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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverFarm View Post
    Reported.
    What's reported? That person said I was a "waitress's nightmare." They were mean first. If anything, they should be reported, the meanie!

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    And here's another one. Let's hope she fades far, far, away.

    https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Springs1

    Love the name -encyclopedia dramatica!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbak View Post
    And here's another one. Let's hope she fades far, far, away.

    https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Springs1

    Love the name -encyclopedia dramatica!
    Why because I told the truth?

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    I tip at least 20%....usually more. I think everyone should work at least briefly as a server and in retail. I think waiting tables was one of the most stressful and difficult things I have ever done....it has been well over 25 years (since I was in college) and I still have nightmares about it!
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    This thread is hilarious - I feel that I am in the presence of an internet legend. Who knew that someone had a life so utterly devoid of meaning that they would sit 24/7 at a computer and wait for ANY mention of restaurant personnel. I assume there is some kind of emotional satisfaction, however twisted it might seem to us, in getting that kind of attention.

    I tip between 15% and 20% depending on various factors. I am more likely to tip 20% if the food itself was relatively inexpensive since penalizing the staff because the bill is lower when they had to work as hard seems unfair. Of course, nothing is written in stone, since an expensive restaurant often has staff that provide an incredible experience.

    I am confused at Dim Sum places since there isn't generally "service" in the same way a restaurant is.

    When I ate a Soup Plantation, I would leave at least a dollar for the person who cleared the table - That is going back about a decade so not adjusted for inflation. In a group, each of us would leave that amount.

    I generally don't penalize a wait person unless they are just egregiously and consciously terrible and I can't think of when that has happened in the past few years. I tend to believe that wait people are just people so I try to treat them in a manner that I would want to be treated.

    Sometimes a wait person is slammed and I think it's the fault of the owners who are deliberately understaffing because I can see how impossible it would be for one person to take care of the number of tables.

    Regarding owners, I can't remember actually being served by an owner except at one place I would frequent that was tiny and run by the husband and wife. I was waited on often by his wife and I always left a standard tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springs1 View Post
    Not the same thing and you know it.
    Actually, it's exactly the same.

    Here's an example - I read an article about quilting which has a small photo illustrating exactly the stippling technique my friends and I have been discussing lately. I decide to share it on facebook so they can all see it, but when I do, the thumbnail shows two people snorkeling. What the heck? That photo wasn't even on the page the article was on! There are no other options for thumbnails.

    So the computer did not give me what I asked it for. I cannot fix it, but I can certainly identify what's wrong and that the computer program is somehow at fault.

    Now on the other hand, if I'm at a restaurant and I ask for eggs benedict and they bring it out to me with a bechamel instead of a hollandaise, not only can I identify there's a problem, but were I in my own kitchen, I could fix it myself. I make a fantastic hollandaise. Could you? Of course you're going to say that the wait person's job is not to make the sauce, but to make sure it's the right one before it's brought out to you. Do you think he/she should be able to tell the difference just by looking at it? It's possible, I suppose; the hollandaise should be a little yellower. Or did you want the wait person to taste it first just to be sure?
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    [e are no other options for thumbnails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccooney View Post
    Actually, it's exactly the same.
    No it's not, because anybody can bring out food without a high school diploma even, but a computer programmer has to have college years before she or he can become one. You sound not very intelligent.

    Even a 6yr old can tell the difference between a chicken sandwich and ribs for example. A 6yr old can't write computer code(not counting those child prodigys of course that may have the rare ability to have a very high IQ of course). I am talking about your average child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccooney View Post
    Do you think he/she should be able to tell the difference just by looking at it? It's possible, I suppose; the hollandaise should be a little yellower. Or did you want the wait person to taste it first just to be sure?
    Of course if it's a different color. You know for example what honey mustard looks like compared to ranch. On the other hand, bleu cheese is kind of hard to compare to ranch that the server may not know unless she or he touched it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springs1 View Post
    Of course if it's a different color. You know for example what honey mustard looks like compared to ranch. On the other hand, bleu cheese is kind of hard to compare to ranch that the server may not know unless she or he touched it.
    Yah, well blue cheese versus ranch/bechamel versus hollandaise - I have that problem all the time. Guess that's what happens since I'm not very intelligent.
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    Oh, and by the way, I do have "college years." Many of them. And experience at waitressing to boot.
    Exactly the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbak View Post
    And here's another one. Let's hope she fades far, far, away.

