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    This is good news - Sodas to be removed from schools

    Soda Distributors to End Most School Sales By SAMANTHA GROSS, Associated Press Writer


    The nation's largest beverage distributors have agreed to halt nearly all sales of sodas to public schools — a step that will remove the sugary, caloric drinks from vending machines and cafeterias around the country.

    The agreement was announced Wednesday by the William J. Clinton Foundation and will also likely apply to many private and parochial schools.

    "This is a bold step forward in the struggle to help 35 million young people lead healthier lives," former President Clinton said at a news conference. "This one policy can add years and years and years to the lives of a very large number of young people."

    Under the agreement, the companies also have agreed to sell only water, unsweetened juice and low-fat milks to elementary and middle schools. Diet sodas would be sold only to high schools.

    "I don't think anyone should underestimate the influence this agreement will have," Susan Neely, president and CEO of the American Beverage Association, which has signed onto the deal, said earlier Wednesday. "I think other people are going to want to follow this agreement because it just makes sense."

    The agreement should reach an estimated 87 percent of the public and private school drink market, Neely said. Industry giants Cadbury Schweppes PLC, Coca-Cola Co. and PepsiCo Inc. and the ABA have signed on. Officials said they hope companies representing the other 13 percent of the market would follow suit.

    The Alliance for a Healthier Generation, a collaboration between Clinton's foundation and the American Heart Association, helped broker the deal.

    "The soft drink industry has decided that it won't wait to be pushed," said Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, the co-chair of the alliance. "It jumped in. ... It may be the soft drink industry, but they made a very hard decision."

    The move follows a mounting wave of regulation by school boards and legislators alarmed by reports of rising childhood obesity. Soda has been a particular target of those fighting obesity because of its caloric content and popularity among children.

    Still, the deal imposes stricter drink regulations than are currently in place for nearly 35 million public school students.

    "This is really the beginning of a major effort to modify childhood obesity at the level of the school systems," said Robert H. Eckel, the president of the Heart Association, adding that the alliance would also be working to put healthier foods in schools.

    John Sicher, editor and publisher of Beverage Digest, which compiles extensive data on the beverage industry, said the agreement would have no impact on the $63 billion beverage industry's bottom line.

    "The sale of sugar-carbonated sodas in schools is a tiny, tiny part of their overall volume," said Sicher. "Financially, on the big companies, it will have virtually no impact."

    He applauded the move, however, saying "The impact is more in terms of responsibility and accountability to the consumer."

    Under the agreement, high schools will still be able to sell low-calorie drinks that contain less than 10 calories per serving, as well as drinks that are considered nutritious, such as juice, sports drinks and low-fat milk. The "nutritious" drinks will be limited to 12-ounce servings, Neely said.

    Elementary schools will sell 8-ounce servings of the "nutritious" drinks, and middle school kids will get 10-ounce-size drinks.

    Whole milk will no longer be offered to any schools, Neely said.

    School sales of sports drinks, diet sodas and bottled water have been on the rise in recent years, while sugary soft drink purchases by students have been falling, according to an ABA report released in December. But regular soda, averaging 150 calories a can, is still the most popular drink, accounting for 45 percent of drinks sold in schools in 2005, according to the report.

    Diana Garza, a spokeswoman for the Atlanta-based Coca-Cola Co., said in a telephone interview that "these voluntary guidelines escalate ... the shift to lower calorie, more nutritious beverages."

    A man who answered the phone at Cadbury Schweppes' London headquarters said no one was available for comment. A call to PepsiCo Inc. was not immediately returned.

    The new rules will apply to beverages sold on school grounds during the regular school day and at after-school activities such as band and choir practice, said Jay Carson, a spokesman for ClintonBut sales at events such as school plays, band concerts and sporting events, where a significant portion of the audience are adults, won't be affected, he said.

    The deal will be most easily enforced at vending machines, where students buy most of their drinks, Neely said.

    How quickly the changes take hold will depend in part on individual school districts' willingness to alter existing contracts, The Alliance for a Healthier Generation said in a release. The companies will work to implement the changes at 75 percent of the nation's public schools before the 2008-2009 school year, and at all public schools a year later.

    Dozens of states have considered legislation on school nutrition this year, but about 32 states still have no legislative or regulatory policy regulating the sale of drinks in schools, according to the American Heart Association.

    Lawmakers in Connecticut voted last week to prohibit schools from selling regular and diet soda as well as electrolyte replacement drinks such as Gatorade.

