. The AromaDeluxe KF510 doesn't have a program feature, but experts say this is a feature that many people don't use anyway. It also does not have an auto shutoff feature. Owner reviews are more positive for this coffee maker than for other inexpensive models, saying it's a good basic coffee maker. The step-up version, the Braun AromaDeluxe KF590E (*est. $70) , does have auto shutoff and a gold-tone reusable filter.

    Continue reading full article
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    Quote Originally Posted by potato_moose View Post
    I know this is about coffee makers, but I thought I would throw out the idea of a French Press.
    I love the French Press, but aside from the fact that it's not terribly convenient to use on work mornings, etc., there's another minus. It's recommended by various health groups that you drink no more than one cup of unfiltered coffee a day because the acids that paper filters keep out are bad for the heart. While there are some conflicting reports, and more research is needed, a Google search on "acids in unfiltered coffee" will give you a long list of sources for information.

    Given that I drink a fair amount of coffee most days, I take this one very seriously and limit my use of the press, usually saving it for special occasions or to sample a new coffee.

    Come to think of it, it's about time for an early afternoon cup of Haitian Bleu!

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    We use a Mr. Coffee and are very happy with it for a big pot. It's the one with the taller carafe -- VERY washable, but I'd get a black one, next time!
    When we just want one cup, we use the Senseo, with Folger's pods, as the Target has been out of medium/Kenya pods lately.
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    YAY!!! I get to sing the praises of a completely new coffeemaker that I guarantee you'll love:

    The Keurig.

    We bought ours at Costco for $129. I know, that's a lot, but WOW, what great coffee it makes! (according to my husband and EVERY visitor who has tried it)

    I, however, hate coffee, so when my husband started looking for a coffeemaker, I couldn't have cared less. But, I took my daughter to her first orthodontist appointment recently and saw some cute tiny cups of coffee "mix" in the corner -- they looked like slightly oversize half-and-half cups and had grounds in them -- plus some cute tiny cups of tea "mix," including one of my favorite mint teas. Thank goodness there were instructions next to the machine or I would have peeled off the foil and dumped the grounds into my cup.

    You lift up a smooth-moving handle on the front of the machine just above where the coffee will be dispensed, and you see a small spot where the tiny plastic cup ("K-Cup") fits. There's foil on the top of the K-Cup; you leave that in. Then you lower the handle and hidden needles pierce the top and bottom of the K-Cup. You choose small, medium or large (tea cup, regular mug, large mug), press the corresponding button, and 40 seconds later you're walking away with your drink. The machine cleans itself with a blast of air, and you just throw away the K-Cup. It doesn't even leak. (If you make cocoa, though, you're supposed to run a cycle afterwards with no cup in the machine. You can run the same type of cycle if you just want hot water.)

    I was incredibly skeptical about making my tea. After all, I HATE coffee, and even the slightest coffee taste in my iced tea (it happens with alarming frequency up here in Minnesota) will make me ill. But...

    It was awesome! There was no taste of coffee at all.

    I told my husband about it, so he wanted to take her to the next appointment. He tried a coffee and was completely sold. He started researching it and discovered it was available at Amazon, Costco, and a few other places.

    Here are the specifics. Like the Senseo, you have to buy the coffee in a certain format OR use a special filter that usually costs around $15. Costco has an awesome deal right now where you buy the machine, which is a great model, and you get probably hundred packets of coffees. In addition to the regular sample pack of coffees/teas/hot chocolate that come with the coffeemaker, you also get several 24-count boxes of high-quality coffees. My pack came with
    - Green Mountain Nantucket Blend Medium Caffeinated
    - Tully's French Roast Extra Bold Caffeinated
    - Caribou's Caribou Blend Medium Caffeinated
    - Newman's Own (of blessed memory) Newman's Special Blend Fair Trade Organic Extra Bold Caffeinated
    - A "My K-Cup" reusable coffee filter so you can use your own coffee

    After we bought the Costco unit, we tried the hot cocoa mixes (again, tiny cups with foil lids), several other tea flavors, and of course, all the coffees. My husband had an IT guy from work fixing his computer here at our house, and he said the coffee was phenomenal, "as good as the best cup I ever had, which was in Paris!"

    Amazon seems to have a decent selection of Keurig Gourmet Single Cups, and I saw several brands of coffee (no tea or cocoa) at Target last week. Sometimes they're called "K-Cups," but if you do a search for Keurig coffee, you'll come up with quite a few. I have a feeling I'll probably order them straight from the company since it's the tea and cocoa I'm interested in. The coffee is easy enough to find anywhere.

    I realize you probably weren't looking for a coffee "solution," but I can't believe how cool this product is! I am so glad the orthodontist had it out for me to try! At least I know my exorbitant fees are going towards something I'll enjoy in his office.

    Oh, and he's got wireless internet, too.