    https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Springs1

    Love the name -encyclopedia dramatica!
    LOL! Hey, back in my working days I worked in both a Subway and a pizza shop. Perhaps that makes me **more** qualified to talk about tipping servers than someone with a background in the donut industry. I would get dollar tips from the little old ladies who bought pizza for their grandkids. It was only once in a blue moon, because it was a take-away place, no reason for tips. But I always felt uncomfortable when one of them would hand me a dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccooney View Post
    Oh, and by the way, I do have "college years." Many of them. And experience at waitressing to boot.
    Exactly the same.
    NO, in that you don't need *ANY* college years to figure out mac n' cheese isn't a baked potato, but yet a stupid, dumb waiter that TOOK MY ORDER brought me mac n' cheese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springs1 View Post
    NO, in that you don't need *ANY* college years to figure out mac n' cheese isn't a baked potato, but yet a stupid, dumb waiter that TOOK MY ORDER brought me mac n' cheese.
    But you might need experience to realize that if maybe a waiter/waitress has worked the 3rd double shift in a row, or just pulled an all-nighter studying, or had a sick child that kept them up all night, or maybe had a family member just dxed with a devastating illness so that maybe they could take the mac and cheese to table #16 instead of table #17, because well....$h!t happens and sometimes it happens not because someone is "stupid and dumb" but because their mind is FULL. It doesn't mean they don't "CARE" about you or are lazy or stupid. It *might* mean that even though you are their customer and they are waiting on you, that their life doesn't revolve around YOU.

    However, I wouldn't expect you to understand any of that, because that takes empathy and clearly, your world revolves around you and you only. Anyone who had the time to build an "internet legend" of complaining, or as every waitstaff's "worst nightmare", clearly does not have to tend to "real life."

    I'm so glad I have other things in my life to get me riled up about than a waitress making a mistake, because I think bitching about waitstaff all the time would make me feel shallow, dumb, and basically worthless. Instead, I'll worry about grant funding issues, program development, and meaningful data analysis to answer to deal with actual educational research/questions.

    OK, I'll stop feeding the troll.
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    First of all, I can't believe our regulars have been feeding into Springs1, the way you have.

    Secondly, who says DUHH, now? Isn't that just a wee bit passe`?

    And Lastly. we do a straight 20%. We had a waitress tonight, that 3 hours later, I am still wondering about. asked for salads before meal. She obliged and brought the meal 2 minutes later. Thank You, ma'am. We asked for EXTRA butter and jelly for biscuits, (LATE GETTING THERE) it was a messed up meal... and these were only a FEW of the problems.Minor annoyances, I understand,but this girl really acted out of it. And she still got her 20%.

    We do the credit card for the restaurant and leave cash on the table for the waitress because we do not know how much they are penalized when the tip is added to the charge.

    The last time this subject came up, I was literally yelled at for saying that when the 18% gratuity is added for groups, that our server loses because we would have normally tipped 20%. I was told by members of this board that I should have left the 2% on the table for the server. I didn't respond,but thought...Really,for the entire group? I find it interesting that it is not an issue, now.

    But Springs 1 .....REALLY?

    OH, and this https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Springs1 WAS hilarious! I mean I laughed out loud at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmarie View Post
    We asked for butter and jelly for biscuits, (never came) asked for ketchup with burger, (TWICE)... and these were only a FEW of the problems.Minor annoyances, I understand,but this girl really acted out of it. And she still got her 20%.
    THAT is what CAUSES LAZY, UNCARING IDIOTS! YOU ARE PAYING THEM TO MESS UP ON PURPOSE TO BE LAZY AND NOT TRY THEIR BEST, WHY?

    Have you ever heard of positive and negative reinforcement? It works a lot of times. You reward when they do a good job and you punish(leave a bad tip or no tip) for when they do a bad job. You never took psychology have you?

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    Lady you are going to give yourself a heart attack one of these days if you get yourself so worked up over someone you don't care about. If you don't feel like tipping then don't. If I feel like tipping I will.

    While not in restaurants I work a second job seasonally where it is customary to receive tips at the end of the season. I put my heart and soul into the job, often risking my life and/ or serious injury either getting there or during work for which I'm paid not much more than minimum wage. Just yesterday i was in a situation that sent me sliding down a snow slope towards a tree in order to protect the child I was working with. I spend off time writing emails to families and planning upcoming days. I appreciate tips when I get them. I don't expect them. But, on the other hand, I've had parents aka customers step in to help me on a bad day. Like the day I was hit by a random person. Or when another customer is hurt and I need to tend to them.