    The agreement follows an August decision by the ABA to adopt a policy limiting soft drinks in high schools to no more than 50 percent of the selections in vending machines. Unlike the agreement announced Wednesday, that recommendation was not binding.

    Most elementary schools are already soda-free.
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    Soda machines were removed from our local school last year. And while I agree that sodas are vile and nasty I do have a bit of a problem with schools deciding what my child can and cannot drink...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneezles
    Soda machines were removed from our local school last year. And while I agree that sodas are vile and nasty I do have a bit of a problem with schools deciding what my child can and cannot drink...
    I view it as a school deciding what it will offer kids, not making absolute decisions- presumably this policy doesn't prevent kids from bringing a can of soda from home, does it? (I would hope not.)

    I also noticed that they'll still be selling diet sodas, which is still kind of a problem in that it's consumption of all types of nutrition-free drinks that displace more healthful beverages like water, juice, and milk- it's not just caloric sodas that are the problem. But it's a step in the right direction, IMO.

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    Now if we could only get the parents to remove it from their homes. I remember watching some show like 20/20 three or four years ago and the mother was complaining that her son drank 2 two-liter bottles of Mountain Dew a day. I have an idea, be a parent don't buy the stuff for him and tell him no when he asks for it.

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    What amuses me about this debate is that I attended public school in the Atlanta area and having vending machines of any kind was a completely foreign idea. We had a choice of milk, chocolate milk, or lemonade at lunch, and water fountains during the day. No one seemed to believe they were leading deprived lives, and there was no guff about the schools "telling children what they could drink." I am just in wonder about how we got to this point, that having a soft drink or sports drink or snack food any time, any where, got to be seen as a god-given right -- not only for adults, but for children.

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    The schools can still sell it to the students at the end of the day...The mess they make when they sneak it on the bus and then try to hide it as they drink it. :mad:

    Personally, I do wish if they were going to take it out, that the only time it would be offered would be at sporting events...but it is a source of revenue, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gertdog
    I view it as a school deciding what it will offer kids, not making absolute decisions- presumably this policy doesn't prevent kids from bringing a can of soda from home, does it? (I would hope not.)

    I also noticed that they'll still be selling diet sodas, which is still kind of a problem in that it's consumption of all types of nutrition-free drinks that displace more healthful beverages like water, juice, and milk- it's not just caloric sodas that are the problem. But it's a step in the right direction, IMO.
    Actually it does not allow the consumption of sodas during the school day and I think still allowing diet sodas is just weird!

    When I was in high school, oh so very long ago, the only soda machine was in the senior lounge and it use to be like trying to get an adult to buy you beer, bribing a senior to get you a soda!

    And the schools make money of the machines which is why they were installed to begin with and after awhile just became part of the landscape so stopping them would create some sort of uproar, nobody ever said it was a "god-given right"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneezles
    Actually it does not allow the consumption of sodas during the school day and I think still allowing diet sodas is just weird!
    Am I missing that in the article hollysmom posted or was it in other coverage? I can't find it. I will admit to having an addled brain today so maybe I'm just not seeing it. I agree, though- the diet soda thing is weird. Apparently they're thinking about caloric intake only and not overall nutrition.

    We didn't have soda machines at my high school either, although there were some other questionable practices... you could buy lunch from the cafeteria with its standard menu of yuck, or from the "snack bar" which featured french fries, deep-fried pizza pockets, corn dogs, pretzels, ice cream sandwiches and chocolate chip cookies. Nutrition was nowhere to be found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneezles
    Actually it does not allow the consumption of sodas during the school day...
    Where does it say that? I missed that part...
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    Only the high schools here have pop. The middle schools have vending machines with pop, gatorade, and juices, but they are turned off during school hours. They are only on for after school and weekend sports. I have no problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gertdog
    Am I missing that in the article hollysmom posted or was it in other coverage?
    I'm just referring to our local school but they don't sell any kind of soda during school hours but do sell it a sporting events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneezles
    I'm just referring to our local school but they don't sell any kind of soda during school hours but do sell it a sporting events.
    Thanks for clarifying! I kept looking at the article thinking "where does it say that?" So how do they enforce this at school- do they confiscate soda in the cafeteria?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gertdog
    Thanks for clarifying! I kept looking at the article thinking "where does it say that?" So how do they enforce this at school- do they confiscate soda in the cafeteria?