    Dyanne

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    It may not be the best looking machine, but DH and I love the Bunn machines. We had one for about 10 years and just replaced it with this model.
    http://www.bunn.com/retail/products/nhb.html

    It stays plugged in all the time, so it makes the coffee within minutes and it's hot! Like the OP, I need/want my coffee as soon as I'm out of bed.

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    Here's what Cooks Illustrated has to say:
    Inexpensive Drip Coffee Makers 4/2007

    Does an Inexpensive model have to feel cheap?


    Since Mr. Coffee introduced the first affordable, automatic drip coffee maker in 1972, they have become staple appliances in American kitchens-24 million of them are sold each year. Although you can spend a few hundred dollars on high-end models, we were more interested in the under-$50 machines. Do they brew coffee reliably well? Are they easy to use? To find out, we rounded up eight popular models and headed to the test kitchen.

    HOW DOES THE COFFEE TASTE? Each of the machines made good (but not great) coffee that suffered somewhat because of low brewing temperature and slow brewing speed. To coax optimum flavor out of ground coffee, it should be brewed with water that is 195 to 200 degrees, and the brewing process for a full pot should take no longer than six minutes (lest overextraction—and the more bitter coffee it produces—occur). These inexpensive machines don't have the heating power to bring water to such high temperatures (only two machines, the Braun and Mr. Coffee, produced water hotter than 180 degrees), and they aren't designed to brew a full pot so quickly (the brew times ranged from 9:40 to 11:55).

    STAYING POWER: Once coffee was brewed, we tasted it every 15 minutes for an hour, and the results were disappointing: The coffee was noticeably worse after only 15 minutes and progressively worse at each increment. Since coffee suffers with continued heating, we recommend immediately pouring the brewed coffee into a thermal carafe (see box) to retain freshness.

    USER-FRIENDLY AT 6 A.M.? Since we didn't find much difference in coffee flavor, this category proved to be the most important. Testers were annoyed by machines with a small filling area, like the Proctor Silex model, which makes you pour the water into an opening just 1 1/2 inches wide (by comparison, the Black & Decker well is 4 1/2 inches wide at the pouring point). The accessibility and perceived solidity of the filter basket mechanism were also important, and the ratings for the Kenmore (flimsy feel) and Mr. Coffee (you have to manually push the hinged water-
    spout arm out of the way) machines suffered as a result. Testers also preferred coffee makers (Black & Decker, Braun, and DeLonghi) that offered easy one-handed access to the spent grounds.

    THE CARAFE: The Kenmore carafe did not easily nestle back into the machine after being removed for pouring. The Braun, by contrast, felt solid and ergonomic, and clicked back into its nest on the first try.

    SUMMING UP: Making coffee should be easy. The Black & Decker and Braun machines felt solid and were very user-friendly. They earned top marks from our testers.

    Recommended

    BLACK & DECKER SmartBrew 12-Cup Coffeemaker
    (model DCM2000)
    Price: $34.95 at Cooking.com
    Carafe Capacity: 64 ounces
    Brew Time (for full pot): 11:21
    Water Temperature: 175 degrees
    Comments: Testers loved how easy it was to pour water into the wide tank of this model. All controls were intuitive and "dummy-proof." Very easy to clean and very accurate pouring.

    BRAUN AromaDeluxe
    (KF 510)
    Price: $49.95 at Cooking.com
    Carafe Capacity: 48 ounces
    Brew Time: 10:26
    Water Temperature: 186 degrees
    Comments: Felt very solid and well made, and testers praised the carafe's grip and handling. Accessing the grounds was easy. While some testers downgraded this machine for its lack of a program mode, most admitted they'd never use it.

    MR. COFFEE 12-Cup
    Programmable (VBX23)
    Price: $29.99 at Target.com
    Carafe Capacity: 60 ounces
    Brew Time: 11:30
    Water Temperature: 186 degrees
    Comments: "Everything is easy and straightforward," said one tester. The only complaint was a swinging arm inside the machine, which a few testers thought was "just another thing that could break." "A very big carafe."
    and if you want to spend a little more:
    Drip Coffee Makers 9/2008

    Most models turn costly beans into mediocre coffee: too weak, too flat, or too bitter. What’s so hard about making a decent drip coffee maker?


    In this age of Starbucks, Americans have gotten much more sophisticated about the complexities of coffee flavor. Now when we make our coffee at home, that old Mr. Coffee on the counter—never all that great to begin with—increasingly doesn’t measure up. As we surveyed the latest models on store shelves, we wondered if manufacturers might have caught up with our coffee obsession and finally developed an automatic drip coffee maker that can produce a terrific brew.

    From previous tests, we knew that a thermal carafe would be essential; the usual hot plate under a glass carafe starts turning fresh coffee acrid in a matter of minutes. We found eight brands with thermal carafes and at least a 10-cup capacity at prices from $47 to nearly $300. Most were programmable, meaning you can fill them with coffee and water and set the time you want the pot to turn itself on. Two came with an attached burr-style coffee grinder. With hope—and more than 30 pounds of freshly roasted, house-blend coffee beans from Stumptown Coffee Roasters in
    Portland, Oregon—we set to work.
    Better Brew

    Brewing a full pot in each machine, we asked tasters to judge the coffees’ aroma, body, complexity of flavor, level of bitterness, and overall appeal. Our hopes for the new generation of coffee makers were quickly crushed. Most of those eight stainless steel machines made the same kind of mediocre coffee we’ve come to expect: bitter, weak, or one-dimensional.