    You see, caring goes two ways. And people talk. If you treat servers in your town the way I suspect you do then you are likely not only a legend on the internet but in the restaurant circles in your town.

    Chill out, life is too good to waste on the small stuff. And this is most certainly the small stuff.


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    No, but springs1, I will share these thoughts with you before bowing out.

    1. The girl tonight acted like she was out of it. (Like she had really had a bad day,or might even be ill.) We were annoyed, but hid it, because we felt badly for her. We were in good company and made the best of a bad situation, as I think she already felt bad enough.

    2. I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT A TROLL WAS....I NOW KNOW.

    3.(I'll bite) THE GOP IS THE GRAND OLD PARTY= REPUBLICAN PARTY.

    4. She annoyed me, but you literally make me sick.

    5. You are about 14 years old. I know that you are just playing. This is a very sick game for you. GROW UP.

    Goodnight. You really should be in bed by now..... school comes early tomorrow. DUHHH
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    Hey Springs!

    How about a buffet restaurant? Then you don't have to worry about the servers and you can get things exactly the way you like them!

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    And, just to add, I will not receive a tip for putting myself in harm's way yesterday as I was filling in for someone else who would receive any end I'd season tips. Doesn't matter. I still cared for the customer I was protecting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by angelina View Post
    hey springs!

    How about a buffet restaurant? Then you don't have to worry about the servers and you can get things exactly the way you like them!

    **********snort**********
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmarie View Post
    5. You are about 14 years old. I know that you are just playing. This is a very sick game for you. GROW UP.
    No, I am SERIOUSLY 35yrs old, for REAL! Born in 1977. I remember the days of (barely, but I remember) the show "The Electric Company", does that tell you I REALLY AM 35yrs old, huh? Back in the days when Mister Rogers had the trolly number at the end. When Mr. Cooper died on Sesame Street, it was a huge ordeal. NOW do you believe me?

    school comes early tomorrow. DUHHH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelina View Post
    Hey Springs!

    How about a buffet restaurant? Then you don't have to worry about the servers and you can get things exactly the way you like them!
    I don't want to always eat at those. You end up eating too much at times at those things. There's still service at most with initial first drinks, refills, and some with the check as well. Cici's pizza I would say is one of the ones that has zero service. Most have "SOME" service though. I don't really count them taking dishes at buffets, because I sit at large enough tables where I stack my dishes and don't really care if anyone takes them or not. I could care less if they take them or leave them. It doesn't bother me any. That's also MY opinion on it. Some people it may bother them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robyn1007 View Post
    If you treat servers in your town the way I suspect you do
    HOW do you expect me to? I am VERY NICE, actually *NICER* than they are to me. I still tell them "thank you" when they forgot something, but NO SORRY 95% of the times for their mistakes. FOR REAL and I am not mean 99.9% of the times there are mistakes. The .1% is when you could easily tell the plate has like 4-5 mistakes like they didn't even LOOK at my food, I have lost my cool a couple of times because it shows how LITTLE they "CARE" about what they are giving you. Like if the food had bugs all on top of it, they wouldn't care, they'd still give it to you, because they are so self-centered about caring JUST about their tip and acting like we are money bags instead of HUMAN BEINGS with REAL FEELINGS.

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    3 things

    1) my guess is that you waited til you were 25 because no one wanted to have sex with a mean spirited troll.

    2) my second guess I'd bet you get served wrong on purpose. I would *love* to see what else is in your food that you don't know about

    3) my homemade food is better than many restaurants, as told to me by multiple professionals. So suck it Trebek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Springs1 View Post
    We eat out because we rarely cook and I don't even know how to cook most things, even when I have tried, it came out horribly. I personally find restaurant food *TASTES* better in my personal opinion than ANYBODY'S home cooked food.
    My husband would beg to differ... but then, I am a chef ;D

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    Spring1,what is with this " DUHHH. "

    Did you get lost in a time warp?
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    If you treat the servers the way you have treated us, as strangers, then you are, in fact, not being nice. Your repeated use of "DUH" and all caps, bold, underline and large fonts is childish and uncalled for. One can have an intelligent, respectful discussion regarding tipping and restaurant service without the attitude and sweeping stereotypes. You are obviously only looking to scream and yell and not attempt to determine why you have the issues you do in restaurants.


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