    It's a very small school (less than 200 students for 13 grades, K-12) and I don't recall anyone objecting to it other than students. Even when I had a child there last year I was a bit annoyed at the decision but didn't fight it since I think my DS#3 drinks too much of it anyway.
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    Our cafeteria dragon absolutely WILL confiscate a coke in the cafeteria! Even from the teachers (who of course should know better, but sometimes we just NEED a coke, you know?)
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    DH and I were talking about this tonight, I was really kind of amazed at his exuberance on this new ruling. We never had vending machines (graduated in '92) nor were we allowed to be sipping ANYTHING in class. This was a public school. He said (Graduated 97) they could bring whatever they wanted into any class at anytime... also a public school but different city/town. I was really surprised! Kids could just be sipping a Coke or something in class?!? Seems ridiculous. I'm all for maybe water but soda? Not a must sip anytime thing.

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    It's beyond me why they are allowing diet soda??!!??
    Seems to me that kids who might not ever use artificial sweeteners otherwise will now be doing so only to get a soda fix... Why not just cut out ALL soda...:mad:

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    I'm guessing that concessions were made to allow the diet drinks so the companies wouldn't pull their machines (read: "money") from the schools entirely. From what I understand...the reason the machines are there in the first place is b/c the schools have a contract with Coke (or whomever) to exclusively carry their products in exchance for monies.

    I've heard of some schools that buy their own vending machines on Ebay, stock them with healthy(ish) snacks and then get to keep ALL the profit.
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    Unfortunately vending machines have become a very lucrative way for schools to make money. IMHO it is pretty pathetic that this is what our schools need to do to raise money.

    Diet soda is not much better than the regular in the sense that the artificial sweeteners create the same cravings for more sugar/carbs that regular, sugary soda does. Plus caffiene is also an issue. Those who say caffiene doesn't affect the kids ability to learn and pay attention has obviously never taught in a room with kids who don't eat well. There is a huge difference in students who eat balanced meals vs. those who don't. I don't think it's wrong for schools to say that kids can't have soda/junk all day long.

    Wasn't it just a while back when everyone was upset that schools weren't doing more to help kids eat better?? People were all bent out of shape at what kids were able to buy in cafeterias and in vending machinges---now the soda companies and schools are making healthful changes and someone is upset that schools are dictating what can and cannot be eaten or drunk?? Teachers have to teach our kids; if this is what it takes for my children (who get balanced meals) to be in a classroom with students who are better fed, better behaved because they have eaten decently and can concentrate in school. That's fine by me. I realize diet is not the sole contributing factor in children with problems but it is a factor schools can help solve fairly easily.

    It isn't a "right" to have vending machines in schools. I believe we were able to educate children for many years before filling vending machines with junk and selling it to our kids.

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    Has it ever been proved that artificial sweeteners create cravings for sweetness? Seems to be one of those rumors floating around... I personally don't have an issue with diet soda being available in schools for older students. They can purchase them outside of school just as easily and better that they have a product with no calories than something sugary!

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    Wasn't it just a while back when everyone was upset that schools weren't doing more to help kids eat better?? People were all bent out of shape at what kids were able to buy in cafeterias and in vending machinges---now the soda companies and schools are making healthful changes and someone is upset that schools are dictating what can and cannot be eaten or drunk?? Teachers have to teach our kids; if this is what it takes for my children (who get balanced meals) to be in a classroom with students who are better fed, better behaved because they have eaten decently and can concentrate in school. That's fine by me. I realize diet is not the sole contributing factor in children with problems but it is a factor schools can help solve fairly easily.
    Jamie Oliver (the British celebrity chef) has become a real crusader for healthier meals in schools there (and I think he's made an impact). He filmed a series about this for British television which is airing on TLC this month at 7 pm on Mondays - the first episode was this past Monday. He started out at one pilot school, and he worked with the lunch ladies for a couple of days first to get a sense of their work flow, etc. Then he started making meals. The really hard part was the budget limit he had - 65 pence per child per day (which I think is about $1.50) - he was making curries, homemade pizzas, pot pies, and other things, but he was still going over the budget every time. His food looked awesome but sadly a lot of the kids were choosing the processed chicken, frozen pizza, and fries. I'm sure our school cafeterias are about the same - I believe he's trying to bring his mission here now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatcook
    Has it ever been proved that artificial sweeteners create cravings for sweetness? Seems to be one of those rumors floating around... I personally don't have an issue with diet soda being available in schools for older students. They can purchase them outside of school just as easily and better that they have a product with no calories than something sugary!
    Well one person does not a study make but I've been off diet soda since January and I honestly no longer crave sweets and I'm convinced it's helped me to lose about 25lb since the new year
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