    What was the problem? Aside from using fresh, high-quality coffee beans and good-tasting cold water, the two most important factors in making good coffee are the water temperature as it passes through the grounds and the length of time the grounds are exposed to the water. These factors determine which of the more than 1,000 volatile flavor and aroma compounds identified in roasted coffee beans make it into your cup and which get left behind (only a limited number of them—approximately 30—produce the best-tasting coffee). Studies have shown that the most
    flavorful, aromatic compounds are released by water between 195 and 205 degrees Fahrenheit, at a brew time of six minutes, for drip coffee makers. The ideal cup of coffee contains 18 to 22 percent suspended solids extracted from the ground coffee. Too fast a brew time and the extraction of solids will be less than 18 percent, and your coffee will be weak; too slow a brew time leads to overextraction (more than 22 percent suspended solids) and a bitter brew. If the coffee maker is too slow and the water is not sufficiently hot, you can even wind up with coffee that is both weak and bitter.

    We made more coffee, this time measuring the water temperature throughout the brew cycle. And here we made a key discovery: Most of these machines were too cool, spending most of the brewing cycle struggling to bring the water into the right temperature range. Many didn’t reach the correct temperature until the last minute or two of brewing—and then kept climbing, scorching the grounds as the last few cups dripped into the carafe.

    Next, we timed three pots in each coffee maker with a stopwatch and averaged the results. Once again, our lousy coffee could be explained: Most of the machines never reached that ideal time frame for water to pass through the coffee grounds, though two came much closer than the rest. The slowest machine took 18 minutes to make one pot of very bitter coffee. The fastest took just four minutes, and tasters found its coffee weak, thin, and flat.
    Tasters’ Choice

    How can manufacturers keep getting away with these crimes against good coffee? They know consumers can’t taste the coffee before they buy the machine; most choose a coffee maker based on looks and price. New models are dressed up to be enticing, with graceful carafes, backlit digital displays, and multiple features. Why can’t the flavor match up? “To sell their coffee makers competitively, these machines have to be made cheaply,” said Mané Alves, chair of the technical standards committee for the Specialty Coffee Association of America. “And the most expensive part of the coffee maker is the heating element.”

    In the end, only one coffee maker stood out in our tests as exceptional. The Technivorm Moccamaster (model KBT741), made in the Netherlands, consistently brewed smooth, full-flavored coffee that our tasters ranked highest. Tellingly, it was the only model to get close to the ideal six-minute brewing time, averaging 7 1/2 minutes to completely finish dripping, though the water was fully dispensed within six minutes. Unlike any of the other coffee makers, its internal heating element brought the brewing water to the correct temperature range within seconds and kept it there through the brewing cycle.

    It turns out that in contrast to most coffee maker heating elements, which are made of aluminum, the Technivorm’s heating element is made of far more expensive copper. In coffee makers, the heating element usually runs alongside a tube containing water. As the cool water drips down from the tank, it passes through the heated channel, then boils up to the top of the machine, and finally drips down onto the grounds. A copper heating element has higher thermal conductivity than aluminum, meaning it is more responsive and can reach a higher temperature more quickly.
    The Technivorm is also more powerful, operating at a higher electrical wattage than most coffee makers—with 1,400 watts compared to the average 900 watts of the rest of the lineup—making its brew time correspondingly more efficient.
    The $240 Question

    Its sophisticated internal workings aside, the rest of the Technivorm is simple, with a cone to hold the coffee and a nine-hole sprayer to disperse water evenly. A switch lets you stop the flow of water to pour a cup. There’s just one problem with the Technivorm—its price. Could we really justify spending $240 when we know that great coffee can be had through far cheaper methods? To make sure, we compared coffee made in the Technivorm to coffee from a French press, the method favored by many coffee connoisseurs.
    (We used the Bodum Chambord, which sells for $39.95.) To our surprise, while our tasters enjoyed the French press coffee’s rich aroma and flavor, the Technivorm coffee won the day with even better flavor—and with no need to go through the French press’s multiple steps of separately heating the water to 200 degrees, then pouring, stirring, waiting four minutes (according to manufacturer instructions), and pressing.

    The Technivorm’s price tag is high, but its consistently full-flavored, smooth brew—made with all the convenience of that old Mr. Coffee—will pay for itself when you start skipping a few trips to Starbucks.

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    Thanks, travelbug, for the CI info!

    Appreciate everyone's help as we replace our coffeemaker. Our tired ol' Mr. Coffee is so close to falling completely apart, it'll be good to have one that's trustworthy.
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